Tesla Actual Real World Performance

[dontdobends]

stef1808 said:

Interesting the speed didn’t blow you away 0-60. When I first test drove the m3p I had never felt instant acceleration like that before and had to have one. Lacking top end keeps me out of trouble which I now embrace although things might change when the plaid arrives

Edited by stef1808 on Sunday 22 January 20:21

Ditto, I also have the same car but for me the most impressive thing is, overtaking is effortless from 30-50mph on A/B roads.

On the road the handling is fine, and the bigger brakes on the performance work well. ok the steering is a bit lifeless but you soon adjust to it.

The odd time I've taken it on track (mainly damp) not a lot comes past.

[RichA35]

stef1808 said:

Interesting the speed didn’t blow you away 0-60. When I first test drove the m3p I had never felt instant acceleration like that before and had to have one. Lacking top end keeps me out of trouble which I now embrace although things might change when the plaid arrives

Edited by stef1808 on Sunday 22 January 20:21

Don’t get me wrong, it’s fast, and 30 to 60 overtaking is very fast, but no, I wasnt blown away….i possibly expected to much (although I have driven cars that fast before) it’s ‘only’ a second quicker than my car, so I’m fairly used to similar acceleration. Maybe it’s the lack of noise, im not sure.

I honestly expected to feel like you after driving it, ‘and I’d have to have one’, but I didn’t which did surprise me.

Enjoy the Plaid….I’m 100% sure that would blow me away.

[Fastpedeller]

I've not driven a Tesla, but I sat in one on display in the MK shopping centre. I found it very uncomfortable, the floor seemed too high - and I don't like 'being in the clouds' and usually put car seats as low as they go. Not for me (I add that I don't know what model it was).

[Keith R]

I'm like stef. I test drove a M3 LR and *had* to have one. Based on that, I got the M3P. It's a hugely capable car in pretty much all scenarios, and nearly 12 months I'm still blown away by it. Whilst it doesn't have the same acceleration advantage above 70mph that it does below, it's still a fast car and would have easily pulled away from my previous remapped F31 330d.

I'm inclined to think an A35 wouldn't bother me too much if it tried it on. I'd be wishing it were the A45! But I've never driven one so can't really comment.

[RichA35]

Keith R said:

I'm like stef. I test drove a M3 LR and *had* to have one. Based on that, I got the M3P. It's a hugely capable car in pretty much all scenarios, and nearly 12 months I'm still blown away by it. Whilst it doesn't have the same acceleration advantage above 70mph that it does below, it's still a fast car and would have easily pulled away from my previous remapped F31 330d.

I'm inclined to think an A35 wouldn't bother me too much if it tried it on. I'd be wishing it were the A45! But I've never driven one so can't really comment.

I agree an A35 wouldn’t trouble an M3P, or a MYP (which this thread is about) but it would be close above 60, not that that particularly matters in the real world I suppose. However in my experience it is faster than a M3LR.

Throughout this thread I have acknowledged the performance Tesla’s are quick, very quick below 60, but I was not blown away by the performance.

I’m starting to think I may need another test drive though. I still think the interior is average. And I will still refrain from saying what I think about the handling (of the Model Y) because it’s a big heavy SUV.

I guess if you like going fast in a straight line only……

I am still 99% getting a Model Y, if the Model S was a hatchback I would get a M3P without a doubt. But unfortunately it’s not.

[RobbyJ]

RichA35 said:

if the Model S was a hatchback I would get a M3P without a doubt. But unfortunately it’s not.

Eh?

[RobbyJ]

The M3P has a 0-60 of 3.1
The A35 AMG has a 0-60 of 4.5

The numbers speak for themselves, that's a very big difference regardless of how it feels.

[RichA35]

RobbyJ said:

Eh?

Sorry meant model 3

[RobbyJ]

RichA35 said:

Sorry meant model 3

Yeah I was a tad confused

[RichA35]

RobbyJ said:

The M3P has a 0-60 of 3.1
The A35 AMG has a 0-60 of 4.5

The numbers speak for themselves, that's a very big difference regardless of how it feels.

