Alpine A110 owners
Discussion
bcr5784 said:
Simon Owen said:
Just checked and doesn't appear live with the ignition off.
Looks like I will have to hard wire, I did have a go this afternoon but it wasn't quite as simple as I imagined so need a bit more time !!
Did you plug the charger in and switch it on? The Porsche one goes off too if it doesn't detect a charger (12v source)Looks like I will have to hard wire, I did have a go this afternoon but it wasn't quite as simple as I imagined so need a bit more time !!
Venisonpie said:
I test drove a Pure with big brakes but bought a Legende with standard brakes (got a good deal on a stock car). I loved the big brakes for feel and performance but as I won't track it decided the standard ones would be ok - they are. They're more than adequate for road use they just need a good shove, certainly not poor by any standard.
The pricing is interesting, there are normally only 3 or 4 used under 50k regardless of spec and seem to be holding up well. A lot of dealers are now seeing fresh (new) stock coming through and have managed to sell out their previous stuff however you might find a dealer with something unregistered that's been sat for a while. If so a cheeky offer can prove worthwhile..
When you say a good price, what sort of discount are you talking about. Is 10% crazy to ask? basically the price of the options on a pure I'm considering.The pricing is interesting, there are normally only 3 or 4 used under 50k regardless of spec and seem to be holding up well. A lot of dealers are now seeing fresh (new) stock coming through and have managed to sell out their previous stuff however you might find a dealer with something unregistered that's been sat for a while. If so a cheeky offer can prove worthwhile..
Frada01 said:
Venisonpie said:
I test drove a Pure with big brakes but bought a Legende with standard brakes (got a good deal on a stock car). I loved the big brakes for feel and performance but as I won't track it decided the standard ones would be ok - they are. They're more than adequate for road use they just need a good shove, certainly not poor by any standard.
The pricing is interesting, there are normally only 3 or 4 used under 50k regardless of spec and seem to be holding up well. A lot of dealers are now seeing fresh (new) stock coming through and have managed to sell out their previous stuff however you might find a dealer with something unregistered that's been sat for a while. If so a cheeky offer can prove worthwhile..
When you say a good price, what sort of discount are you talking about. Is 10% crazy to ask? basically the price of the options on a pure I'm considering.The pricing is interesting, there are normally only 3 or 4 used under 50k regardless of spec and seem to be holding up well. A lot of dealers are now seeing fresh (new) stock coming through and have managed to sell out their previous stuff however you might find a dealer with something unregistered that's been sat for a while. If so a cheeky offer can prove worthwhile..
My recent deal.
Showroom Legende, list price 54k
Negotiated to 50k
24 mth PCP @ 6000 miles
10k in
275 p/m
4.9% apr not great but liked that the risk of potential falling used values (cv19 impact) was with the finance company and not me.
Ammortised 691 per month.
Simon Owen said:
No just tried to charge my mobile via a USB cig lighter socket I have, I will try this properly with the CTEK charging adaptor tomorrow, plug the charger in and see what happens ??
Apparently JonT has tried it with both Ctek and Maypole via the 12V outlet - and neither works. Pity.Venisonpie said:
I posted this a bit further back in the thread, deal done in September. A lot of the stock that was around then had probably been there since March due to lockdown and with the factory coming back to life there my have been a motivation to sell what was sat about.
My recent deal.
Showroom Legende, list price 54k
Negotiated to 50k
24 mth PCP @ 6000 miles
10k in
275 p/m
4.9% apr not great but liked that the risk of potential falling used values (cv19 impact) was with the finance company and not me.
Ammortised 691 per month.
thats a good deal. Maybe I need to wait for the next national lockdown to finish. Can I ask which dealership. ?My recent deal.
Showroom Legende, list price 54k
Negotiated to 50k
24 mth PCP @ 6000 miles
10k in
275 p/m
4.9% apr not great but liked that the risk of potential falling used values (cv19 impact) was with the finance company and not me.
Ammortised 691 per month.
Frada01 said:
thats a good deal. Maybe I need to wait for the next national lockdown to finish. Can I ask which dealership. ?
Sure, Acton (West London).Looking on Autotrader there are several stock cars around the 55k mark. If I was buying now these are the ones I'd be enquiring about. Supplier might do a deal to add to 2020 figures. I bought a Cayman on the last weekend before Xmas a few years ago and got 11% off a stock car.
Venisonpie said:
Sure, Acton (West London).
Looking on Autotrader there are several stock cars around the 55k mark. If I was buying now these are the ones I'd be enquiring about. Supplier might do a deal to add to 2020 figures. I bought a Cayman on the last weekend before Xmas a few years ago and got 11% off a stock car.
Thanks,Looking on Autotrader there are several stock cars around the 55k mark. If I was buying now these are the ones I'd be enquiring about. Supplier might do a deal to add to 2020 figures. I bought a Cayman on the last weekend before Xmas a few years ago and got 11% off a stock car.
