Re : Toyota GR Yaris - official!

Re : Toyota GR Yaris - official!

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ferrisbueller

29,343 posts

228 months

Monday 11th January 2021
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bcr5784 said:
ferrisbueller said:
The notion of using a £70k plus car as my daily, with all that entails, is far beyond my comfort zone.
But if I were to buy a car like the Yaris or, say, an MX5 which wouldn't satisfy all my daily needs, then I would need another car - so I would likely spend a similar amount on two cars. If, of course, you are happy to daily the GRY - quite a few on here clearly are - then it's a different argument.
I struggle to think of something more appropriate for daily use than a small hatchback.

ChrisW.

6,325 posts

256 months

Monday 11th January 2021
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ecsrobin said:
I know Raeder motorsport (Manthey) are working with apex on their car so will see what they come up with for handling.
Thanks for correcting my spelling smile Porsche own what percentage of Manthey ?

ecsrobin

17,142 posts

166 months

Monday 11th January 2021
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ChrisW. said:
ecsrobin said:
I know Raeder motorsport (Manthey) are working with apex on their car so will see what they come up with for handling.
Thanks for correcting my spelling smile Porsche own what percentage of Manthey ?
I hadn’t noticed so wasn’t being pedantic.

They did have a 51% share may be more now?

bcr5784

7,118 posts

146 months

Monday 11th January 2021
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ecsrobin said:
I think it’s only you that is unhappy with the cars refinement for daily use.
I might be more critical than most - but look on Carwow - he's a BIG fan and still criticises road roar (in common with everyone else) and wind noise. As I say in days gone by I would have thought it fine - but standards move on. May be that the example I drove was atypical - but I am amazed that no-one has mentioned transmission noise, or the fact that the engine isn't very smooth (by 3 cylinder standards). I suspect that many were having too much fun to notice - when you go to the shops in it you might.


Like I say it depends on your reference point - compared with a 7 series BMW obviously it's unrefined - but that isn't a comparable drivers' car. However an A110 or Cayman are serious drivers and compared to either it is unrefined. Of course it's far cheaper so far more acceptable, if you are prepared to accept the compromise. I want a do-it-all every day and holiday vehicle and don't want that compromise. As a third vehicle for us it would be fine - as an alternative to the A110 it makes no sense (given my priorities - and the fact that the OH wouldn't be keen to use it).


Edited by bcr5784 on Monday 11th January 19:36

ecsrobin

17,142 posts

166 months

Monday 11th January 2021
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bcr5784 said:
ecsrobin said:
I think it’s only you that is unhappy with the cars refinement for daily use.
I might be more critical than most - but look on Carwow - he's a BIG fan and still criticises road roar (in common with everyone else) and wind noise. As I say in days gone by I would have thought it fine - but standards move on. May be that the example I drove was atypical - but I am amazed that no-one has mentioned transmission noise, or the fact that the engine isn't very smooth (by 3 cylinder standards). I suspect that many were having too much fun to notice - when you go to the shops in it you might.

Like I say it depends on your reference point - compared with an A110 or Cayman it is unrefined. Of course it's far cheaper so far more acceptable, if you are prepared to accept the compromise. I want a do-it-all every day and holiday vehicle. As a third vehicle for us it would be fine - as an alternative to the A110 it makes no sense (given my priorities).
Yep definitely more critical than most on all the threads. Kind of in the sidewaysSi territory of beating a drum and getting a bit boring.

Pretty sure as an owner I’ve mentioned a few times that it is louder in the cabin but that I put that down to tyres and trying to save weight yet it is more than ok for long journeys and in my case my commute. Over 1,000 miles done now mainly commuting and happy with the noise.

bcr5784

7,118 posts

146 months

Monday 11th January 2021
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ecsrobin said:
Yep definitely more critical than most on all the threads. Kind of in the sidewaysSi territory of beating a drum and getting a bit boring.

Pretty sure as an owner I’ve mentioned a few times that it is louder in the cabin but that I put that down to tyres and trying to save weight yet it is more than ok for long journeys and in my case my commute. Over 1,000 miles done now mainly commuting and happy with the noise.
You are beating the drum from an Abarth perspective - rather different from most. I don't have a problem with you having a different view - I've dailied Loti, a Caterham and even motorbikes.

