Re : Toyota GR Yaris - official!

[Olivera]

Onehp said:

- Escort Cosworth 1375kg-1418kg ops: (https://zeperfs.com/en/fiche509-ford-escort-v-rs-cosworth.htm ; https://www.evo.co.uk/ford/focus-rs/14157/ford-foc...

I had my Escort Cosworth on a weigh bridge a few months ago, in full oem trim (spare, tool kit etc), but with some upgrades that would make it heavier (larger brakes/turbo/intercooler/radiator etc, totalling maybe about 20kg), + driver (88kg), + full tank of fuel (65 kg), and it was 1450kg. So minus driver, fuel, upgrades about 1277kg.

[Bodo]

forest172 said:

MiseryStreak said:

bcr5784 said:

Onehp said:

Well done!

I would be very interested to find out what all these cars actually weigh, on scales. The GRY is very honest, circuit pack being 1280-1290kg with a full tank.

Toyota claim 1310 for circuit pack - 1280 for regular car. That's DIn, I believe, not EU (ie 90% full tank, no driver)

That’s not what I read. The circuit pack is 10 kg lighter than standard (1,280 kg) due to the forged wheels.

https://media.toyota.co.uk/wp-content/files_mf/160...

Toyota article Page 6 said:

The GR Yaris Circuit Pack equips the car with lightweight forged alloy wheels with highly rigid spokes. These further reduce the car’s overall weight, by 10kg.

wheel and tyre weigh 18.17kg

Tyre&wheel weights from here: https://www.ozgazoo.com/gr-forum/general-chat/whee...

Standard equipment:
Dunlop Maxx 050 10.2kg
Enkei (cast) wheel 10.3kg
20.5kg

Circuit Pack:
Michelin PS4 9.75kg
BBS forged wheel 8.25kg
18.0kg

delta 2.5kg*4=10kg per car

Seems the LSD are weight neutral?

[leviCV8]

For those who are interested on the Australian YouTube channel "fullboost" their video from 24th November puts a standard pack car on the scales with full tank and no driver and it clearly shows 1280kg on the video

https://youtu.be/j_4zYgdmtnI

[seawise]

Autocar are running a long term test car - black, circuit pack - Matt Prior has it. He's a very good motoring journalist in my opinion, so will be interesting to see how he gets along with it as a daily.

[Onehp]

Olivera said:

I had my Escort Cosworth on a weigh bridge a few months ago, in full oem trim (spare, tool kit etc), but with some upgrades that would make it heavier (larger brakes/turbo/intercooler/radiator etc, totalling maybe about 20kg), + driver (88kg), + full tank of fuel (65 kg), and it was 1450kg. So minus driver, fuel, upgrades about 1277kg.

Kerb is always with fuel. Also gasoline is only 0,7kg/l so 65kg is a lot of fuel...

Anyway, I'll put 1342kg then as the lower end.

[carinaman]

Regarding Shmee's wrap he could also now say it's a tribute to the recently deceased Didier Auriol?:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhxYCG2_6S4

[Olivera]

Onehp said:

Anyway, I'll put 1342kg then as the lower end.

That's probably about an accurate figure for one with a 90-100% tank of fuel. More or less the same as the Yaris, but kudos to the Yaris as it will meet the latest safety standards and has airbags etc. It therefore must be at least 150kg+ lighter than a Mk3 Focus RS and A35/45 AMG and the like.

[Holgate86]

bennno said:

Holgate86 said:

Ron240 said:

bennno said:

To be fair I got a very, very good deal on a twin turbo amg SL that came up unexpectedly hence sale.

Pity it wasn't a very, very, very good deal and you might have been able to keep both.

Needs to have been a very, very, very, very, very good deal...when I was looking 18 months ago you could get a pre reg or super low mileage demo for £75k....not bad for a car with OTR of over £125k at the time!!

Be a great foyle to the GRY though!

Was a 65 plate used one for GR money.

