Tesla test drive. Thoughts

[Piginapoke]

soupdragon1 said:

Whistle said:

Or just speak to the car and ask it to set the temperature to 20 or what ever you want.

None of this changes the fact that if you want warm or cold air blowing towards your face, your passenger gets that too, whether they like it or not

Whatever.

What do you think of the ID3? I test drove an early one and really liked it, although the UI was a bit clunky then. I understand it’s a bit better now? I also drove an ID4 and thought it was really slow and joyless, couldn’t wait to get out if it.

[skilly1]

soupdragon1 said:

None of this changes the fact that if you want warm or cold air blowing towards your face, your passenger gets that too, whether they like it or not

Why do you keep on saying this. See below where you can change the passenger temperature and the drivers temperature individually. These buttons on the screen at all time. You can’t see very well in pic but there are arrows either side of temp to adjust up and down.

[soupdragon1]

Piginapoke said:

Whatever.

What do you think of the ID3? I test drove an early one and really liked it, although the UI was a bit clunky then. I understand it’s a bit better now? I also drove an ID4 and thought it was really slow and joyless, couldn’t wait to get out if it.

I've driven the ID3 for about 100 miles just, as I only got it last Monday so I'll do a quick 1st impressions review.

Probably important to add the context of why we bought it. I trailed EVs for the 1st time with a 2 year stint in a Nissan Leaf and it was the 24kwh version and while I didn't need great miles, it was poor range and found myself wanting more on occasions.

So I settled on the ID3. I was looking for bang for buck and at £30k for the Family, 58kwh with upgraded wheels and the pro performance motor (200bhp) which I thought was a good deal. I would have preferred a BMW but their EV's are overpriced IMO.

Due to the waiting time for delivery, and the fact that the Leaf was starting to annoy me from time to time, I bought a BMW 530D GT to tide me over. While I've been waiting on that, I've fell in love with it and I'm keen to buy the 630 GT next as I love the space, the drive, the luxury. Reminds me of one of my favourite cars I had years ago, the Jaguar S Type. Just a great cruising machine. Only better.

So I didn't really want the ID3 and was considering just flipping it for a bit of profit. Meanwhile, the missus is complaining about spending £300 a month on fuel in her BMW X6 so in the end, we decided to buy the ID3 anyway, and she would commute to work in it.

So thats the backdrop.

Reading on VW forums this morning, the older series 2 software upgrades are proving to be a nightmare, and while its not on wide release, some tester volunteers are ending up with bricked cars. Make no mistake, if my ID3 had of been the older software, I would have refused to buy it. There is maybe even a chance that these older cars might never see version 3 of the software, so thats a big issue for VW to try and sort and its not going well.

Mine came loaded with the latest software, 3.2 or 3.02 maybe, can't remember and the app was just updated within the last couple of weeks, so when I picked this ID3 up and loaded the app, it was the latest version of both. Thank god for that, as it works as expected.

I'll start of with the bad points:

Self parking. I mean, its good that it has that as a feature and I like that its one of the hotkeys underneath the screen. Just drive into the carpark, press the hotkey and wait for the 'start' button to come onto the screen. Once it finds a spot, you come to a stop and just press start.

I've only done it twice and it seems its going to want to reverse in. Ok, fine, but at Tesco, I want to drive in so that I can access my boot with the groceries. Doesn't seem to be an option to let it drive in forwards, rather than reverse. On both occasions, it wasn't centred either. Occcasion 1 it reversed part way in, then went to go forwards to get its self ready to reverse in fully but a person came past the front of the car with a trolley so it had to stop. Once they were clear, the car had already decided at this point to just complete the reverse manouvre, and I already knew it needed to go forward a bit more to get properly aligned so it aborted the forward move and just carried on parking, meaning the driver side was too close to the white line. Still within the box but instead of 50/50 space either side, it was more like 90/10

Next time I did it, it was going swimmingly however another car decided to come in behind us to park which obviously upset the car. They were back to back spaces, ie, I was moving into a space which had another space in behind if you know what I mean, and the other car was coming up my ass not to take my space, but the one behind. It had its headlights on and was parking slowly, keeping an eye on me no doubt, so the car decided it was fine where it was, and didn't go back fully into the space. So this time, it was more to the front of the space.