Maybe I'll put in a cheeky offer.
Frada01 said:
Venisonpie said:
Sure, Acton (West London).
Looking on Autotrader there are several stock cars around the 55k mark. If I was buying now these are the ones I'd be enquiring about. Supplier might do a deal to add to 2020 figures. I bought a Cayman on the last weekend before Xmas a few years ago and got 11% off a stock car.
Thanks,Looking on Autotrader there are several stock cars around the 55k mark. If I was buying now these are the ones I'd be enquiring about. Supplier might do a deal to add to 2020 figures. I bought a Cayman on the last weekend before Xmas a few years ago and got 11% off a stock car.
Maybe I'll put in a cheeky offer.
You can of course settle the finance agreement at anytime using cash or other funds if this is what you would prefer but you still end up with the better deal.
Venisonpie said:
No worries, you're probably aware but it often helps in negotiations like this to take the PCP offer as the dealer earns from this. They will be more likely to move on the cap cost as a result.
You can of course settle the finance agreement at anytime using cash or other funds if this is what you would prefer but you still end up with the better deal.
PCP is the plan You can of course settle the finance agreement at anytime using cash or other funds if this is what you would prefer but you still end up with the better deal.
So emailed out to a few dealers to see if there is any interest in discounting stock new cars, Nothing? I believe they have all been bound by Alpine to not discount new cars. This tactic is purley to keep used cars (demo car) prices artificially high. Lets see what happens when cars start coming back from the PCP deals. The best offers seem to be dealer demo cars but these have little money off new prices? Why you would buy a car thats 5k off list that is not your chosen spec and certainly not sympathetically run in.
These are not limited cars, PE excluded, so not sure why values should be so inflated. This is not a collector car either. The only limiting fact is people aren't buying them in numbers in the UK.
The finance deals are pretty crap on new cars. 4.9 APR is well above many other brands, and used at 6.9-9% APR? And people are surprised you don't see many cars on the road!
I'm a little annoyed considering the current climate, to the extent I've decided to put a deposit down on a GR Yaris. Not interested in keeping it long so the two year PCP deal at 0% APR works for me. Not bothered about the depreciation although it may not be that bad. Time will tell. Maybe by the time the GR goes back there will be some examples of the a110 at a realistic price or a brand new option with better PCP deals.
These are not limited cars, PE excluded, so not sure why values should be so inflated. This is not a collector car either. The only limiting fact is people aren't buying them in numbers in the UK.
The finance deals are pretty crap on new cars. 4.9 APR is well above many other brands, and used at 6.9-9% APR? And people are surprised you don't see many cars on the road!
I'm a little annoyed considering the current climate, to the extent I've decided to put a deposit down on a GR Yaris. Not interested in keeping it long so the two year PCP deal at 0% APR works for me. Not bothered about the depreciation although it may not be that bad. Time will tell. Maybe by the time the GR goes back there will be some examples of the a110 at a realistic price or a brand new option with better PCP deals.
Frada01 said:
So emailed out to a few dealers to see if there is any interest in discounting stock new cars, Nothing? I believe they have all been bound by Alpine to not discount new cars. This tactic is purley to keep used cars (demo car) prices artificially high. Lets see what happens when cars start coming back from the PCP deals. The best offers seem to be dealer demo cars but these have little money off new prices? Why you would buy a car thats 5k off list that is not your chosen spec and certainly not sympathetically run in.
These are not limited cars, PE excluded, so not sure why values should be so inflated. This is not a collector car either. The only limiting fact is people aren't buying them in numbers in the UK.
The finance deals are pretty crap on new cars. 4.9 APR is well above many other brands, and used at 6.9-9% APR? And people are surprised you don't see many cars on the road!
I'm a little annoyed considering the current climate, to the extent I've decided to put a deposit down on a GR Yaris. Not interested in keeping it long so the two year PCP deal at 0% APR works for me. Not bothered about the depreciation although it may not be that bad. Time will tell. Maybe by the time the GR goes back there will be some examples of the a110 at a realistic price or a brand new option with better PCP deals.
I was in a similar position and in fact had a £500 deposit on the GR subject to a test drive. GR wasn’t for us so decided A110. We secured a 12% saving on list for an 11 month old car with sub 3k miles, given the limited stock we were happy with that as car was perfect spec. Had a couple of options on the go at decision time and spookily all were round about the 12% saving for anything from 3-11 months old.These are not limited cars, PE excluded, so not sure why values should be so inflated. This is not a collector car either. The only limiting fact is people aren't buying them in numbers in the UK.
The finance deals are pretty crap on new cars. 4.9 APR is well above many other brands, and used at 6.9-9% APR? And people are surprised you don't see many cars on the road!
