Snow time soon...

Snow time soon...

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RobbyJ

1,576 posts

223 months

Monday 12th December 2022
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Here's the not good in the snow 'milk float' valiantly rescuing a soft roader Kia this morning.

Hans_Gruber

275 posts

172 months

Monday 12th December 2022
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RobbyJ said:


Here's the not good in the snow 'milk float' valiantly rescuing a soft roader Kia this morning.
smile

Found my Model Y dual motor coped really well in the snow yesterday. I guess the 4WD and heavy weight from the motors, located near to the wheels, helps.

This bodes well for a skiing trip to Chamonix booked for February, hopefully I can avoid putting on snow chains!

NDA

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21,654 posts

226 months

Monday 12th December 2022
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Hans_Gruber said:
Found my Model Y dual motor coped really well in the snow yesterday. I guess the 4WD and heavy weight from the motors, located near to the wheels, helps.
Interesting, thanks....

RobbyJ

1,576 posts

223 months

Monday 12th December 2022
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Hans_Gruber said:
smile

Found my Model Y dual motor coped really well in the snow yesterday. I guess the 4WD and heavy weight from the motors, located near to the wheels, helps.

This bodes well for a skiing trip to Chamonix booked for February, hopefully I can avoid putting on snow chains!
For the record I do have winter tyres though. Although the rears need replacing badly!

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 12th December 2022
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RobbyJ said:


Here's the not good in the snow 'milk float' valiantly rescuing a soft roader Kia this morning.
Hope you remembered to put a few dozen yogurts in the boot for extra weight and maybe some Sunblest thick sliced to throw under the rear tyres when it breaks traction. smile

Skyman

1,284 posts

225 months

Tuesday 13th December 2022
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wormus said:
RobbyJ said:


Here's the not good in the snow 'milk float' valiantly rescuing a soft roader Kia this morning.
Hope you remembered to put a few dozen yogurts in the boot for extra weight and maybe some Sunblest thick sliced to throw under the rear tyres when it breaks traction. smile
Mate, a word to the wise. The more you post, the more you sound like a complete prat. Just back off. Your evangelistic anti-EV monologue is so yesterday.

AstonZagato

12,725 posts

211 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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Skyman said:
wormus said:
RobbyJ said:


Here's the not good in the snow 'milk float' valiantly rescuing a soft roader Kia this morning.
Hope you remembered to put a few dozen yogurts in the boot for extra weight and maybe some Sunblest thick sliced to throw under the rear tyres when it breaks traction. smile
Mate, a word to the wise. The more you post, the more you sound like a complete prat. Just back off. Your evangelistic anti-EV monologue is so yesterday.
The thing I find amusing is his ‘milk float’ jibe. He ignores the myriad of things for which one could legitimately criticise Tesla (value for money, parts availability, parts pricing, customer service, build quality, aesthetics, interior ergonomics, servicing via an app, software glitches, FSD/EAP, known failure points, corporate governance, etc.). Instead, he chooses a pejorative epithet based on the driving experience/ performance (where the cars genuinely shine). It really just makes him look like a hard-of-thinking, know-nothing dullard.

mikeiow

5,403 posts

131 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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AstonZagato said:
Skyman said:
wormus said:
RobbyJ said:


Here's the not good in the snow 'milk float' valiantly rescuing a soft roader Kia this morning.
Hope you remembered to put a few dozen yogurts in the boot for extra weight and maybe some Sunblest thick sliced to throw under the rear tyres when it breaks traction. smile
Mate, a word to the wise. The more you post, the more you sound like a complete prat. Just back off. Your evangelistic anti-EV monologue is so yesterday.
The thing I find amusing is his ‘milk float’ jibe. He ignores the myriad of things for which one could legitimately criticise Tesla (value for money, parts availability, parts pricing, customer service, build quality, aesthetics, interior ergonomics, servicing via an app, software glitches, FSD/EAP, known failure points, corporate governance, etc.). Instead, he chooses a pejorative epithet based on the driving experience/ performance (where the cars genuinely shine). It really just makes him look like a hard-of-thinking, know-nothing dullard.
Yup, I only popped in here ‘cos I remembered my winter wheels weren’t on our Volvo & Les Arcs beckons after Christmas….too cold to bother swapping myself, so off to Costco today for their bargain wheel swapping skills & a jacket spud whilst waiting…

….& I find utter garbage from a child talking bks to try to denigrate Teslas: WTF? Why? Tell us where Elon touched you, wormy!