We'll see how it goes on future parking. On one hand, its good that it recognises moving cars/people and reacts accordingly, but it seems that its happy to settle with a non optimal parking result, either parked too far to one side, or not far enough back. Will see what its like with no interuptions from people or other cars but I put it down as a fail right now, as generally, in a Tesco car park, you'll always have lots of activity going on from people and cars constantly moving around.

I like that its got a hot key for that.

Sound system. By default, the bass was set at maximum which was bloody dreadful sounding. And the mid and treble were set randomly all over the place too. I put everything to zero and it sounded much better, however, its still pretty rubbish overall. No rear speakers either. Thats just silly, I mean for goodness sake, no rear speakers??

In our X6 we have upgraded sound system and even that is pretty average, bordering on a rip off. £700 upgrade just for the sound to be 'satisfactory'

The only car I've ever had with a decent stock sound system is the Volvo V90. I'm a bit of an home cinema/audio fan, with a full Focal Dolby Atmos system in my movie room paired with pretty good Yamaha amplification. The front 3 speakers alone are £2.5k worth of audio bliss so its fair to say I'm a bit spoilt when it comes to enjoying high quality audio. When I got the Volvo, I could tell straight away that it was backed up with fairly decent amplification, with so so speakers. Probably paper cone but overall, not a bad listen.

The ID3 audio is probably the equivalent of a £30 desktop mini hifi set up. Yes, it makes a noise and you can sing along to a track if you feel like it, but its not great. The visual equivalent of watching a 4k HDR movie while wearing grandma's glasses.

Good points:

Probably No1 would be it feels well planted on the road and very sure footed. Our X6 has some of BMW's finest engineering in it, with wonderful torque vectoring and it feels really solid to drive, almost like its breaking the laws of physics. You get a real sense of control of the car and the ID3 feels a bit like that. Confidence inspiring. Not like a hot hatch with amazing handling, but just rock solid and it goes where you point it and doesn't get unsettled with bumps or anything like that. It feels more planted than my 530 GT

Like most EV's, it picks up really well and feels super sharp under the throttle. Not much else to say here, its just normal EV behaviour - instant torgue makes it feel faster than it really is. That instant kick comes in handy. Nice.

Driver aids:

I like that you've a hot key for accessing driver assistance. Press the hotkey and get that lane assist off is what most people will do I think. With Volvo Pilot assist, I found lane assist quite agressive. This VW assist is much better, as its more gentle and feels a bit more subdued and you could live with it (perhaps)

When I'm on B roads, I'll move towards the white line and sometime cross it, so lane keep is going to be a constant interruption so while I think they've done a good job with it, I'll still turn it off for that type of journey.

Radar cruise implementation is very polished. No jerky accelerations or braking (unless necessary of course) and its 100% useable. I've only done about 20 miles with it though but so far so good. Nothing to see here. Its fairly old tech now, so its been well refined over the years and it feels smart.

This car has a 'smart' feature where you've got a hybrid between no regen mode (D mode) and regen (B mode) in that it will coast when you lift off the throttle but if you lift off while approaching a roundabout for example, it will automatically do into B mode to regen some energy as it can tell from the sat nav that you'll be slowing down so it goes into regen to save some energy. I've seen it tested on YT and it looks good but I must try that out.

The App: very basic. Charging, climate control, send the sat nav a place to navigate to. Simple stuff and works great. Was at the beach at the weekend, as we were leaving, just input the desired temperature, arrive at the car, nice and warm. Simple, but, as mentioned above, older software versions are having some issue here. Thankfully I don't.

Hot keys: already mentioned self parking hot key and driver assistance hot key. You've also got climate and drive mode (ie, sport, comfort etc)

No complaints from me. The hot keys seem to be appropriate. Overall, I much prefer proper buttons but at least they've got the hot keys right.

Steering wheel buttons are I guess good that they are appropriate, bad that they are haptic feedback. I don't need haptic feedback thanks but it is what it is. They've done way with the touch sensitive element of it in my version of the car, and I know that people didn't like the touch/swipe element of the steering wheel buttons so at least I don't have to worry about that, thats been locked out now, which is probably a good thing.

