Toyota GR Yaris - Official! (Vol 2)

Toyota GR Yaris - Official! (Vol 2)

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dvshannow

1,581 posts

137 months

Saturday 12th August 2023
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ecsrobin said:
DriveSnowdonia said:
Good point, but I do wonder if the mileages on some of these are genuine? Many seem suspiciously low.
When you’ve got the money for a toy you’ve also got the money to do better things than use the toy.
Maybe not better , money does not = time sadly

Kawasicki

13,091 posts

236 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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Unreal said:
It's short and relatively fat. Mine has just gone into semi-hibernation and it was just as tight getting into an 80s garage as the R230 Merc that will be subbing for it while the weather is nice. Only a couple of inches, if that, to the door frames either side of the extended mirrors, so closer than you'd like.

On a separate note I have a radar recall. Anyone else had that?
The R230 has, to the mm, the same length wheelbase as the Yaris.

Unreal

3,420 posts

26 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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Kawasicki said:
Unreal said:
It's short and relatively fat. Mine has just gone into semi-hibernation and it was just as tight getting into an 80s garage as the R230 Merc that will be subbing for it while the weather is nice. Only a couple of inches, if that, to the door frames either side of the extended mirrors, so closer than you'd like.

On a separate note I have a radar recall. Anyone else had that?
The R230 has, to the mm, the same length wheelbase as the Yaris.
Not quite sure what point you're trying to make or what the wheelbase measurement has to do with anything.

The Yaris is about a half metre shorter than the R230. When parking in an 80s garage the only dimensions that matter are overall width and length.



fuzzymonkey

408 posts

226 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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I'm seeing a few cars that are for sale for about 29K. Is the market starting to re-adjust yet?

Unreal

3,420 posts

26 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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fuzzymonkey said:
I'm seeing a few cars that are for sale for about 29K. Is the market starting to re-adjust yet?
What do you mean by re-adjust? Re-adjust to what?

loudlashadjuster

5,130 posts

185 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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fuzzymonkey said:
I'm seeing a few cars that are for sale for about 29K. Is the market starting to re-adjust yet?
The oldest cars are getting on for three years old. I think depreciation has to be expected at some point.

Save Ferris

2,686 posts

214 months

Monday 14th August 2023
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loudlashadjuster said:
fuzzymonkey said:
I'm seeing a few cars that are for sale for about 29K. Is the market starting to re-adjust yet?
The oldest cars are getting on for three years old. I think depreciation has to be expected at some point.
It feels like there are more cars than buyers for them at moment, leading to the sub £30K examples becoming more common.

bencollins4

1,103 posts

207 months

Monday 14th August 2023
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loudlashadjuster said:
fuzzymonkey said:
I'm seeing a few cars that are for sale for about 29K. Is the market starting to re-adjust yet?
The oldest cars are getting on for three years old. I think depreciation has to be expected at some point.
Not just getting older, they’re doing more miles too. One of them has nearly 50k on - it’s not going to hold its value regardless of mileage.

Yahonza

1,626 posts

31 months

Monday 14th August 2023
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bencollins4 said:
loudlashadjuster said:
fuzzymonkey said:
I'm seeing a few cars that are for sale for about 29K. Is the market starting to re-adjust yet?
The oldest cars are getting on for three years old. I think depreciation has to be expected at some point.
Not just getting older, they’re doing more miles too. One of them has nearly 50k on - it’s not going to hold its value regardless of mileage.
It will be reliable as well, much better put together and engineered car than many others.

Brainpox

4,056 posts

152 months

Thursday 17th August 2023
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I'd like a red Circuit Pack but can't stretch to £30k+. There's quite a few on Autotrader that have been up since June. I'm hoping prices start coming down now the initial hype has passed a bit.

ecsrobin

17,129 posts

166 months

Thursday 17th August 2023
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Brainpox said:
I'd like a red Circuit Pack but can't stretch to £30k+. There's quite a few on Autotrader that have been up since June. I'm hoping prices start coming down now the initial hype has passed a bit.
I’ve said it for a while now but when Toyota finally officially say production is finished then prices might rise as people realise they can’t get hold of a new one so I think it will be a few years or high mileage older cars that will fall into your price bracket for the foreseeable.

Brainpox

4,056 posts

152 months

Thursday 17th August 2023
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ecsrobin said:
Brainpox said:
I'd like a red Circuit Pack but can't stretch to £30k+. There's quite a few on Autotrader that have been up since June. I'm hoping prices start coming down now the initial hype has passed a bit.
I’ve said it for a while now but when Toyota finally officially say production is finished then prices might rise as people realise they can’t get hold of a new one so I think it will be a few years or high mileage older cars that will fall into your price bracket for the foreseeable.
You are probably right. I don't mind mileage, it would be a daily so I prefer going for a higher mileage car anyway, but I think prices will be more than I'd like for a fair while yet.

BevR

684 posts

144 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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ecsrobin said:
I’ve said it for a while now but when Toyota finally officially say production is finished then prices might rise as people realise they can’t get hold of a new one so I think it will be a few years or high mileage older cars that will fall into your price bracket for the foreseeable.
For those of us still waiting for cars it feels like production has finished already! I havent called my dealer for a while but rumblings on the GR forum are pushing November delivery dates for KB orders. My KB6 order still hasn't got a confirmed build date.

