Alpine A110 owners

[iKenndac]

AlexNJ89 said:

Am I right in saying the only difference between these two is essentially ... the seats?

No, there's more to it.

- Upgraded brakes.
- Upgraded power.
- Upgraded exhaust.
- Upgraded seats.
- Upgraded audio system.
- Various little trim details.

Edited by iKenndac on Wednesday 24th November 11:09

[resolve10]

AlexNJ89 said:

Am I right in saying the only difference between these two is essentially ... the seats?

Seems an insane way to spend £10k

The new GT has the same power (296bhp) as the S model, and it comes with the sports exhaust as standard too. The Pure looks like a bargain in comparision to the GT and S models though, I agree.

[bcr5784]

AlexNJ89 said:

Am I right in saying the only difference between these two is essentially ... the seats?

Seems an insane way to spend £10k

No you get quite a few bits and bobs - audio, sports exhaust, big brakes etc. I'd have to check to see if it's a good deal, but it's not the rip-off you imply. It would be the car for me - except they won't let you specify the bucket seats.

[AlexNJ89]

resolve10 said:

The new GT has the same power (296bhp) as the S model.

Ooooh, so the regular A110 didn't get the power upgrade?

[resolve10]

AlexNJ89 said:

Ooooh, so the regular A110 didn't get the power upgrade?

Nope

A110 - 249bhp - 'comfort' suspension
A110 GT - 296bhp - 'comfort' suspension
A110 S - 296bhp - sport suspension

[iKenndac]

leglessAlex said:

I’ve been chatting to Adam at Winchester, he’s going to get me a price and order a head unit for me when he can, probably sometime in the next few months when the cars start being built.

I’ll do what research I can, but I’d be staggered if the official line on reverse compatibility is anything other than “non”. I’m still happy to order one and find out for myself.

Alright, so this morning I emailed the Alpine salesman at my local dealer asking about this. I just got a reply:

My Alpine dealer said:

About the software, as I got the information about it before the reveal, I asked the question directly.
But the answer is no
The older models can not be upgraded to the new infotainment system.

So it looks like the official line is indeed "no".

[Gyroo]

Well that’s the button pushed and my order for an S rolling again! I went for the orange with titanium Fuchs. Standard interior, no wing (££).

Heard back straight away. Orders won’t be processed till Monday. First production to order in January, delivery in March. So no time penalty from putting the order on hold and waiting for the S2. Only £500 increase from my earlier S1 spec but now no carbon roof or carbon seats…

[Coilover]

iKenndac said:

So it looks like the official line is indeed "no".

Well THAT sucks!

[leglessAlex]

Coilover said:

iKenndac said:

So it looks like the official line is indeed "no".

Well THAT sucks!

Not surprising, there will be extra hardware needed (an authentication chip) for the CarPlay as has been talked about, so unless it was built in and dormant (staggeringly unlikely) then it was always going to require a complete change of head unit.

I'm very very curious to know what the changes are, there might be aerial issues (if they've improved that for DAB) and possibly port issues, but other than that it should be plug and play. I'll find out when I get it I guess!

[domrusty]

Overall, I think the new lineup makes a lot sense:

• Entry level bare bones A110 - the original ‘Pure’
• GT - pricier, more luxury & power, for the road
• S - track-oriented, range of options to suit everything from occasional to regular / mostly track use

Personally I wouldn’t be ordering the S or the splitter / rear wing because it’s a daily drive for me, but I can see that this lineup probably is a better match for the typical types of customer usage.

And you can still customise each model, to a reasonable degree…

[Miserablegit]

Interesting that it seems the “spare” switch on the right hand side is now used to turn on and off the display.
It’s a “false” switch in the PE and Id hoped it was for a retrofit machine gun

[Hoofty]

leglessAlex said:

Coilover said:

iKenndac said:

So it looks like the official line is indeed "no".

Well THAT sucks!

