Toyota GR Yaris - Official! (Vol 2)

[Yahonza]

Stu-nph26 said:

I sold my GR last year due to the arrival of our second baby. I'd love to get back into one soon what's the market like for these? Is it impossible to get a new car?

Very few available new but a lot with some decent mileage on them, and at a reasonable price.
To be fair it is only just run in at 20k miles, with everything working nicely/ just as it should.

[Phooey]

Yahonza said:

Very few available new but a lot with some decent mileage on them, and at a reasonable price.

There's a few private cars about now that are priced sensibly. Maybe it's time of year but a lot of GR's seem to be sticking... just looked on Autotrader and a lot of cars have been on there for weeks/months.

[Wilmslowboy]

Phooey said:

Yahonza said:

Very few available new but a lot with some decent mileage on them, and at a reasonable price.

There's a few private cars about now that are priced sensibly. Maybe it's time of year but a lot of GR's seem to be sticking... just looked on Autotrader and a lot of cars have been on there for weeks/months.

I sold my 6 month old at the start of the year for about £2k under list (to a trader), at the time they were several similar cars listed a £3k to £4K more, many of these are still listed for sale.

[Phooey]

Wilmslowboy said:

I sold my 6 month old at the start of the year for about £2k under list (to a trader), at the time they were several similar cars listed a £3k to £4K more, many of these are still listed for sale.

Yes there's a lot sticking at or around the £32k+ area, and also a few under which I'm surprised haven't sold. Maybe it's the wider economy cooling off used car sales but I always thought with the GR being a lot of car for the money (in comparison to anything else modern), plus 10yr warranty etc it might be a bit immune, or one of the last models to suffer the start of a slowdown.

[irish boy]

Yeah prices are all over the place and not moving unless sensible.

Theres a delivery mile 22 car beside me at 37.5 hasn't sold for 6 months plus. Meanwhile a dealer sticks one on at 41, and a private one also went on this week locally at 37k no offers for a 21 reg with 6.5k. Do these people do zero research at all or do they feel entitled to their profit?

[moonigan]

Mine is coming upto 3 years old and has done 9k. This is todays Auto trader valuation.

[dvshannow]

irish boy said:

Yeah prices are all over the place and not moving unless sensible.

Theres a delivery mile 22 car beside me at 37.5 hasn't sold for 6 months plus. Meanwhile a dealer sticks one on at 41, and a private one also went on this week locally at 37k no offers for a 21 reg with 6.5k. Do these people do zero research at all or do they feel entitled to their profit?

maybe they are happy to keep the car unless they get a good offer, not sure entitled is the right work for listing a weekend car at a higher price

In any case there should be a healthy supply of these as there were a decent number sold and it is a fairly compromised machine

[ecsrobin]

dvshannow said:

In any case there should be a healthy supply of these as there were a decent number sold and it is a fairly compromised machine

5,000 sold in the UK (not all delivered yet) which still isn’t many (total Ford Focus RS sales over 3 mk’s were 11,000).

You can say every car is fairy compromised just depends on your needs at the time.

[dvshannow]

ecsrobin said:

dvshannow said:

In any case there should be a healthy supply of these as there were a decent number sold and it is a fairly compromised machine

5,000 sold in the UK (not all delivered yet) which still isn’t many (total Ford Focus RS sales over 3 mk’s were 11,000).

You can say every car is fairy compromised just depends on your needs at the time.

I’m not saying it in a bad way , the GRY is more compromised than say a Golf R or even a focus RS - part of what makes it such a great car also makes it so . As people’s situations change there will be a supply.

[ecsrobin]

dvshannow said:

I’m not saying it in a bad way , the GRY is more compromised than say a Golf R or even a focus RS - part of what makes it such a great car also makes it so . As people’s situations change there will be a supply.

I’m just saying how it’s compromised depends on the owners needs. You can say the Golf R is compromised over the Yaris due to rate of theft but all depends on what you’re comparing it to.

[Phooey]

moonigan said:

Mine is coming upto 3 years old and has done 9k. This is todays Auto trader valuation.

Looks about right to get some attention. I would think the true figure for a private sale after a little haggling would be around 28-28.5k. They're not shifting at 30k+ unless ultra low miles and/or age.

[Yahonza]

ecsrobin said:

dvshannow said:

I’m not saying it in a bad way , the GRY is more compromised than say a Golf R or even a focus RS - part of what makes it such a great car also makes it so . As people’s situations change there will be a supply.

I’m just saying how it’s compromised depends on the owners needs. You can say the Golf R is compromised over the Yaris due to rate of theft but all depends on what you’re comparing it to.

I wouldn't describe it as compromised, that's the wrong description - but it is uncompromising.

This is very much a car worth buying - it really isn't like anything else.

[Zarco]

Yahonza said:

ecsrobin said:

dvshannow said:

I’m not saying it in a bad way , the GRY is more compromised than say a Golf R or even a focus RS - part of what makes it such a great car also makes it so . As people’s situations change there will be a supply.