Anyway, our other car is a Kona EV which manages fairly well with light snowy conditions, but no special traction skills to speak off….mind you, at our lucky cheap rate 5p/kW off-peak tariff, it has cost a pittance in the 40k miles done so far, so still fills 80% of our driving needs.

Still safer in the winter-shoed Volvo this time of year, of course, but I have to admit to hating stops at petrol stations!

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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Skyman said:
wormus said:
RobbyJ said:


Here's the not good in the snow 'milk float' valiantly rescuing a soft roader Kia this morning.
Hope you remembered to put a few dozen yogurts in the boot for extra weight and maybe some Sunblest thick sliced to throw under the rear tyres when it breaks traction. smile
Mate, a word to the wise. The more you post, the more you sound like a complete prat. Just back off. Your evangelistic anti-EV monologue is so yesterday.
I’m not the one getting annoyed…..Mate.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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AstonZagato said:
The thing I find amusing is his ‘milk float’ jibe. He ignores the myriad of things for which one could legitimately criticise Tesla (value for money, parts availability, parts pricing, customer service, build quality, aesthetics, interior ergonomics, servicing via an app, software glitches, FSD/EAP, known failure points, corporate governance, etc.). Instead, he chooses a pejorative epithet based on the driving experience/ performance (where the cars genuinely shine). It really just makes him look like a hard-of-thinking, know-nothing dullard.
What I find interesting is you and others here are so insecure about your choice to buy a battery-powered car, you cannot laugh off a silly joke about milk floats. Instead you turn to the last defence of somebody with no retort - personal insults.



Maracus

4,272 posts

169 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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wormus said:
AstonZagato said:
The thing I find amusing is his ‘milk float’ jibe. He ignores the myriad of things for which one could legitimately criticise Tesla (value for money, parts availability, parts pricing, customer service, build quality, aesthetics, interior ergonomics, servicing via an app, software glitches, FSD/EAP, known failure points, corporate governance, etc.). Instead, he chooses a pejorative epithet based on the driving experience/ performance (where the cars genuinely shine). It really just makes him look like a hard-of-thinking, know-nothing dullard.
What I find interesting is you and others here are so insecure about your choice to buy a battery-powered car, you cannot laugh off a silly joke about milk floats. Instead you turn to the last defence of somebody with no retort - personal insults.
The irony

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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Maracus said:
wormus said:
AstonZagato said:
The thing I find amusing is his ‘milk float’ jibe. He ignores the myriad of things for which one could legitimately criticise Tesla (value for money, parts availability, parts pricing, customer service, build quality, aesthetics, interior ergonomics, servicing via an app, software glitches, FSD/EAP, known failure points, corporate governance, etc.). Instead, he chooses a pejorative epithet based on the driving experience/ performance (where the cars genuinely shine). It really just makes him look like a hard-of-thinking, know-nothing dullard.
What I find interesting is you and others here are so insecure about your choice to buy a battery-powered car, you cannot laugh off a silly joke about milk floats. Instead you turn to the last defence of somebody with no retort - personal insults.
The irony
Indeed. That vegans are delivering the nation’s dairy produce. Explains the anger I guess, and nobody likes these dark, early mornings.

lizardbrain

2,042 posts

38 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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It’s interesting how quickly these views seem stale and bitter.

this thread would have been a troll fest as little as a year ago

AstonZagato

12,725 posts

211 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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wormus said:
AstonZagato said:
The thing I find amusing is his ‘milk float’ jibe. He ignores the myriad of things for which one could legitimately criticise Tesla (value for money, parts availability, parts pricing, customer service, build quality, aesthetics, interior ergonomics, servicing via an app, software glitches, FSD/EAP, known failure points, corporate governance, etc.). Instead, he chooses a pejorative epithet based on the driving experience/ performance (where the cars genuinely shine). It really just makes him look like a hard-of-thinking, know-nothing dullard.
What I find interesting is you and others here are so insecure about your choice to buy a battery-powered car, you cannot laugh off a silly joke about milk floats. Instead you turn to the last defence of somebody with no retort - personal insults.
Not insecure. Just amused.

