Toyota GR Yaris - Official! (Vol 2)

[Obafemi09]

GT3Manthey said:

Wonder is the seller of the Litchfield car had the full blown 8k upgrades .
If so then yes that’s a big hit

The advert for the white one on CC says that £52k has been spent on that car inclusive of Litchfield upgrades so that would suggest it's had the full works! Still 3 days to run on the auction though. There was another Litchfield car for sale recently but looks like it's gone, I think it was about £37k from memory and had circa 8k miles, black car. Not sure the exact Litchfield mods though

[ecsrobin]

Obafemi09 said:

GT3Manthey said:

Wonder is the seller of the Litchfield car had the full blown 8k upgrades .
If so then yes that’s a big hit

The advert for the white one on CC says that £52k has been spent on that car inclusive of Litchfield upgrades so that would suggest it's had the full works! Still 3 days to run on the auction though. There was another Litchfield car for sale recently but looks like it's gone, I think it was about £37k from memory and had circa 8k miles, black car. Not sure the exact Litchfield mods though

The owner was some unknown “racing driver” who spent all the money before it turned a wheel if memory serves me right then complained that he didn’t like how it handled and Toyota have done an awful job despite the fact it had been modified so it couldn’t be the modifications. And because it wasn’t like his clio race car fell out of love of it.

Think the group opinion on the Facebook group was it was his driving that was at fault. Anyone gets bored it’s on the UK owners FB.

[Unreal]

Generally speaking I think modifications reduce your market considerably. A bit like optional extras, they rarely add value. It will be interesting to see what the Litchfield car gets but if I wanted a modified car I think I'd want to choose the mods myself.

[ecsrobin]

I thought this might be useful for anyone still waiting for delivery:

Between 25 May 2021 and 24 June 2021 the VIN numbers had jumped 1,378 places, between 20 Jan 2023 and 20 Feb 2023 the VIN numbers moved 32 places! To check if this was an anomaly I then did 20 October 2022 to 20 February 2022 (a period of 4 months with Christmas / new year) and 1097 VINS /vehicles were produced / delivered or 274pm. Obviously there’s a 6-8 week disconnect between manufacturing and delivering but it reaffirms that -production has slowed down considerably.

At that current rate and taking the highest known VIN of 22456 then that’s 9 months of production left (take off 2 months for factory to dealership) so September 2023 looks to be last deliveries.

[GT3Manthey]

Unreal said:

Generally speaking I think modifications reduce your market considerably. A bit like optional extras, they rarely add value. It will be interesting to see what the Litchfield car gets but if I wanted a modified car I think I'd want to choose the mods myself.

I agree with this and we see it lots.

The vast majority just want the standard car and not something that's become so extreme it detracts from its ever day usability

[PhilPol]

GT3Manthey said:

Unreal said:

Generally speaking I think modifications reduce your market considerably. A bit like optional extras, they rarely add value. It will be interesting to see what the Litchfield car gets but if I wanted a modified car I think I'd want to choose the mods myself.

I agree with this and we see it lots.

The vast majority just want the standard car and not something that's become so extreme it detracts from its ever day usability

Certainty something labelled "stock" is more desirable, I guess its the connection made to it being from the showroom, even it it was modified to within an inch of its life and tracked hard, then returned to stock, and then put up for sale as "stock"...

If you're buying second hand it's a total lottery, not matter what the ad says.

[PhilPol]

I did end up going to Sweden, I don't think I can post videos, but here's my car on the ferry on the way to Sweden, and a shot of the first frozen lake we found by chance, which was actually a recognised winter road, hence the arrow designating which side to drive on, which we ignored as the road was 100 meters wide and there was no other traffic ...

[ecsrobin]

Looks fun. You can post YouTube videos.

[ecsrobin]

The Lichfield tuned car has sold for £36k plus fees.

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2021-toyota-gr...

Good way for the seller to lose £14k! Although I noticed in the comments he said never tracked and yet on the owners group he was complaining about how his car handled on track including photo of it at a circuit…..

[Obafemi09]

I guess you're never going to get back the full cost of any mods, but still, seems like a big hit to take if that person has spent over £52k in total.

Makes the Black one that sold last week seem even more of a bargain.

Also, poor form on the seller if he has said it's never been tracked and that is a blatant lie... not cool

[tumble dryer]

Obafemi09 said:

I guess you're never going to get back the full cost of any mods, but still, seems like a big hit to take if that person has spent over £52k in total.

Makes the Black one that sold last week seem even more of a bargain.

Also, poor form on the seller if he has said it's never been tracked and that is a blatant lie... not cool

And could come back to bite him on the arse....

