Toyota GR Yaris - Official! (Vol 2)

[JayK12]

Speedgelb said:

For B-road use, initial impressions of the stock setup are very positive. Track use may be another matter.

My Boxster had a suspension refresh 18 months ago - M030 / factory sports suspension spec, which is 10mm lower than standard, IE not a lot. Genuinely would not want the car any lower for the Yorkshire Dales.

Some fellow with a slammed Boxster was completely out of his depth on those roads. It looked cool, but wasn't very fast.

Feel the same principles apply to most cars. A setup that works well on track may not be good for fast B-road stuff, and vice-versa. Something that's slammed will likely be sh!t to drive regardless. "Looks cool though innit"




Seem to recall the Litchfield Nitrons had relatively low intervals between requiring rebuild / maintenance. Would be tempted to try Öhlins at their highest setting.

You can still have a low car and good handling, just depends on the suspension setup, mainly the dampers. It doesn't really have much to do with ride height unless it's bottoming out.

[ecsrobin]

JayK12 said:

You can still have a low car and good handling, just depends on the suspension setup, mainly the dampers. It doesn't really have much to do with ride height unless it's bottoming out.

Although where the Yaris shines are roads where you have the potential to bottom out on anything lowered.

[Speedgelb]

JayK12 said:

It doesn't really have much to do with ride height unless it's bottoming out.

Which is just what was happening to the slammed car on the Yorkshire Dales. It was so bad that the fellow had to forfeit part way through the run as he was feeling nauseous trying to keep up with me and the car in front

Edited by Speedgelb on Thursday 12th January 23:55

[ecsrobin]

Toyota have announced the following at Tokyo Auto Salon:

GR Yaris RZ "High-performance?Sébastien Ogier Edition Concept"
GR Yaris RZ "High-performance?Kalle Rovanperä Edition Concept"
GR YARIS Rally1 HYBRID
GR Yaris Rally2 Concept
GR YARIS GR4 Rally (Gravel specification)



Ogier:



Kalle:



https://toyotagazooracing.com/jp/eventexhibition/t...

Edited by ecsrobin on Friday 13th January 08:00

[Caddyshack]

Speedgelb said:

JayK12 said:

It doesn't really have much to do with ride height unless it's bottoming out.

Which is just what was happening to the slammed car on the Yorkshire Dales. It was so bad that the fellow had to forfeit part way through the run as he was feeling nauseous trying to keep up with me and the car in front

Edited by Speedgelb on Thursday 12th January 23:55

My Boxster S 987.1 scrapes the front really easily and it is standard ride height. I keep meaning to look at what scrapes but suspect it’s a plastic part.

[GT3Manthey]

Caddyshack said:

My Boxster S 987.1 scrapes the front really easily and it is standard ride height. I keep meaning to look at what scrapes but suspect it’s a plastic part.

I have to say after being a 911 owner for years the 987.1 boxster is one underrated car .

The handling vs a 996 or 997 is way better

[irish boy]

The string theory spring kit improves things with no discernible downside’s especially if you don’t lower it.

[Speedgelb]

Caddyshack said:

My Boxster S 987.1 scrapes the front really easily and it is standard ride height. I keep meaning to look at what scrapes but suspect it’s a plastic part.

Possibly the wheel arch "rubber lips", at the trailing edge of the bumper.

These:




Mine does it occasionally, "making progress" over crests and undulations. Used to happen more often on the original (130k mile +) suspension.

Edited by Speedgelb on Saturday 14th January 23:50

[LemonTart]

Speedgelb said:

Caddyshack said:

My Boxster S 987.1 scrapes the front really easily and it is standard ride height. I keep meaning to look at what scrapes but suspect it’s a plastic part.

Possibly the wheel arch "rubber lips", at the trailing edge of the bumper.

These:




Mine does it occasionally, "making progress" over crests and undulations. Used to happen more often on the original (130k mile +) suspension.

Edited by Speedgelb on Saturday 14th January 23:50

It’s very probably that bit, my 997.2 has the same piece, i have replaced a few of these over the years, thankfully they are pretty cheap.

[JayK12]

Speedgelb said:

JayK12 said:

It doesn't really have much to do with ride height unless it's bottoming out.

Which is just what was happening to the slammed car on the Yorkshire Dales. It was so bad that the fellow had to forfeit part way through the run as he was feeling nauseous trying to keep up with me and the car in front

Edited by Speedgelb on Thursday 12th January 23:55

Did the Yorkshire dales in my 981 Boxster GTS, some great roads. It had the X73 Spyder suspension, so 20mm lower, it was pretty low but never bottomed out. Its getting the damper/spring rate right and working well. The GR looks a long way from bottoming out, our roads around here are very undulating and the GR glides over them. I'd have no worries on lowering a GR properly, not just springs that turn it into a pogo stick lol.

[UK952]

Been over some really challenging tarmac in the GRY, Wales, Scotland and Yorkshire on standard suspension been very impressed on some horrific tarmac. Found a really rippled section through a compression in Shropshire, nearly turned around to drive it again I was so impressed! Seems pretty well judged to me for a mix of terrain but not tried any other options on it.
Tony

[Caddyshack]

Speedgelb said:

Caddyshack said:

My Boxster S 987.1 scrapes the front really easily and it is standard ride height. I keep meaning to look at what scrapes but suspect it’s a plastic part.