Edited by bcr5784 on Monday 11th January 19:42

ecsrobin

17,142 posts

166 months

Monday 11th January 2021
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bcr5784 said:
ecsrobin said:
Yep definitely more critical than most on all the threads. Kind of in the sidewaysSi territory of beating a drum and getting a bit boring.

Pretty sure as an owner I’ve mentioned a few times that it is louder in the cabin but that I put that down to tyres and trying to save weight yet it is more than ok for long journeys and in my case my commute. Over 1,000 miles done now mainly commuting and happy with the noise.
You are beating the drum from an Abarth perspective - rather different from most.
No I’m coming from the angle of moving up to a £35k car not moving down. Although from the Abarth angle I think there’s more Abarth owners than A110 owners looking at people’s posts.

LemonTart

1,373 posts

135 months

Monday 11th January 2021
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Hi ecsrobin

Can I ask what sort of mpg you are getting on general driving please?

Thanks in anticipation
Ed

Ron240

2,773 posts

120 months

Monday 11th January 2021
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ChrisW. said:
I own a 981 GT4 which has been modified to suit
In terms of cost for fun, I can quite understand anybody choosing the Toyota over the GT4.
That's good but your situation is different.
You are coming at it from a different angle.

bcr5784

7,118 posts

146 months

Monday 11th January 2021
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ecsrobin said:
No I’m coming from the angle of moving up to a £35k car not moving down. Although from the Abarth angle I think there’s more Abarth owners than A110 owners looking at people’s posts.
I actually doubt it - the Abarth is (to most people) a very left field car - there aren't many A110 owners (but I think the GRY has definite appeal to quite a few - including me) and, I suspect plenty of Porsche enthusiasts and Lotus owners considering the GRY as one of the (very few) interesting new cars.

The problem with most reviews is that comparisons of cars in different categories absolute standards are rarely addressed. So, for example, my OHs Ibiza FR is much quieter than not only the GRY but my Alpine, my previous Cayman, a 911 etc etc. Where you draw the line is very much subjective. I note that Harry Metcalf (Harry's Garage) has finally concluded that the latest 911 is unacceptably noisy (would he have said that 20 years ago?).

ecsrobin

17,142 posts

166 months

Monday 11th January 2021
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LemonTart said:
Hi ecsrobin

Can I ask what sort of mpg you are getting on general driving please?

Thanks in anticipation
Ed
Over 1,024 miles I’ve averaged 27.4mpg.

MiseryStreak

2,929 posts

208 months

Monday 11th January 2021
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Jeez I thought we’d covered this.
It’s a rally homologation car!

If you want a refined 4WD hatchback get a Golf R, Audi S3, S1 etc.

The Yaris feels like a Maybach compared with the sorts of cars I’ve owned and love. The fact I could hear and feel mechanical things going on underneath was a massive plus point for me.

DSC OFF

191 posts

62 months

Monday 11th January 2021
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Blissy0 said:
Got to say I’m not a fan of the lowered car, looks abit “fiesta ST” over homologation special. And I fit coilovers to pretty much every car I buy

RSVP911

8,192 posts

134 months

Monday 11th January 2021
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Ian_E said:
RSVP911 said:
Hi Chris -just wanted a précis of 300 odd pages as it’s quite a read - seen most of the reviews and it looks like a huge amount of fun to me - I’ve deposited on one, but it’s not due for a while, so I’m hoping someone may want out - if so PM me - Red or Pearlescent White with the circuit pack please. smile


Edited by RSVP911 on Friday 8th January 21:21
@RSVP911 are you on https://gr-yaris.co.uk/forum/ ? It would be worth putting a wanted advert on there. If you join, please can you send me a message ASAP - username 'Ian E' on there (I can't private message on Pistonheads yet).

Edited by Ian_E on Monday 11th January 10:32


Edited by Ian_E on Monday 11th January 10:33
Thanks - have tried to send you a message on that site - no idea if it’ll work smile

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 11th January 2021
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MiseryStreak said:
Jeez I thought we’d covered this.
It’s a rally homologation car!