[UK952]

PhilPol said:

I did end up going to Sweden, I don't think I can post videos, but here's my car on the ferry on the way to Sweden, and a shot of the first frozen lake we found by chance, which was actually a recognised winter road, hence the arrow designating which side to drive on, which we ignored as the road was 100 meters wide and there was no other traffic ...

Awesome - would love to do a trip on the frozen lakes one day!
Tony

[Caddyshack]

tumble dryer said:

Obafemi09 said:

I guess you're never going to get back the full cost of any mods, but still, seems like a big hit to take if that person has spent over £52k in total.

Makes the Black one that sold last week seem even more of a bargain.

Also, poor form on the seller if he has said it's never been tracked and that is a blatant lie... not cool

And could come back to bite him on the arse....

Could it? How would it?

I agree it is poor form though. I remember looking at a 964 RS that had been imported, the trader said it had never been tracked….I asked how he could ever know that and he said he did a lot of track days and had never seen it…..

[Speedgelb]

Caddyshack said:

Could it? How would it?

It wouldn't in a private sale. Caveat emptor.

Trade sale is another matter.

[tumble dryer]

Speedgelb said:

Caddyshack said:

Could it? How would it?

It wouldn't in a private sale. Caveat emptor.

Trade sale is another matter.

Eh, no.

Private sales carry the same onus on truthfulness.

[ChevronB19]

I am seriously tempted to spend about 33k on a white circuit pack.

Currently have an up GTi, but have had quite a lot of quick stuff in the past. Up GTi is great by the way, and it would either be a case of sell up, buy Yaris, or keep Up (ha) and buy Yaris, but latter option would require better man maths. I’d definitely want to test drive one first though. If there is anyone in Cumbria who has one and would at least give me a passenger ride in one I would be interested.

Man maths is underway, but any encouragement (whilst also mentioning any negatives) would be welcome. About 50% of even my daily driving is on B or C roads.

[Stevil]

ChevronB19 said:

I am seriously tempted to spend about 33k on a white circuit pack.

Currently have an up GTi, but have had quite a lot of quick stuff in the past. Up GTi is great by the way, and it would either be a case of sell up, buy Yaris, or keep Up (ha) and buy Yaris, but latter option would require better man maths. I’d definitely want to test drive one first though. If there is anyone in Cumbria who has one and would at least give me a passenger ride in one I would be interested.

Man maths is underway, but any encouragement (whilst also mentioning any negatives) would be welcome. About 50% of even my daily driving is on B or C roads.

Your last sentence is exactly where the car will give you its absolute best, I'd offer you a go in mine, but I'm nowhere near you unfortunately.

[elisered]

ChevronB19 said:

I am seriously tempted to spend about 33k on a white circuit pack.

Currently have an up GTi, but have had quite a lot of quick stuff in the past. Up GTi is great by the way, and it would either be a case of sell up, buy Yaris, or keep Up (ha) and buy Yaris, but latter option would require better man maths. I’d definitely want to test drive one first though. If there is anyone in Cumbria who has one and would at least give me a passenger ride in one I would be interested.

Man maths is underway, but any encouragement (whilst also mentioning any negatives) would be welcome. About 50% of even my daily driving is on B or C roads.

Had a basic Up and test driven the GTI version before I bought a JCW Mini. Now had my GRY a year. Ups are great little cars but GTI just felt like the normal car with a bigger engine to me if you know what I mean. GRY a whole lot more grown up and capable - common features are it’s small and nippy, everything else pretty much in a different league. Should be a used one at a Toyota dealer that you can have a go in I’d have thought.

[Curv3hunter]

ChevronB19 said:

I am seriously tempted to spend about 33k on a white circuit pack.

Currently have an up GTi, but have had quite a lot of quick stuff in the past. Up GTi is great by the way, and it would either be a case of sell up, buy Yaris, or keep Up (ha) and buy Yaris, but latter option would require better man maths. I’d definitely want to test drive one first though. If there is anyone in Cumbria who has one and would at least give me a passenger ride in one I would be interested.

Man maths is underway, but any encouragement (whilst also mentioning any negatives) would be welcome. About 50% of even my daily driving is on B or C roads.

I have both and they are so different I think you can justify owning both. Obviously the Yaris is significantly quicker, more planted and feels more grown up/solid. Its over double the price so I guess not surprising. There's elements of the Up Gti that I wish the Yaris had.... heated seats for one....they are awesome on the Up and we really miss them in the yaris. The standard audio in the Up is better than the standard in the Yaris.

The fact that the Up is fun and quick enough at 'not loose your license' speeds is the bonus. and is the 60 MPG. You know the Up, its a shopping trolley with cool alloys a GTi badge and bit more poke. but thats what makes it fun. No frills. Back to basics.

The Yaris is in a different league in terms of how drives.

[anonymous-user]

We looked at an UP! GTi at launch. The seats made us walk away sadly. Looked cracking otherwise.