Possibly the wheel arch "rubber lips", at the trailing edge of the bumper.

These:




Mine does it occasionally, "making progress" over crests and undulations. Used to happen more often on the original (130k mile +) suspension.

Edited by Speedgelb on Saturday 14th January 23:50

Thanks…I have had it in the air and it is those bits (number 4)

Whilst under there I have put Oem discs and pads on the front and given it all a big clean including the front bumper off to clean between the roads etc.

I have put extensions on the rear lambdas as those can throw codes as the cats age. I am now replacing all the exhaust studs and putting in new ones with high heat copper grease as they are known to break.

Will do rear discs and pads over next few weeks.

[eugeo]

chillbill said:

If that is indeed true, sorry to hear. But at least you've got one I'm in Est.onia. The CEO of the local dealer noted, at the end of Feb., that he doesn't know how long will Toyota be making them. So yes, quite a lot of conflicting info - a lot of opinions and not enough facts.

Did your car get delivered yet? Also here in Estonia and managed to put an order in last month(!) but now they have stopped taking orders. Ordered from Elke. Hoping it will turn up!

[chillbill]

eugeo said:

Did your car get delivered yet? Also here in Estonia and managed to put an order in last month(!) but now they have stopped taking orders. Ordered from Elke. Hoping it will turn up!

Ordered last April, alleged delivery is April of this year (fingers crossed). Is your order listed on the MyT app?

[Klippie]

I've just had a look on Autotrader and there's plenty cars for sale it looks like the prices have softened a bit too, one or two really well priced vs the mileage, but there are a lot of less than 100 mile cars asking for big overs which seems nuts as its pretty clear not much is moving, the dealers around here have cars sitting from months back.

I think people sitting on the waiting list hoping for a car are living in fantasy land there are no cars available its pretty obvious, if you want a GR-Yaris just go and buy one used there's lots to choose from.

[loudlashadjuster]

Yeah, I really don’t get people who decide they really want one but are happy to sit on a speculative order that might take 18 months to materialise or might never appear, when they could go out today and buy a car with effectively delivery miles for around the same price.

Yes, there’s someone on the log book before you, but it’s the same damn car.

[rix]

Well I'm 10 months in, but committed to a replacement car already I'm afraid. The GR is incredible, but just not the right one for me and, moreso, my usage. For a 22 plate CP, advertised prices (with dealers) still seem to be at the £35k+ mark. I'm wondering what their margin generally is if I sold it back to them - mine literally needs zero prep, even the service has just been done!

[dvshannow]

rix said:

Well I'm 10 months in, but committed to a replacement car already I'm afraid. The GR is incredible, but just not the right one for me and, moreso, my usage. For a 22 plate CP, advertised prices (with dealers) still seem to be at the £35k+ mark. I'm wondering what their margin generally is if I sold it back to them - mine literally needs zero prep, even the service has just been done!

I think there will be quite a bit of similar rotation , it’s a great great car - but it is not a traditional hot hatch

And while it is limited in supply it is or that limited in the way say an M3 CSL was. The stellar reviews it got will have attracted quite a few into the experience who won’t get that much out of it long term

All healthy IMO residuals will remain strong longer term in the meantime we will see the chance for some enthusiasts to get it at more attractive pricing

I was at the super car meet at Weybridge today , a lot of car enthusiasts around the GR really is quite stealthy people either know what it is or hardly give it a second look

[Wilmslowboy]

rix said:

Well I'm 10 months in, but committed to a replacement car already I'm afraid. The GR is incredible, but just not the right one for me and, moreso, my usage. For a 22 plate CP, advertised prices (with dealers) still seem to be at the £35k+ mark. I'm wondering what their margin generally is if I sold it back to them - mine literally needs zero prep, even the service has just been done!

I sold my 22 plate (July, CP, with 6k miles, just serviced), sold last week via Motorway for £33k, add in Motoway's fees and delivery and that must be £33.5k to the dealer.

I had it listed on Autotrader, PH and Facebook for just less than I ended up selling via motorway.

Save yourself a load of time, and ring around the dealers and offer it to them (or stick it on Motorway), I had my car for at least £2k less than the next cheapest 22-plate car on Autotrader, but still no serious interest from private buyers.


Edited to add...Just checked Motorway and they dropped the estimated reserve to £32,359 (when I sold it was £33,250)

Edited by Wilmslowboy on Sunday 5th February 22:22

[rix]

Wilmslowboy said:

I sold my 22 plate (July, CP, with 6k miles, just serviced), sold last week via Motorway for £33k, add in Motoway's fees and delivery and that must be £33.5k to the dealer.

I had it listed on Autotrader, PH and Facebook for just less than I ended up selling via motorway.

Save yourself a load of time, and ring around the dealers and offer it to them (or stick it on Motorway), I had my car for at least £2k less than the next cheapest 22-plate car on Autotrader, but still no serious interest from private buyers.


Edited to add...Just checked Motorway and they upped here estimated reserve to £32,359 (when I sold it was £33,250)

Cheers - I thought maybe at 34 it would be tempting as a private sale but I won't be too disappointed if it's in the region of your experience, saving all the hassle as you say. My last couple of cars have gone via a dealer - it seems like the private market is pretty limited!