I'm a little annoyed considering the current climate, to the extent I've decided to put a deposit down on a GR Yaris. Not interested in keeping it long so the two year PCP deal at 0% APR works for me. Not bothered about the depreciation although it may not be that bad. Time will tell. Maybe by the time the GR goes back there will be some examples of the a110 at a realistic price or a brand new option with better PCP deals.
Good luck with the GR, very interesting car
Frada01 said:
So emailed out to a few dealers to see if there is any interest in discounting stock new cars, Nothing? I believe they have all been bound by Alpine to not discount new cars. This tactic is purley to keep used cars (demo car) prices artificially high. Lets see what happens when cars start coming back from the PCP deals. The best offers seem to be dealer demo cars but these have little money off new prices? Why you would buy a car thats 5k off list that is not your chosen spec and certainly not sympathetically run in.
These are not limited cars, PE excluded, so not sure why values should be so inflated. This is not a collector car either. The only limiting fact is people aren't buying them in numbers in the UK.
The finance deals are pretty crap on new cars. 4.9 APR is well above many other brands, and used at 6.9-9% APR? And people are surprised you don't see many cars on the road!
I'm a little annoyed considering the current climate, to the extent I've decided to put a deposit down on a GR Yaris. Not interested in keeping it long so the two year PCP deal at 0% APR works for me. Not bothered about the depreciation although it may not be that bad. Time will tell. Maybe by the time the GR goes back there will be some examples of the a110 at a realistic price or a brand new option with better PCP deals.
It seems the dealers are a bit more bullish than they were a few months ago. These are not limited cars, PE excluded, so not sure why values should be so inflated. This is not a collector car either. The only limiting fact is people aren't buying them in numbers in the UK.
The finance deals are pretty crap on new cars. 4.9 APR is well above many other brands, and used at 6.9-9% APR? And people are surprised you don't see many cars on the road!
I'm a little annoyed considering the current climate, to the extent I've decided to put a deposit down on a GR Yaris. Not interested in keeping it long so the two year PCP deal at 0% APR works for me. Not bothered about the depreciation although it may not be that bad. Time will tell. Maybe by the time the GR goes back there will be some examples of the a110 at a realistic price or a brand new option with better PCP deals.
Frustrating as that is the flipside is strong residuals mean they're a good place to put your money. List prices have increased in Q4 and I suspect will do so again next year holding up used values.
I don't want to turn this thread into a finance obsessed place but for whatever reason new sales are relatively low should mean low depreciation.
Anyway, it sounds like the Yaris is a cracking car so not a bad outcome.
I don't see why they should be discounting; there's still, I believe, a reasonably long wait for a new order car, used values remain high, and Alpine seem to be happy with how many they sell.
Significant discounts up front just hurt residuals and brand image. From the Alpine US presentation it doesn't look like the margins are huge, so discounting just doesn't make sense.
A fine choice with the Yaris though - I've yet to try one but I see the appeal. If they did one in blue...
Significant discounts up front just hurt residuals and brand image. From the Alpine US presentation it doesn't look like the margins are huge, so discounting just doesn't make sense.
A fine choice with the Yaris though - I've yet to try one but I see the appeal. If they did one in blue...
I am pleased to see that Alpine are not discounting new cars. It means they are keen to see the brand develop as a premium brand which means limiting supply and ensuring residual values are strong.
There are very few used cars around and they seem to sell quickly which is a good sign too.
Discounts are normally reflected in poor residuals and lower guaranteed values.
Alfa shifted their 4C's using cheap lease deals which meant cash buyers got a poor deal as residuals were initially poor.
There are very few used cars around and they seem to sell quickly which is a good sign too.
Discounts are normally reflected in poor residuals and lower guaranteed values.
Alfa shifted their 4C's using cheap lease deals which meant cash buyers got a poor deal as residuals were initially poor.
springfan62 said:
I am pleased to see that Alpine are not discounting new cars. It means they are keen to see the brand develop as a premium brand which means limiting supply and ensuring residual values are strong.
There are very few used cars around and they seem to sell quickly which is a good sign too.
Discounts are normally reflected in poor residuals and lower guaranteed values.
Alfa shifted their 4C's using cheap lease deals which meant cash buyers got a poor deal as residuals were initially poor.
Totally agree. Alpine should not be discounting and torpedoing the residuals just to satisfy a few people who want a short term cheap deal for a couple of years to give an A110 a try. Buy something else, or buy and Alpine and enjoy the exclusivity and value it retains is my view. There are very few used cars around and they seem to sell quickly which is a good sign too.
Discounts are normally reflected in poor residuals and lower guaranteed values.
Alfa shifted their 4C's using cheap lease deals which meant cash buyers got a poor deal as residuals were initially poor.
If they start heavy discounting they may sell a few more but it'll be a quick slide down for them.
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