You've got the normal buttons, volume, voice control, menu for the driver screen, cruise contol, speed limiter etc.

The driver screen is small but you can tailor it to show what you want, within reason...ie, you can't make the speed go away but you can drop things out like miles per kwh or pull them back in, move sat nav directions in and out etc. Functional and usable is a fair description. Not a patch on an audi driver screen for example but it does the basic functions fine.

Android auto is as expected as well as the missus using carplay. My work and home sat nav shortcut buttons were there already as soon as used it for the 1st time, so no need to do any set up or anything, it just took all that personal data that google have on me already and shared it with the car

Infotainment is one of the big talking points with ID cars but honestly, its spot on for me. Obviously, older generation software is well documented with issues but its been pretty seamless for me. I've literally had one problem so far and that was after charging for the 1st time. I took the plug out at the 22kw charger I was on but the ID3 wouldn't release the cable from the car. I actually had to google how to release it. Turns out, you need to unlock the car before you can release the plug, so I guess that makes sense. The dealer never mentioned it so I was scratching my head for a minute. But yeah, thats been about as far as the issues go for me. Still early days though so we'll see how it goes.

So thats pretty much it. Overall, the car isn't remarkable in any way. It doesn't annoy, nor does it provide any thrills, its just a fairly competent package. I haven't talked about the interior as there isn't much to be said. Its basic and functional, with nice comfortable seats. The best bits are that its a very surefooted and planted car, and the matrix headlights (which I haven't talked about) are as expected. They work perfectly and are great for night time driving. At 200bhp, thats plenty for the car I think. TBH, if you want more, you're probably going to need 4wd as it doesn't feel like there is much room left too add more power to the rear wheels. Maybe in bone dry conditions perhaps.

Sound system is crap and the jury is out on the self parking thing. I'm not convinced its the answer for those that have trouble parking. The reversing camera is great though, widescreen as well. I can't find the camera on the back so I presume its hidden in the VW badge, which is great if thats the case. Means it will stay clean.

TLDR:

2 favourite things are how it drives and the matrix headlights

2 worse things are the sound system and the dubious self parking

400 miles in total from new last Monday, 100 me, 300 missus and we're at 3.2 miles per KWh over that time period. Missus doesn't like regen 'B' mode so that may be impacting slightly but not too bad considering its a motorway commuter and we're in colder temperatures at the minute.

[dave_s13]

I've got a M3 test drive booked for Saturday....I've not intention of buying one from Tesla but they seem pretty cool about it so far. The booking process seems pretty slick so far.

[Piginapoke]

soupdragon1 said:

Piginapoke said:

Whatever.

What do you think of the ID3? I test drove an early one and really liked it, although the UI was a bit clunky then. I understand it’s a bit better now? I also drove an ID4 and thought it was really slow and joyless, couldn’t wait to get out if it.

I've driven the ID3 for about 100 miles just, as I only got it last Monday so I'll do a quick 1st impressions review.

Probably important to add the context of why we bought it. I trailed EVs for the 1st time with a 2 year stint in a Nissan Leaf and it was the 24kwh version and while I didn't need great miles, it was poor range and found myself wanting more on occasions.

So I settled on the ID3. I was looking for bang for buck and at £30k for the Family, 58kwh with upgraded wheels and the pro performance motor (200bhp) which I thought was a good deal. I would have preferred a BMW but their EV's are overpriced IMO.

Due to the waiting time for delivery, and the fact that the Leaf was starting to annoy me from time to time, I bought a BMW 530D GT to tide me over. While I've been waiting on that, I've fell in love with it and I'm keen to buy the 630 GT next as I love the space, the drive, the luxury. Reminds me of one of my favourite cars I had years ago, the Jaguar S Type. Just a great cruising machine. Only better.

So I didn't really want the ID3 and was considering just flipping it for a bit of profit. Meanwhile, the missus is complaining about spending £300 a month on fuel in her BMW X6 so in the end, we decided to buy the ID3 anyway, and she would commute to work in it.

So thats the backdrop.