Yep thanks for that? I’m sure two posts or so up I agreed that an A35 is not as fast as a M3P, but much appreciated.

Which was also not my original question and I was never comparing the two.

[MaxFromage]

RichA35 said:

However in my experience it is faster than a M3LR.

According to Fastest Laps the LR will trounce the A35. If you want to hoon across Wales then the LR wouldn't be the car to do it in, compared to a similar performance ICE for a number of reasons. However all I'm really bothered about real world is getting past traffic at lights, overtakes and fast progress on DC/motorway. For those requirements, the A35 will feel slow in comparison. And far harder work. Horses for courses.

[NSS89]

RichA35 said:

Yep thanks for that? I’m sure two posts or so up I agreed that an A35 is not as fast as a M3P, but much appreciated.

Which was also not my original question and I was never comparing the two.

Have you decided between the LR or P yet? I forgot to mention that with any non P model you can purchase “acceleration boost” for £1500 and it basically takes half a second off the 0-60. I think people who have it, mentioned a more noticeable difference in the 40-80 range (can’t remember the exact numbers).

You can also trial it for 24 hours before deciding if you want to keep it or not.

[RichA35]

NSS89 said:

Have you decided between the LR or P yet? I forgot to mention that with any non P model you can purchase “acceleration boost” for £1500 and it basically takes half a second off the 0-60. I think people who have it, mentioned a more noticeable difference in the 40-80 range (can’t remember the exact numbers).

You can also trial it for 24 hours before deciding if you want to keep it or not.

Thanks I had seen that but thought it was £2000, maybe that was dollars.

With regard to buying it I’m not sure how that would work with the company car insurance, but I can only ask. But then you may as well go the whole hog i suppose.

Currently it feels like the sensible thing to do is get the long range which would be plenty fast enough but I know deep down I would always want the performance.

I think I need to test drive the LR and see how it feels.

[NSS89]

RichA35 said:

Thanks I had seen that but thought it was £2000, maybe that was dollars.

With regard to buying it I’m not sure how that would work with the company car insurance, but I can only ask. But then you may as well go the whole hog i suppose.

Currently it feels like the sensible thing to do is get the long range which would be plenty fast enough but I know deep down I would always want the performance.

I think I need to test drive the LR and see how it feels.

You’re right - it’s £2k lol not sure where I got £1500 from.

I’d assume as it’s an official Tesla option you just tell them and they make a note. Would be surprised if it made any difference to the policy price.

Yeah I hear you but I think it’s a nice middle ground option to have. I also think it’s good if you get bored of cars quickly as it’s a bit like getting a remap mid ownership to keep you interested.

Honestly though you can’t go wrong with the LR. Running costs are just ridiculously cheap, if you have access to free/cheap charging. You can actually enjoy the power without worrying about atrociously low MPG numbers/high running costs. One pedal driving is so good once you get used to it. There’s just a lot of pros and hardly any cons. I think you’re feeling the way you are because you’re being forced into having an EV versus actually wanting one yourself. But trust me it’s not a bad thing. 100% recommend a test drive either way. You’ll have it to yourself for an hour which is a good amount of time.

[RichA35]

NSS89 said:

You’re right - it’s £2k lol not sure where I got £1500 from.

I’d assume as it’s an official Tesla option you just tell them and they make a note. Would be surprised if it made any difference to the policy price.

Yeah I hear you but I think it’s a nice middle ground option to have. I also think it’s good if you get bored of cars quickly as it’s a bit like getting a remap mid ownership to keep you interested.

Honestly though you can’t go wrong with the LR. Running costs are just ridiculously cheap, if you have access to free/cheap charging. You can actually enjoy the power without worrying about atrociously low MPG numbers/high running costs. One pedal driving is so good once you get used to it. There’s just a lot of pros and hardly any cons. I think you’re feeling the way you are because you’re being forced into having an EV versus actually wanting one yourself. But trust me it’s not a bad thing. 100% recommend a test drive either way. You’ll have it to yourself for an hour which is a good amount of time.

