Re : Toyota GR Yaris - official!

[DSC OFF]

ecsrobin said:

The mini isn’t standard fitted with a Venturi intake rated as an additional 15-18bhp 17-20Ib-ft torque.

That intake does bugger all. Evolve marketing mumbo jumbo.

Anyway, Carwow clocked a different GP3 at 13.0 in the dry vs civic type r & tuned mountune focus and tuned i30n

It still walked away from all of them. Hasn’t a German mag timed one at 0-100mph in the ten second range too? Utterly rapid little car that will savage a Yaris once it finds traction.

Still, would much rather drive/own the Toyota

[bennno]

ecsrobin said:

bennno said:

Costs vendor nothing to sell / list.

So you lost £875 plus the hassle of selling.

Not quite, more complex, potentially not sold, but can’t share detail at this point.

To be fair I got a very, very good deal on a twin turbo amg SL that came up unexpectedly hence sale.

Will report back in a week.

[Caddyshack]

ecsrobin said:

Caddyshack said:

You can get inflatable roof racks that protect the roof and lash down through the windows I think?

Or just hire skis?

Don’t they normally rely on rear windows opening otherwise would be very short?

Good point. Assume the Yaris rear windows do not even open out then like a pug 205?

[ecsrobin]

Caddyshack said:

Good point. Assume the Yaris rear windows do not even open out then like a pug 205?

No they don’t. Can’t be many/any cars that are on sale these days that do?

[Ron240]

bennno said:

To be fair I got a very, very good deal on a twin turbo amg SL that came up unexpectedly hence sale.

Pity it wasn't a very, very, very good deal and you might have been able to keep both.

[Onehp]

PhilPol said:

Carwow, you need to step up your game and get a collection like this together for a video.

Just beautiful to see them all together... wow...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu3G5xm_bYc

Well done!

I would be very interested to find out what all these cars actually weigh, on scales. The GRY is very honest, circuit pack being 1280-1290kg with a full tank.

[bcr5784]

Onehp said:

Well done!

I would be very interested to find out what all these cars actually weigh, on scales. The GRY is very honest, circuit pack being 1280-1290kg with a full tank.

Toyota claim 1310 for circuit pack - 1280 for regular car. That's DIn, I believe, not EU (ie 90% full tank, no driver)

[MiseryStreak]

bcr5784 said:

Onehp said:

Well done!

I would be very interested to find out what all these cars actually weigh, on scales. The GRY is very honest, circuit pack being 1280-1290kg with a full tank.

Toyota claim 1310 for circuit pack - 1280 for regular car. That's DIn, I believe, not EU (ie 90% full tank, no driver)

That’s not what I read. The circuit pack is 10 kg lighter than standard (1,280 kg) due to the forged wheels.

https://media.toyota.co.uk/wp-content/files_mf/160...

Toyota article Page 6 said:

The GR Yaris Circuit Pack equips the car with lightweight forged alloy wheels with highly rigid spokes. These further reduce the car’s overall weight, by 10kg.

[ecsrobin]

MiseryStreak said:

bcr5784 said:

Onehp said:

Well done!

I would be very interested to find out what all these cars actually weigh, on scales. The GRY is very honest, circuit pack being 1280-1290kg with a full tank.

Toyota claim 1310 for circuit pack - 1280 for regular car. That's DIn, I believe, not EU (ie 90% full tank, no driver)

That’s not what I read. The circuit pack is 10 kg lighter than standard (1,280 kg) due to the forged wheels.

https://media.toyota.co.uk/wp-content/files_mf/160...

Toyota article Page 6 said:

The GR Yaris Circuit Pack equips the car with lightweight forged alloy wheels with highly rigid spokes. These further reduce the car’s overall weight, by 10kg.

But the 2 diffs do they add weight so that’s 10kg off the higher weight?

[Onehp]

I'm referring to people that put the circuit pack car on scales! P*ss all claimed figures, not very reliable! Usually...

1280-1290kg for the Yaris is gospel, focus on finding forum posts, magazine test etc that actually put the other rally heroes on scales...

[s m]

Onehp said:

PhilPol said:

Carwow, you need to step up your game and get a collection like this together for a video.

Just beautiful to see them all together... wow...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu3G5xm_bYc

Well done!

I would be very interested to find out what all these cars actually weigh, on scales. The GRY is very honest, circuit pack being 1280-1290kg with a full tank.

The Subaru and early Lancer will be closest in weight to the Yaris if you mean standard examples of those cars. Doubt there’ll be anything there that was much over 1350kg out the factory. Maybe the Celica

[Holgate86]

Ron240 said:

bennno said:

To be fair I got a very, very good deal on a twin turbo amg SL that came up unexpectedly hence sale.

Pity it wasn't a very, very, very good deal and you might have been able to keep both.

Needs to have been a very, very, very, very, very good deal...when I was looking 18 months ago you could get a pre reg or super low mileage demo for £75k....not bad for a car with OTR of over £125k at the time!!

Be a great foyle to the GRY though!