Reading on VW forums this morning, the older series 2 software upgrades are proving to be a nightmare, and while its not on wide release, some tester volunteers are ending up with bricked cars. Make no mistake, if my ID3 had of been the older software, I would have refused to buy it. There is maybe even a chance that these older cars might never see version 3 of the software, so thats a big issue for VW to try and sort and its not going well.

Mine came loaded with the latest software, 3.2 or 3.02 maybe, can't remember and the app was just updated within the last couple of weeks, so when I picked this ID3 up and loaded the app, it was the latest version of both. Thank god for that, as it works as expected.

I'll start of with the bad points:

Self parking. I mean, its good that it has that as a feature and I like that its one of the hotkeys underneath the screen. Just drive into the carpark, press the hotkey and wait for the 'start' button to come onto the screen. Once it finds a spot, you come to a stop and just press start.

I've only done it twice and it seems its going to want to reverse in. Ok, fine, but at Tesco, I want to drive in so that I can access my boot with the groceries. Doesn't seem to be an option to let it drive in forwards, rather than reverse. On both occasions, it wasn't centred either. Occcasion 1 it reversed part way in, then went to go forwards to get its self ready to reverse in fully but a person came past the front of the car with a trolley so it had to stop. Once they were clear, the car had already decided at this point to just complete the reverse manouvre, and I already knew it needed to go forward a bit more to get properly aligned so it aborted the forward move and just carried on parking, meaning the driver side was too close to the white line. Still within the box but instead of 50/50 space either side, it was more like 90/10

Next time I did it, it was going swimmingly however another car decided to come in behind us to park which obviously upset the car. They were back to back spaces, ie, I was moving into a space which had another space in behind if you know what I mean, and the other car was coming up my ass not to take my space, but the one behind. It had its headlights on and was parking slowly, keeping an eye on me no doubt, so the car decided it was fine where it was, and didn't go back fully into the space. So this time, it was more to the front of the space.

We'll see how it goes on future parking. On one hand, its good that it recognises moving cars/people and reacts accordingly, but it seems that its happy to settle with a non optimal parking result, either parked too far to one side, or not far enough back. Will see what its like with no interuptions from people or other cars but I put it down as a fail right now, as generally, in a Tesco car park, you'll always have lots of activity going on from people and cars constantly moving around.

I like that its got a hot key for that.

Sound system. By default, the bass was set at maximum which was bloody dreadful sounding. And the mid and treble were set randomly all over the place too. I put everything to zero and it sounded much better, however, its still pretty rubbish overall. No rear speakers either. Thats just silly, I mean for goodness sake, no rear speakers??

In our X6 we have upgraded sound system and even that is pretty average, bordering on a rip off. £700 upgrade just for the sound to be 'satisfactory'

The only car I've ever had with a decent stock sound system is the Volvo V90. I'm a bit of an home cinema/audio fan, with a full Focal Dolby Atmos system in my movie room paired with pretty good Yamaha amplification. The front 3 speakers alone are £2.5k worth of audio bliss so its fair to say I'm a bit spoilt when it comes to enjoying high quality audio. When I got the Volvo, I could tell straight away that it was backed up with fairly decent amplification, with so so speakers. Probably paper cone but overall, not a bad listen.

The ID3 audio is probably the equivalent of a £30 desktop mini hifi set up. Yes, it makes a noise and you can sing along to a track if you feel like it, but its not great. The visual equivalent of watching a 4k HDR movie while wearing grandma's glasses.

Good points:

Probably No1 would be it feels well planted on the road and very sure footed. Our X6 has some of BMW's finest engineering in it, with wonderful torque vectoring and it feels really solid to drive, almost like its breaking the laws of physics. You get a real sense of control of the car and the ID3 feels a bit like that. Confidence inspiring. Not like a hot hatch with amazing handling, but just rock solid and it goes where you point it and doesn't get unsettled with bumps or anything like that. It feels more planted than my 530 GT

Like most EV's, it picks up really well and feels super sharp under the throttle. Not much else to say here, its just normal EV behaviour - instant torgue makes it feel faster than it really is. That instant kick comes in handy. Nice.