BIRMA

3,810 posts

195 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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I popped along to a specialist car dealer in Eastleigh to have a look at a white GR they had two other very low mileage examples for sale too, I was surprised when looking at Autotrader that there were over 100 for sale. I'm thinking of getting one but wonder if I should hold out for a while longer to see if the prices may drop. It seems £34-35 K for a low mileage example is the norm. I've made a few offers on others but perhaps I'm offering too low.

Unreal

3,420 posts

26 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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BIRMA said:
I popped along to a specialist car dealer in Eastleigh to have a look at a white GR they had two other very low mileage examples for sale too, I was surprised when looking at Autotrader that there were over 100 for sale. I'm thinking of getting one but wonder if I should hold out for a while longer to see if the prices may drop. It seems £34-35 K for a low mileage example is the norm. I've made a few offers on others but perhaps I'm offering too low.
There were obviously flippers but a lot of these cars are hobby cars owned by people who really don't need to sell. Factor in the two price rises and the continued hype/praise and there's no pressure to sell cheaply. There's even an expectation in some quarters that prices will rise. I don't pretend to know but my best guess is that prices will stay very high and close to list for the best cars.

What sort of offers are you putting in for what level of car - ie, mileage, age, colour, pack, history?



BIRMA

3,810 posts

195 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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Unreal said:
BIRMA said:
I popped along to a specialist car dealer in Eastleigh to have a look at a white GR they had two other very low mileage examples for sale too, I was surprised when looking at Autotrader that there were over 100 for sale. I'm thinking of getting one but wonder if I should hold out for a while longer to see if the prices may drop. It seems £34-35 K for a low mileage example is the norm. I've made a few offers on others but perhaps I'm offering too low.
There were obviously flippers but a lot of these cars are hobby cars owned by people who really don't need to sell. Factor in the two price rises and the continued hype/praise and there's no pressure to sell cheaply. There's even an expectation in some quarters that prices will rise. I don't pretend to know but my best guess is that prices will stay very high and close to list for the best cars.

What sort of offers are you putting in for what level of car - ie, mileage, age, colour, pack, history?
I've only looked at circuit spec cars, most I've looked at are well below 10K, can't decide on colour but so far have seen all three colours so would be more interested in what sort of deal I could get.
I've mostly offered £1.5K below the asking price as I'd be a cash buyer but as I found when I bought my RCF cash means nothing these days.

Unreal

3,420 posts

26 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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BIRMA said:
Unreal said:
BIRMA said:
I popped along to a specialist car dealer in Eastleigh to have a look at a white GR they had two other very low mileage examples for sale too, I was surprised when looking at Autotrader that there were over 100 for sale. I'm thinking of getting one but wonder if I should hold out for a while longer to see if the prices may drop. It seems £34-35 K for a low mileage example is the norm. I've made a few offers on others but perhaps I'm offering too low.
There were obviously flippers but a lot of these cars are hobby cars owned by people who really don't need to sell. Factor in the two price rises and the continued hype/praise and there's no pressure to sell cheaply. There's even an expectation in some quarters that prices will rise. I don't pretend to know but my best guess is that prices will stay very high and close to list for the best cars.

What sort of offers are you putting in for what level of car - ie, mileage, age, colour, pack, history?
I've only looked at circuit spec cars, most I've looked at are well below 10K, can't decide on colour but so far have seen all three colours so would be more interested in what sort of deal I could get.
I've mostly offered £1.5K below the asking price as I'd be a cash buyer but as I found when I bought my RCF cash means nothing these days.
I think cash is only attractive to some private sellers nowadays. £1.5K off an asking price of £34K-£35K doesn't sound that unreasonable but if the net receipt is going to be below ££30k I think you'll really struggle with getting a sub 10K miles car.

loudlashadjuster

5,130 posts

185 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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Unreal said:
I think cash is only attractive to some private sellers nowadays. £1.5K off an asking price of £34K-£35K doesn't sound that unreasonable but if the net receipt is going to be below ££30k I think you'll really struggle with getting a sub 10K miles car.
Yeah, you'd likely be better off offering that price but saying you'll take their finance. The dealer will rub their hands at the thought of the juicy commission and ink the deal, you pay it off within hours of collecting the car, won't cost you a penny.

BIRMA

3,810 posts

195 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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loudlashadjuster said:
Unreal said:
I think cash is only attractive to some private sellers nowadays. £1.5K off an asking price of £34K-£35K doesn't sound that unreasonable but if the net receipt is going to be below ££30k I think you'll really struggle with getting a sub 10K miles car.
Yeah, you'd likely be better off offering that price but saying you'll take their finance. The dealer will rub their hands at the thought of the juicy commission and ink the deal, you pay it off within hours of collecting the car, won't cost you a penny.
I'm not too fussed about getting one straight away to be honest, and thought I'd just check the market so may well hold out and see.

ecsrobin

17,129 posts

166 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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BIRMA said:
I've only looked at circuit spec cars, most I've looked at are well below 10K, can't decide on colour but so far have seen all three colours so would be more interested in what sort of deal I could get.
I've mostly offered £1.5K below the asking price as I'd be a cash buyer but as I found when I bought my RCF cash means nothing these days.
There’s 4 colours wink