Thanks again and I agree.

I can charge for free at work and also technically claim the 8p a mile….but surely that won’t last…can’t do both.

The one foot driving I took to straight away, it’s probably the thing I liked the most. Also sub 20mpg around town does get tiresome in my current car.

And yes your totally correct, I suspect I would feel a lot more positive about a Tesla or any EV if I wasn’t being ‘forced’ into it.

So lots of positives, and the boot with the seats down is like a cave, so I can buy even more fishing stuff I don’t need!

[RichA35]

Ok so round two booked for Saturday and if they are nice enough to offer me the performance again I will politely decline and ask for a LR and ignore the confused response.

[RobbyJ]

RichA35 said:

Don’t get me wrong, it’s fast, and 30 to 60 overtaking is very fast, but no, I wasnt blown away….i possibly expected to much (although I have driven cars that fast before) it’s ‘only’ a second quicker than my car, so I’m fairly used to similar acceleration. Maybe it’s the lack of noise, im not sure.

I honestly expected to feel like you after driving it, ‘and I’d have to have one’, but I didn’t which did surprise me.

Enjoy the Plaid….I’m 100% sure that would blow me away.

It was this comment that did it for me. Officially there's a 1.4 second difference, 32%, nearly a third faster. It's not similar acceleration, it's much much faster.

It could well be the lack of noise, it could be other factors that impact EV performance like battery temp or state of charge too. I'm not lobbying for Tesla, just making a point.

A Rimac Nevera does 0-60 in 1.85 seconds, my P90DL does it in 2.8, yeah there's only a second in it, I'm used to powerful cars, I'm sure I could barely notice the difference

[RichA35]

RobbyJ said:

It was this comment that did it for me. Officially there's a 1.4 second difference, 32%, nearly a third faster. It's not similar acceleration, it's much much faster.

It could well be the lack of noise, it could be other factors that impact EV performance like battery temp or state of charge too. I'm not lobbying for Tesla, just making a point.

A Rimac Nevera does 0-60 in 1.85 seconds, my P90DL does it in 2.8, yeah there's only a second in it, I'm used to powerful cars, I'm sure I could barely notice the difference

Thanks another helpful comment….

[RobbyJ]

RichA35 said:

Thanks another helpful comment….

Anytime

[georgezippy]

Another new Y LR owner here.
Be wary of the 1 hour test drive - of anything really, you're blown away by the tech/ shinyness and unless you're used to an utter weapon already, the performance.
After a month of ownership, I don't regret, am not selling or changing, am in it for the long haul, but have quite mixed feelings about it.

Everything on one central screen is annoying. You're refocussing to touch the right icon and taking your eyes off the road for just a fraction too long.
You get used to where everything is on there but that will always be an issue.
The clock display is tiny. Good luck reading it from the back seat.
Ride is appalling (19" wheels, 40psi)
Parcel shelf is an afterthought, that shouldn't have been hard to get right.
It's very very wide.
Lack of geek info on the screen (unless I've not found it) instantaneous power/regen info etc. I like that sort of thing.
I missed the price drop so that's irritated me, nothing I can do but it's spoiled the experience.
Elon Musk is a bit of tool.

I like the performance but am not blown away by it, (former biker speaking) I thought it would launch quicker, I will save up for the AB to make it what it should be. Flooring it at 50 is more impressive as you don't expect a car to go that hard from a cruising speed.
You do get used to driving it smoothly but a badly driven one will make you feel queasy in no time.
The boot / load space is massive, one of the main reasons I bought it, it replaces an estate so needs to carry lots of things which it will.
Defrost/pre condition from your phone is nice (although most EVs do that).
Whilst the tech is very clever, you never get away from the fact it's an appliance to take you from one place to another.
Many other things have been pointed out in this thread, good and bad.

Am going for a trip this weekend and taking the Saab (before the ULEZ makes me sell it) as it's more comfortable and handles better.