Driver aids:

I like that you've a hot key for accessing driver assistance. Press the hotkey and get that lane assist off is what most people will do I think. With Volvo Pilot assist, I found lane assist quite agressive. This VW assist is much better, as its more gentle and feels a bit more subdued and you could live with it (perhaps)

When I'm on B roads, I'll move towards the white line and sometime cross it, so lane keep is going to be a constant interruption so while I think they've done a good job with it, I'll still turn it off for that type of journey.

Radar cruise implementation is very polished. No jerky accelerations or braking (unless necessary of course) and its 100% useable. I've only done about 20 miles with it though but so far so good. Nothing to see here. Its fairly old tech now, so its been well refined over the years and it feels smart.

This car has a 'smart' feature where you've got a hybrid between no regen mode (D mode) and regen (B mode) in that it will coast when you lift off the throttle but if you lift off while approaching a roundabout for example, it will automatically do into B mode to regen some energy as it can tell from the sat nav that you'll be slowing down so it goes into regen to save some energy. I've seen it tested on YT and it looks good but I must try that out.

The App: very basic. Charging, climate control, send the sat nav a place to navigate to. Simple stuff and works great. Was at the beach at the weekend, as we were leaving, just input the desired temperature, arrive at the car, nice and warm. Simple, but, as mentioned above, older software versions are having some issue here. Thankfully I don't.

Hot keys: already mentioned self parking hot key and driver assistance hot key. You've also got climate and drive mode (ie, sport, comfort etc)

No complaints from me. The hot keys seem to be appropriate. Overall, I much prefer proper buttons but at least they've got the hot keys right.

Steering wheel buttons are I guess good that they are appropriate, bad that they are haptic feedback. I don't need haptic feedback thanks but it is what it is. They've done way with the touch sensitive element of it in my version of the car, and I know that people didn't like the touch/swipe element of the steering wheel buttons so at least I don't have to worry about that, thats been locked out now, which is probably a good thing.

You've got the normal buttons, volume, voice control, menu for the driver screen, cruise contol, speed limiter etc.

The driver screen is small but you can tailor it to show what you want, within reason...ie, you can't make the speed go away but you can drop things out like miles per kwh or pull them back in, move sat nav directions in and out etc. Functional and usable is a fair description. Not a patch on an audi driver screen for example but it does the basic functions fine.

Android auto is as expected as well as the missus using carplay. My work and home sat nav shortcut buttons were there already as soon as used it for the 1st time, so no need to do any set up or anything, it just took all that personal data that google have on me already and shared it with the car

Infotainment is one of the big talking points with ID cars but honestly, its spot on for me. Obviously, older generation software is well documented with issues but its been pretty seamless for me. I've literally had one problem so far and that was after charging for the 1st time. I took the plug out at the 22kw charger I was on but the ID3 wouldn't release the cable from the car. I actually had to google how to release it. Turns out, you need to unlock the car before you can release the plug, so I guess that makes sense. The dealer never mentioned it so I was scratching my head for a minute. But yeah, thats been about as far as the issues go for me. Still early days though so we'll see how it goes.

So thats pretty much it. Overall, the car isn't remarkable in any way. It doesn't annoy, nor does it provide any thrills, its just a fairly competent package. I haven't talked about the interior as there isn't much to be said. Its basic and functional, with nice comfortable seats. The best bits are that its a very surefooted and planted car, and the matrix headlights (which I haven't talked about) are as expected. They work perfectly and are great for night time driving. At 200bhp, thats plenty for the car I think. TBH, if you want more, you're probably going to need 4wd as it doesn't feel like there is much room left too add more power to the rear wheels. Maybe in bone dry conditions perhaps.

Sound system is crap and the jury is out on the self parking thing. I'm not convinced its the answer for those that have trouble parking. The reversing camera is great though, widescreen as well. I can't find the camera on the back so I presume its hidden in the VW badge, which is great if thats the case. Means it will stay clean.

TLDR:

2 favourite things are how it drives and the matrix headlights

2 worse things are the sound system and the dubious self parking

400 miles in total from new last Monday, 100 me, 300 missus and we're at 3.2 miles per KWh over that time period. Missus doesn't like regen 'B' mode so that may be impacting slightly but not too bad considering its a motorway commuter and we're in colder temperatures at the minute.