That's a good price, I'm going to be running a 65 plate R172 SLK55 alongside my GRY, I love a roadster for the summer but miss the interaction and manual gearbox of my Honda S2000 and S3 Elise S. I had a demo SL63 for a day when I was looking at them, to see if it fitted in the garage, poured down all day so I didn't get a chance to get the roof down or the 550 odd bhp down from the turbo version of the engine in my SLK. In the end just couldn't justify the £80k asking price.

The GRY is the perfect foyle, manual, unique, small enough to pop down to the shops, and mad enough to get me out of bed on a Sunday morning for a drive....haven't done that for a while, but I'm really looking forward to it. As an early 20 something, I had a test drive of a Vauxhall 2300 HS Chevette, always regret never buying it, and the rally vibe has never ever really left me. Roll on May!

[AlexHat]

LemonTart said:

This is quite cool, a video of the build inside the factory.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-kfmkB8vXU

That is really interesting to watch the cars come together from just the floor pan to a whole car rolling off the line

[coded2112]

carinaman said:

Regarding Shmee's wrap he could also now say it's a tribute to the recently deceased Didier Auriol?:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhxYCG2_6S4

Are you sure about Didier Auriol? I cannot find any news of him passing away?

[carinaman]

coded2112 said:

carinaman said:

Regarding Shmee's wrap he could also now say it's a tribute to the recently deceased Didier Auriol?:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhxYCG2_6S4

Are you sure about Didier Auriol? I cannot find any news of him passing away?

Indeed. It was Hubert Auriol, the Paris Dakar rider. My mistake.

Sorry Didier.

[Bigwod]

carinaman said:

Indeed. It was Hubert Auriol, the Paris Dakar rider. My mistake.

Sorry Didier.

Sacre bleu.

[anonymous-user]

AlexHat said:

LemonTart said:

This is quite cool, a video of the build inside the factory.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-kfmkB8vXU

That is really interesting to watch the cars come together from just the floor pan to a whole car rolling off the line

The same factory as this bad boy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6QeoM-PHVA

[s m]

Olivera said:

Onehp said:

Anyway, I'll put 1342kg then as the lower end.

That's probably about an accurate figure for one with a 90-100% tank of fuel. More or less the same as the Yaris, but kudos to the Yaris as it will meet the latest safety standards and has airbags etc. It therefore must be at least 150kg+ lighter than a Mk3 Focus RS and A35/45 AMG and the like.

Autocar weighed a big turbo cloth car in 1992 with half a tank of fuel, space saver spare
Weighed on the MIRA scales at 1307kg

[Onehp]

Great. More like this for the others please.

Escort Cosworth
Size of tank 55l, half 27L x 0,7kg/L = 19kg
~1325-1340kg kerb (full tank) or ~50kg more than the Yaris.

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[Olivera]

Onehp said:

Great. More like this for the others please.

Escort Cosworth
Size of tank 55l, half 27L x 0,7kg/L = 19kg
~1325-1340kg kerb (full tank) or ~50kg more than the Yaris.

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Are you comparing like for like? Does the Yaris 1280kg to 1305kg kerb weight include any fuel? Is that representative of actual customer cars?

[MiseryStreak]

DIN is EU weight -75kg
DIN weight for Yaris is 1,280 kg.
EU weight for Yaris is 1,355 kg.

The DIN weight includes 90% of the fuel tank’s capacity.

[leviCV8]

Olivera said:

Onehp said:

Great. More like this for the others please.

Escort Cosworth
Size of tank 55l, half 27L x 0,7kg/L = 19kg
~1325-1340kg kerb (full tank) or ~50kg more than the Yaris.

Next

Are you comparing like for like? Does the Yaris 1280kg to 1305kg kerb weight include any fuel? Is that representative of actual customer cars?

Have you read any of the last few pages. Literally links for videos that show the GR Yaris on a set of scales with a full fuel tank at 1280kg

[forest172]

1280kg is quite an achievement considering. My Evo 5rs without AC is meant to be 1260kg, and it feels like it’s made of tin foil in comparison

[Olivera]

leviCV8 said:

Have you read any of the last few pages. Literally links for videos that show the GR Yaris on a set of scales with a full fuel tank at 1280kg

Missed that video. Impressive result.