Not surprising, there will be extra hardware needed (an authentication chip) for the CarPlay as has been talked about, so unless it was built in and dormant (staggeringly unlikely) then it was always going to require a complete change of head unit.

I'm very very curious to know what the changes are, there might be aerial issues (if they've improved that for DAB) and possibly port issues, but other than that it should be plug and play. I'll find out when I get it I guess!

I suspect it's entirely possible (with some degree of outlay and difficulty), but kinda understandable they wouldn't make it available as retrofit. Given some among us might* renew our car to get it, they'd be missing out on a number of future orders. If they ever concede on it, I'd expect that not to happen for a good while yet.

*I don't want to, but this was supposed to be a lifer, and it's already outdated in one area.

[Coilover]

leglessAlex said:

Not surprising, there will be extra hardware needed (an authentication chip) for the CarPlay as has been talked about, so unless it was built in and dormant (staggeringly unlikely) then it was always going to require a complete change of head unit.

I'm very very curious to know what the changes are, there might be aerial issues (if they've improved that for DAB) and possibly port issues, but other than that it should be plug and play. I'll find out when I get it I guess!

You use Martins at Winchester don’t you? Let me know.

[Portti]

Looking at this "New" A110 from the perspective of Pure/Legende it seems like the following has happened:

- Price increase of 1,100 EUR on the Pure/A110 (German pricelist)
- As far as I can see the only difference in Pure/A110 specs is the Android Auto/Apple CarPlay capability
- Slight increase on the options prices across the board (fox example Blue Alpine colour from 1,785 EUR to 1,840 EUR, parking sensors + camera from 1,190 EUR to 1,220 EUR).

- The Comfort Package which would take the "New" A110 close to what the old Legende was would take the "New" A110 to 62,980 EUR in Germany which is 1,130 EUR price increase compared to the old Legende.

[resolve10]

Portti said:

Looking at this "New" A110 from the perspective of Pure/Legende it seems like the following has happened:

- Price increase of 1,100 EUR on the Pure/A110 (German pricelist)
- As far as I can see the only difference in Pure/A110 specs is the Android Auto/Apple CarPlay capability
- Slight increase on the options prices across the board (fox example Blue Alpine colour from 1,785 EUR to 1,840 EUR, parking sensors + camera from 1,190 EUR to 1,220 EUR).

- The Comfort Package which would take the "New" A110 close to what the old Legende was would take the "New" A110 to 62,980 EUR in Germany which is 1,130 EUR price increase compared to the old Legende.

The optional sports exhaust on the Pure seems to have come down in price. It's now £1,380, I'm sure it was previously over £1,400 but can't rememver the exact figure.

[astage]

It's the same price. £1380 on the Sept 2021 UK price list (€1488 on the German Sept price list)

[Portti]

astage said:

It's the same price. £1380 on the Sept 2021 UK price list (€1488 on the German Sept price list)

There seems to be slight increase on the Sports exhaust price in Germany from 1,488 EUR to 1,520 EUR.

[astage]

Specifying a new GT model up to the same accessories/options as my Légende that is due to arrive next week will have, works out at an extra £3000 - which would have been far more than I could have afforded.
Interestingly, specifying a basic new A110 up to the same options appears to come in about £1000 less than my Légende will cost. Only item I couldn't add in was the Telemetrics.
But, all in all, I'm not too unhappy. The new infotainment would have been nice, but I doubt I would have ever used the extra BHP.

[Reggid85]

So, if I have a Legende on order for delivery in spring 2022, does that mean I get the GT, or a Pure optioned up to the same spec? In theory no difference except for power hike.

Just that the Autocar update said the Legende is now the GT. Quite a price difference, so in theory I have saved quite a bit?

[Mannginger]

iKenndac said:

So it looks like the official line is indeed "no".

Yeah I asked Gavin (Orpington and London West) and he said that Paris have said no, the technological gap is too high between both multimedia systems. I did ask a follow up question about whether the Hardware could be switched and if Alpine would offer the new power map and retain warranty (I'm assuming the answer will be no but no harm in asking!