Thanks for taking the time to reply, glad you are liking the ID3. I think they look funky.

In a similar vein for my Tesla M3 LR:

Favourite things: So fast, minimalist interior, Screen UI, Phone App, Front boot so handy, range >290 in all conditions, brilliant stereo, Autopilot great in traffic in particular.

Bad things: Shouldn’t have gone for white, seats cause me some backache, auto lights hopeless, auto wipers rubbish.

Overall, a fantastic car.

[annodomini2]

paradigital said:

annodomini2 said:

That Der Spiegel article doesn't sound plausible, I know Tesla's steering system, it is a level 2 system, always was.

The next gen stuff due out later this year is intended to go L3+.

They removed the radar as they couldn't get parts, the parking sensors are cost saving.

They did however remove the data capability from the armrest USB-C ports without telling anyone. At the time this also removed some games from the system too, as you couldn’t use controllers any other way.

The games issue is resolved now, and I resolved the front USB port data issue by replacing the module with one that does carry data (as the car was still wired for it).

There were also some shipped without Wireless charging board, which was fitted at the service centres later.

Agree on the data port part, they handled that poorly.

But there's a big difference in removing a safety component and removing an add on feature.

[WestyCarl]

Piginapoke said:

I just set the temp and the car does the rest, including heated seats. Maybe I should try and make it more complicated.

This is one of the surprising better item's I found in the Tesla M3.

In previous Audi's / BMW's I was always fiddling with the temp (on a cold day increasing to 22 Deg, warm day 18 Deg) to be comfortable. In the model 3 it's set at 20Deg and I never have to adjust it. Maybe it's due to the much larger air vent but the temp seems alot more consistent.

[Register1]

Whistle said:

Or just speak to the car and ask it to set the temperature to 20 or what ever you want.

This is what wife does.
or play such a such song by whoever.
Wipers on if she wants them on, or off if they on, and she wants them off,
Almost everything is spoken command to the Tesla (new Model 3)

[Register1]

skilly1 said:

soupdragon1 said:

None of this changes the fact that if you want warm or cold air blowing towards your face, your passenger gets that too, whether they like it or not

Why do you keep on saying this. See below where you can change the passenger temperature and the drivers temperature individually. These buttons on the screen at all time. You can’t see very well in pic but there are arrows either side of temp to adjust up and down.

Exactly,
Couldn't be much easier, apart from spoken voice.

[LHRFlightman]

Picking up my 2021 SR+ tomorrow. Can't wait, not going to sleep much tonight.

[LordFlathead]

LHRFlightman said:

Picking up my 2021 SR+ tomorrow. Can't wait, not going to sleep much tonight.

I remember picking up my car on a late December night at Thorpe Park in pitch darkness.. the guy handing out the Tesla access cards said, "It's over there.. somewhere.. let me know if you can't find it.

There were over 1000 cars in the car park for collection that night and it was pouring with rain

Good luck and do report back. fk what everyone else says I think they are a great car and I've had a few

[DodgyGeezer]

LordFlathead said:

I remember picking up my car on a late December night at Thorpe Park in pitch darkness.. the guy handing out the Tesla access cards said, "It's over there.. somewhere.. let me know if you can't find it.

There were over 1000 cars in the car park for collection that night and it was pouring with rain

Good luck and do report back. fk what everyone else says I think they are a great car and I've had a few

that is possibly the most disappointing thing about the whole experience, the handover. I don't expect a marching band and fireworks but something a little better than "here's your card/ Fill your boots" would be nice

[Puzzles]

The worst thing about them is customer service ime.

[CharlieAlphaMike]

Puzzles said:

The worst thing about them is customer service ime.

Your comment is based on personal experience I assume?

[CharlieAlphaMike]

DodgyGeezer said:

LordFlathead said:

I remember picking up my car on a late December night at Thorpe Park in pitch darkness.. the guy handing out the Tesla access cards said, "It's over there.. somewhere.. let me know if you can't find it.