If you want a refined 4WD hatchback get a Golf R, Audi S3, S1 etc.

The Yaris feels like a Maybach compared with the sorts of cars I’ve owned and love. The fact I could hear and feel mechanical things going on underneath was a massive plus point for me.
Totally agree, wondering about road noise on a car like saying a.. I dunno... It's like saying something I guess. The same for mpg. It drinks petrol, a lot. On a long journey you may see 40 sat at 65mph on the motorway but for the way most peeps will drive it you'll see less than 30.

Not a car for mpg or quiet cruising. Get a dsg golf for big miles get a GR for big smiles get heated seats for warm piles.

LemonTart

1,373 posts

135 months

Monday 11th January 2021
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ecsrobin said:
Over 1,024 miles I’ve averaged 27.4mpg.
Thanks that’s useful to know.


ecsrobin

17,142 posts

166 months

Monday 11th January 2021
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Thanks to a helpful member on the GR Yaris forum they’ve spotted servicing details are now listed on the Toyota UK website and are the following:

6,000 miles £165
Intermediate Service 6,000 miles/1 yearRecommended

We recommend that Toyota owners carry out a 6,000 miles/1 Year intermediate service as per schedule. Scheduling regular service appointments as per your vehicles service schedule helps maintain the health and longevity of your vehicle whilst helping prevent maintenance issues down the road.

Carry out 6K/12 month intermediate service as per schedule.
Includes:- Replace engine oil & oil filter.
Replace windscreen washer fluid.
Check all fluid levels & top up as required.
Inspect battery for leaks, security of clamps & terminals.
Inspect cooling system, hoses & connections.
Inspect radiator & condenser for debris & signs of damage.
Inspect clutch fluid.
Inspect brake fluid.
Check wheel nuts for correct torque specifications.
Inspect brake pads & discs.
Inspect pollen filter.
Inspect steering wheel, gear & linkages.
Inspect for under vehicle and underhood fluid leaks.
Inspect tyre condition & inflation pressures.
Check brake & clutch pedal travel.
Check operation of lights, horns, wipers & washers.
Check function of all warning lights.
Check seat belts for damage & operation.
Check installation of drivers floor mat.
Carry out wash & vacuum.
Carry out visual safety report.
Carry out final inspection & road test.

12,000 miles £375
Full Service 12,000 miles/2 yearsRecommended

We recommend that Toyota owners carry out a 12,000 miles/2 Years full service as per schedule. Scheduling regular service appointments as per your vehicles service schedule helps maintain the health and longevity of your vehicle whilst helping prevent maintenance issues down the road.

Carry out 12K/24 month full service as per schedule.
Includes:- Replace engine oil & oil filter.
Inspect drive belt.
Replace windscreen washer fluid.
Check all fluid levels & top up as required.
Inspect battery for leaks, security of clamps & terminals.
Inspect cooling system, hoses & connections.
Inspect radiator & condenser for debris & signs of damage.
Inspect air filter element.
Inspect clutch fluid.
Clean air flow meter.
Inspect brake fluid.
Inspect brake pads & discs.
Check brake pipes & hoses.
Inspect fuel cap, fuel lines & connections.
Inspect transfer case oil.
Inspect rear differential oil.
Inspect steering wheel, gear & linkages.
Inspect drive shafts including CV boots.
Inspect ball joints & dust covers.
Inspect wheel alignment.
Inspect wheel bearings.
Lubricate propeller shaft & tighten bolts.
Inspect front & rear suspension.
Inspect for under vehicle and underhood fluid leaks.
Check exhaust system for security & leaks.
Inspect tyre condition & inflation pressures.
Check wheel rims for damage & tighten wheel nuts to correct torque.
Check operation of hand brake.
Check brake & clutch pedal travel.
Check operation of lights, horns, wipers & washers.
Check function of all warning lights.
Inspect glass and light lenses.
Replace pollen filter.
Check seat belts for damage & operation.
Check installation of drivers floor mat.
Check operation of alarm system.
Carry out wash & vacuum.
Carry out visual safety report.
Carry out final inspection & road test.