[forest172]

MiseryStreak said:

bcr5784 said:

Onehp said:

Well done!

I would be very interested to find out what all these cars actually weigh, on scales. The GRY is very honest, circuit pack being 1280-1290kg with a full tank.

Toyota claim 1310 for circuit pack - 1280 for regular car. That's DIn, I believe, not EU (ie 90% full tank, no driver)

That’s not what I read. The circuit pack is 10 kg lighter than standard (1,280 kg) due to the forged wheels.

https://media.toyota.co.uk/wp-content/files_mf/160...

Toyota article Page 6 said:

The GR Yaris Circuit Pack equips the car with lightweight forged alloy wheels with highly rigid spokes. These further reduce the car’s overall weight, by 10kg.

wheel and tyre weigh 18.17kg

[Olivera]

Onehp said:

1280-1290kg for the Yaris is gospel, focus on finding forum posts, magazine test etc that actually put the other rally heroes on scales...

Toyota UK site states "KERB WEIGHT MIN/ KERB WEIGHT MAX - 1,280/1,305" https://www.toyota.co.uk/world-of-toyota/toyota-ga... then we need to add on 75kg for the driver to get EU weight so it's comparable to other cars, which gives 1355-1380kg.

[bcr5784]

Onehp said:

I'm referring to people that put the circuit pack car on scales! P*ss all claimed figures, not very reliable! Usually...

1280-1290kg for the Yaris is gospel, focus on finding forum posts, magazine test etc that actually put the other rally heroes on scales...

Are you sure that's with a full tank? If you look here https://zeperfs.com/en/duel8589-6750.htm you will find it quotes the verified EU weight as 1385kg - take 75 off to get to DIN weight and you get 1310, which squares with the figures published by Toyota. I am prepared to believe they weighed a circuit pack car - there are hardly any standard press cars.

[bennno]

Holgate86 said:

Ron240 said:

bennno said:

To be fair I got a very, very good deal on a twin turbo amg SL that came up unexpectedly hence sale.

Pity it wasn't a very, very, very good deal and you might have been able to keep both.

Needs to have been a very, very, very, very, very good deal...when I was looking 18 months ago you could get a pre reg or super low mileage demo for £75k....not bad for a car with OTR of over £125k at the time!!

Be a great foyle to the GRY though!

Was a 65 plate used one for GR money.

[Caddyshack]

ecsrobin said:

MiseryStreak said:

bcr5784 said:

Onehp said:

Well done!

I would be very interested to find out what all these cars actually weigh, on scales. The GRY is very honest, circuit pack being 1280-1290kg with a full tank.

Toyota claim 1310 for circuit pack - 1280 for regular car. That's DIn, I believe, not EU (ie 90% full tank, no driver)

That’s not what I read. The circuit pack is 10 kg lighter than standard (1,280 kg) due to the forged wheels.

https://media.toyota.co.uk/wp-content/files_mf/160...

Toyota article Page 6 said:

The GR Yaris Circuit Pack equips the car with lightweight forged alloy wheels with highly rigid spokes. These further reduce the car’s overall weight, by 10kg.

But the 2 diffs do they add weight so that’s 10kg off the higher weight?

There are 2 diffs in the non circuit pack cars too, they are just not limited slip diffs so there would be no weight difference...the car would not get very far if the diff casings were empty on non circuit pack???

[Onehp]

Olivera said:

Toyota UK site states "KERB WEIGHT MIN/ KERB WEIGHT MAX - 1,280/1,305" https://www.toyota.co.uk/world-of-toyota/toyota-ga... then we need to add on 75kg for the driver to get EU weight so it's comparable to other cars, which gives 1355-1380kg.

Correct.

This car is bought by enthusiasts and plenty have been on the (corner weight) scales and they all are 1280-1290kg (full tank) so far. FYI.

Still interested to learn about real, weighed on scales, weights of the rally heroes of old. Kerb, full fluids and tank, no driver.

To kick it off (not final)
- Escort Cosworth 1342kg-1418kg ops: (Olivera below ; https://www.evo.co.uk/ford/focus-rs/14157/ford-foc...
- STI 22B (not the same) 1270kg (https://zeperfs.com/en/fiche363-subaru-impreza-22b.htm)
- Evo VI: surely there are good numbers out there for different versions
- HF integrale 180hp 1280kg (https://zeperfs.com/en/fiche1629-lancia-delta-hf-integrale.htm)
- Celica GT4 1475kg (https://zeperfs.com/en/fiche1304-toyota-celica-gt4.htm)

Edited by Onehp on Thursday 14th January 12:09

Edited by Onehp on Thursday 14th January 13:41

[ferrisbueller]

Evo 6 1360kg https://www.evo.co.uk/mitsubishi/lancer/evo-vi
Integrale was similar 1340kg https://www.evo.co.uk/lancia/integrale/14077/lanci...

[Onehp]

Critical is that weight is 'real' / weighed / measured and given to a standard. Factory numbers aren't as reliable as they are reported differently...

To me this is more important than 30hp here and there...