There were over 1000 cars in the car park for collection that night and it was pouring with rain

Good luck and do report back. fk what everyone else says I think they are a great car and I've had a few

that is possibly the most disappointing thing about the whole experience, the handover. I don't expect a marching band and fireworks but something a little better than "here's your card/ Fill your boots" would be nice

Handovers are always a bit hit and miss in my experience. Gone are the days of a bouquet of flowers and a bottle of something, along with a run through of the controls. And so what if they don't 'unveil' the car from under a silk cover?

With this in mind, I have to say I was quite happy with the handover of my Model 3. Ok, I collected it from a car park (old airfield) but I knew this beforehand so I wasn't expecting to collect from a shiny (and expensive) showroom; and I couldn't care less about that if I'm honest. I was out of the country when I got the SMS about the collection date but one phone call and they put the collection back by a week.

Upon collection, they charged it from 25% to 90% with their Supercharger (for free) and gave me (and my wife) coffee whilst we waited. They also showed me the basic controls and set everything up for me. The pre-collection service and aftercare service has also been really good. Everyone I've dealt with from the start has answered all my questions promptly.

Personally, I couldn't be happier with the service I've received to date

I hasten to add that I'm not in the UK.

[Puzzles]

CharlieAlphaMike said:

Your comment is based on personal experience I assume?

Yes and in many others. When all is well it's fine, but as soon as it's not they are terrible IME.

Edited by Puzzles on Saturday 25th February 14:19

[LHRFlightman]

Car collected from R SYMONS this morning. RSEV in YouTube.

Exemplary service. Unlike the post above, Richard sat in the car with me and went through the entire UI, asking me for my preference, sharing what he uses.

After an entertaining and informative hour, I left.

75 miles of mixed driving later including towns, A roads and motorway, I was home having used 29.2% of the battery. That was with temps of 7C and no battery preconditioning. More than acceptable I think and any minor anxiety about range anxiety has gone already.

The car is a comfy cruiser with all the mod cons you could wish for. It has the enhanced autopilot, excellent, and immersive audio which is just great.

And it picks up its heels and flies when asked. This is the SR+ and it's plenty quick enough for real world driving.

So far, 5 hours in, I'm a very happy Tesla owner.

[LordFlathead]

LHRFlightman said:

Car collected from R SYMONS this morning. RSEV in YouTube.

Exemplary service. Unlike the post above, Richard sat in the car with me and went through the entire UI, asking me for my preference, sharing what he uses.

After an entertaining and informative hour, I left.

75 miles of mixed driving later including towns, A roads and motorway, I was home having used 29.2% of the battery. That was with temps of 7C and no battery preconditioning. More than acceptable I think and any minor anxiety about range anxiety has gone already.

The car is a comfy cruiser with all the mod cons you could wish for. It has the enhanced autopilot, excellent, and immersive audio which is just great.

And it picks up its heels and flies when asked. This is the SR+ and it's plenty quick enough for real world driving.

So far, 5 hours in, I'm a very happy Tesla owner.

Congrats and welcome to the club

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LHRFlightman said:

Car collected from R SYMONS this morning. RSEV in YouTube.

Exemplary service. Unlike the post above, Richard sat in the car with me and went through the entire UI, asking me for my preference, sharing what he uses.

After an entertaining and informative hour, I left.

75 miles of mixed driving later including towns, A roads and motorway, I was home having used 29.2% of the battery. That was with temps of 7C and no battery preconditioning. More than acceptable I think and any minor anxiety about range anxiety has gone already.

The car is a comfy cruiser with all the mod cons you could wish for. It has the enhanced autopilot, excellent, and immersive audio which is just great.

And it picks up its heels and flies when asked. This is the SR+ and it's plenty quick enough for real world driving.

So far, 5 hours in, I'm a very happy Tesla owner.

My wife bought a new RWD (SR+ is old name) and as you say, its really more than quick enough to crack on down the roads or motorway

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LHRFlightman said:

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And it picks up its heels and flies when asked. This is the SR+ and it's plenty quick enough for real world driving.

So far, 5 hours in, I'm a very happy Tesla owner.

Congratulations and enjoy!

I recently rented an SR+ and even though my DD is a Model 3 Performance, I thought that the SR+ had more performance than most would ever need.