Calling a Tesla a 'milk float' is like someone calling your Monaro a "slow diesel tractor" - it bears no relation to any reality and would make the person look a moron. You would not be offended as it totally misses the intended target and merely backfires on the person trying to score points. You would write the chap off as an ignoramus. There would be no point in debating with someone whose knowledge was so lacking.

Now if someone criticised the Monaro for using pushrod technology when OHC and DOHC have long superseded it for most performance applications, then it might be worth debating with the person on the benefits of OHV engines, such as more compact packaging and simpler timing gear (and the successful; performance engines that use pushrods).

I'm afraid that you mark yourself out in the first category - you simply have used the most inaccurate and ineffectual possible jibe. Furthermore, you are seemingly too dense to move, even when given the opportunity. As I said, there are a plethora of reasons why Teslas are probably poor value for money and that there are better made cars are available from better run companies. I would agree with most of those criticisms.

But you do you and continue down the "milk float" blind alley that is so amusingly idiotic to anyone who has the first understanding of reality.

Skyman

1,284 posts

225 months

Wednesday 14th December 2022
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wormus said:
Skyman said:
wormus said:
RobbyJ said:


Here's the not good in the snow 'milk float' valiantly rescuing a soft roader Kia this morning.
Hope you remembered to put a few dozen yogurts in the boot for extra weight and maybe some Sunblest thick sliced to throw under the rear tyres when it breaks traction. smile
Mate, a word to the wise. The more you post, the more you sound like a complete prat. Just back off. Your evangelistic anti-EV monologue is so yesterday.
I’m not the one getting annoyed…..Mate.
Annoyed , no. Just frustrated at obdurate stupidity. Surely you are better informed? You are an intelligent bloke, right?

Pooh

3,692 posts

254 months

Saturday 17th December 2022
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I did a approximately 100 mile round trip yesterday on country roads up to St Fillans in Perthshire, the snow depth varied between about 3 and 8 inches and it was sub zero the whole time. The car coped very well on a set of Pirelli all season tyres and I had no problem getting where I wanted do go including up and down some pretty steep hills.
Efficiency wasn't great due to the temperature and plowing through the snow but I didn't have any range anxiety.

NDA

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21,654 posts

226 months

Saturday 17th December 2022
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Pooh said:
I did a approximately 100 mile round trip yesterday on country roads up to St Fillans in Perthshire, the snow depth varied between about 3 and 8 inches and it was sub zero the whole time. The car coped very well on a set of Pirelli all season tyres and I had no problem getting where I wanted do go including up and down some pretty steep hills.
Efficiency wasn't great due to the temperature and plowing through the snow but I didn't have any range anxiety.
Nicesmile

Thanks for the info.

Pooh

3,692 posts

254 months

Saturday 17th December 2022
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NDA said:
Pooh said:
I did a approximately 100 mile round trip yesterday on country roads up to St Fillans in Perthshire, the snow depth varied between about 3 and 8 inches and it was sub zero the whole time. The car coped very well on a set of Pirelli all season tyres and I had no problem getting where I wanted do go including up and down some pretty steep hills.
Efficiency wasn't great due to the temperature and plowing through the snow but I didn't have any range anxiety.
Nicesmile

Thanks for the info.
Thanks, smile I have had it for 3 months and 7500 miles and I am delighted with it.

NDA

Original Poster:

21,654 posts

226 months

Saturday 17th December 2022
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Pooh said:
Thanks, smile I have had it for 3 months and 7500 miles and I am delighted with it.
Good to hear... I am nearly 30,000 trouble free miles into mine (also red).

Hopefully I won't see any serious snow this year, but I was curious to know how Tesla 3's perform. Seems from everything I've read that they do pretty well.

foggy

1,163 posts

283 months

Saturday 17th December 2022
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Teslas are rubbish in the snow, until you find dynotest mode evildrivingbanditbiggrin