18,000 Miles £165

Intermediate Service 18,000 miles/3 yearsRecommended

We recommend that Toyota owners carry out a 18,000 miles/3 Years intermediate service as per schedule. Scheduling regular service appointments as per your vehicles service schedule helps maintain the health and longevity of your vehicle whilst helping prevent maintenance issues down the road.

Carry out 18K/36 month intermediate service as per schedule.
Includes:- Replace engine oil & oil filter.
Replace windscreen washer fluid.
Check all fluid levels & top up as required.
Inspect battery for leaks, security of clamps & terminals.
Inspect cooling system, hoses & connections.
Inspect radiator & condenser for debris & signs of damage.
Inspect clutch fluid.
Inspect brake fluid.
Check wheel nuts for correct torque specifications.
Inspect brake pads & discs.
Inspect pollen filter.
Inspect steering wheel, gear & linkages.
Inspect for under vehicle and underhood fluid leaks.
Inspect tyre condition & inflation pressures.
Check brake & clutch pedal travel.
Check operation of lights, horns, wipers & washers.
Check function of all warning lights.
Check seat belts for damage & operation.
Check installation of drivers floor mat.
Carry out wash & vacuum.
Carry out visual safety report.
Carry out final inspection & road test.

24,000 Miles £375

Full Service 24,000 miles/4 yearsRecommended

We recommend that Toyota owners carry out a 24,000 miles/4 Years full service as per schedule. Scheduling regular service appointments as per your vehicles service schedule helps maintain the health and longevity of your vehicle whilst helping prevent maintenance issues down the road.

Carry out 24K/48 month full service as per schedule.
Includes:- Replace engine oil & oil filter.
Inspect drive belt.
Replace windscreen washer fluid.
Check all fluid levels & top up as required.
Inspect battery for leaks, security of clamps & terminals.
Inspect cooling system, hoses & connections.
Inspect radiator & condenser for debris & signs of damage.
Inspect engine coolant.
Replace air filter element.
Clean air flow meter.
Inspect charcoal canister.
Replace clutch fluid.
Replace brake fluid.
Inspect brake pads & discs.
Check brake pipes & hoses.
Inspect manual transmission oil.
Inspect fuel cap, fuel lines & connections.
Replace transfer case oil.
Replace rear differential oil.
Inspect steering wheel, gear & linkages.
Inspect drive shafts including CV boots.
Inspect ball joints & dust covers.
Inspect wheel alignment.
Inspect wheel bearings.
Lubricate propeller shaft & tighten bolts.
Inspect front & rear suspension.
Inspect for under vehicle and underhood fluid leaks.
Check exhaust system for security & leaks.
Inspect tyre condition & inflation pressures.
Check wheel rims for damage & tighten wheel nuts to correct torque.
Check operation of hand brake.
Check brake & clutch pedal travel.
Check operation of lights, horns, wipers & washers.
Check function of all warning lights.
Inspect glass and light lenses.
Replace pollen filter.
Check seat belts for damage & operation.
Check installation of drivers floor mat.
Check operation of alarm system.
Replace remote control battery.
Carry out wash & vacuum.
Carry out visual safety report.
Carry out final inspection & road test.

Onehp

1,617 posts

284 months

Monday 11th January 2021
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Hard to please everybody.

Rawer - quieter
Grippier - more adjustable
Exclusive - available
More power - lighter
Compact - practical

Etc.

No wonder we get the cars we generally get...

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 11th January 2021
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Onehp said:
Hard to please everybody.

Rawer - quieter
Grippier - more adjustable
Exclusive - available
More power - lighter
Compact - practical

Etc.

No wonder we get the cars we generally get...
Yep it's why steering feel gets engineered out and understeer gets introduced.

Matthew Clarke

301 posts

140 months

Monday 11th January 2021
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ecsrobin said:
Thanks to a helpful member on the GR Yaris forum they’ve spotted servicing details are now listed on the Toyota UK website and are the following:
So no 6 month servicing then? Bonus.
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