A110R “Radical”
Discussion
On top of the French tax system, there's the engineering philosophy that lies at the core of the Alpine idea and which drives their development, best summed up by Colin Chapman as 'adding lightness' and who proceeded to prove that point in F1 (in parallel with Alpine founder Jean Redele who focused on rallying).
While the rest add power, adding lightness is technically far more challenging and inevitably more expensive due to ever more exotic materials being needed. But it's the USP of the Alpine brand. Andrew English's recent and comprehensive review of the A110R in the Telegraph (he reviewed Alpine A110s from launch ie. Pure, and then the S) was met with similar responses about more power, larger engines etc., one of which he rather deftly responded:
Bob Bobson
£60 - £100k; you think they'd have fitted a decent engine for that price, and not a 1.8 4-cylinder.
Andrew English
Dear Mr Bobson, there's not much wrong with the engine that's in it, but yes, Alpine could have added more cubes, but that's not its way.
All the best,
Andrew
While the rest add power, adding lightness is technically far more challenging and inevitably more expensive due to ever more exotic materials being needed. But it's the USP of the Alpine brand. Andrew English's recent and comprehensive review of the A110R in the Telegraph (he reviewed Alpine A110s from launch ie. Pure, and then the S) was met with similar responses about more power, larger engines etc., one of which he rather deftly responded:
Bob Bobson
£60 - £100k; you think they'd have fitted a decent engine for that price, and not a 1.8 4-cylinder.
Andrew English
Dear Mr Bobson, there's not much wrong with the engine that's in it, but yes, Alpine could have added more cubes, but that's not its way.
All the best,
Andrew
why is the shared engine a bad thing?
i'm going to use mine on track days and high days.
If the engine breaks for whatever reason, other than gasket failures and other minor repairs, it would be much more economical to get a new one given it is shared across the renault range. ditto the gearbox.
try that in a porsche GT car.
i'm going to use mine on track days and high days.
If the engine breaks for whatever reason, other than gasket failures and other minor repairs, it would be much more economical to get a new one given it is shared across the renault range. ditto the gearbox.
try that in a porsche GT car.
Terminator X said:
Bit of a young crowd so I didn't stay long....
That reminded me that while back when I saw an official Alpine video showing A110R I was wondering what is the expected target group for A110R. Based on the video it seemed like perhaps they are targeting 20 something social media influencers or something like that? Is that really a target group that is actually interested in a car like A110R? The video which I'm referring to is this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srDCozuGIEU
for a car that supposedly has only 20 cars coming in 2023/24 and told i couldn't bring a +1, it was a bit too crowded and worse of all, i didn't get to sit in the car/poke around the interior or exterior.....
bit disappointing for a car guy but i'm sure everyone else enjoyed themselves
bit disappointing for a car guy but i'm sure everyone else enjoyed themselves
Alpine is currently a niche brand for car nerds, so I can understand why Renault wants to expand the brand appeal as the current one is not a commercial winner, but trendy young people, who go to bed later than 10, who listen to EDM, are not typical sports car buyer, so I don't understand the marketing strategy. Maybe it's aspirational; people want to be associated with being trendy but are still tucked up in bed before 10.
Portti said:
Terminator X said:
Bit of a young crowd so I didn't stay long....
That reminded me that while back when I saw an official Alpine video showing A110R I was wondering what is the expected target group for A110R. Based on the video it seemed like perhaps they are targeting 20 something social media influencers or something like that? Is that really a target group that is actually interested in a car like A110R? The video which I'm referring to is this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srDCozuGIEU
Certainly wouldn’t sell many if they filmed the likes of me struggling to get out of the thing due to dodgy knees.
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