I’m just saying how it’s compromised depends on the owners needs. You can say the Golf R is compromised over the Yaris due to rate of theft but all depends on what you’re comparing it to.

I wouldn't describe it as compromised, that's the wrong description - but it is uncompromising.

This is very much a car worth buying - it really isn't like anything else.

Golf R is compromised by being too sensible.

[dvshannow]

Zarco said:

Yahonza said:

ecsrobin said:

dvshannow said:

I’m not saying it in a bad way , the GRY is more compromised than say a Golf R or even a focus RS - part of what makes it such a great car also makes it so . As people’s situations change there will be a supply.

I’m just saying how it’s compromised depends on the owners needs. You can say the Golf R is compromised over the Yaris due to rate of theft but all depends on what you’re comparing it to.

I wouldn't describe it as compromised, that's the wrong description - but it is uncompromising.

This is very much a car worth buying - it really isn't like anything else.

Golf R is compromised by being too sensible.

Agreed , I have a GRY and with no intent to sell 😄

[Unreal]

I think you'll wait some time to see a mint low mileage one sell for much below its list price. Too rare, too highly rated, unlikely to be bettered, 10 year warranty etc.

High mileage, damaged, patchy history, modified - different story.

[ecsrobin]

Unreal said:

I think you'll wait some time to see a mint low mileage one sell for much below its list price. Too rare, too highly rated, unlikely to be bettered, 10 year warranty etc.

High mileage, damaged, patchy history, modified - different story.

Although the longer you wait the less of the 10 year warranty there is.

[dvshannow]

DriveSnowdonia said:

Unreal said:

I think you'll wait some time to see a mint low mileage one sell for much below its list price. Too rare, too highly rated, unlikely to be bettered, 10 year warranty etc.

High mileage, damaged, patchy history, modified - different story.

To be fair there are around 5,000 in the UK so not that rare. Must see one or two a week round here in Wales.

In comparison to other cult rare or limited run cars when new, then BMW 1M was around 400 cars in the UK, Original Audi RS2 around 180, B5 RS4 around 400, Clio Trophy around 480, Clio Williams around 1.1k, Mk1 Focus RS 1.9k, Subaru Impreza Turbo RB5 approx 400, Honda Integra R approx 1.5k, latest Toyota GT4 perhaps 200, Lancia Delta Integrale EVO, estimated at 500. All, bar perhaps the BMW were much lauded but have still suffered from substantial depreciation in their time.

But perhaps today's market is rather different? Or perhaps the last few years have been very unusual with supply shortages meaning that many second hand vehicles have risen in price? Perhaps the amazing finance deals for the GRY attracted way more initial demand than would otherwise have occurred in the past?

Not knocking the GRY, but the amount of very low mileage cars currently for sale implies that many are not keeping them for that long. Perhaps off to scratch another itch? Would be good to understand why.

It’s testimony to how great a car it is that such a niece car could sell 5k units so easily , only natural to see some turnover user

Will be a while before looked after examples become worth a lot

But as a way to run a sports car from new for 10y under warranty and have a decent end of tenure value it should work very well

[Yahonza]

DriveSnowdonia said:

To be fair there are around 5,000 in the UK so not that rare. Must see one or two a week round here in Wales.

Not knocking the GRY, but the amount of very low mileage cars currently for sale implies that many are not keeping them for that long. Perhaps off to scratch another itch? Would be good to understand why.

There are a dozen or very low mileage <1000 miles GRY for sale at present, including the £60k one.

[Unreal]

DriveSnowdonia said:

Unreal said:

I think you'll wait some time to see a mint low mileage one sell for much below its list price. Too rare, too highly rated, unlikely to be bettered, 10 year warranty etc.

High mileage, damaged, patchy history, modified - different story.

To be fair there are around 5,000 in the UK so not that rare. Must see one or two a week round here in Wales.

In comparison to other cult rare or limited run cars when new, then BMW 1M was around 400 cars in the UK, Original Audi RS2 around 180, B5 RS4 around 400, Clio Trophy around 480, Clio Williams around 1.1k, Mk1 Focus RS 1.9k, Subaru Impreza Turbo RB5 approx 400, Honda Integra R approx 1.5k, latest Toyota GT4 perhaps 200, Lancia Delta Integrale EVO, estimated at 500. All, bar perhaps the BMW were much lauded but have still suffered from substantial depreciation in their time.

But perhaps today's market is rather different? Or perhaps the last few years have been very unusual with supply shortages meaning that many second hand vehicles have risen in price? Perhaps the amazing finance deals for the GRY attracted way more initial demand than would otherwise have occurred in the past?

Not knocking the GRY, but the amount of very low mileage cars currently for sale implies that many are not keeping them for that long. Perhaps off to scratch another itch? Would be good to understand why.

Many sportscars have lots of owners. Owners do scratch an itch, keep a car for a year or less and move on to the next one.

[ecsrobin]

DriveSnowdonia said:

Good point, but I do wonder if the mileages on some of these are genuine? Many seem suspiciously low.

When you’ve got the money for a toy you’ve also got the money to do better things than use the toy.