fuel pump fails in current production
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It is clearly an engineering/design flaw.
Shame that Alpine don’t have the integrity and/or courage to do the right thing and acknowledge it. My car was serviced at a main dealer less than 2 months ago.
The pump should have been replaced at that time.
Alpine’s disingenuous behaviour has cost me the holiday that I had been looking forward to for months.
Shame that Alpine don’t have the integrity and/or courage to do the right thing and acknowledge it. My car was serviced at a main dealer less than 2 months ago.
The pump should have been replaced at that time.
Alpine’s disingenuous behaviour has cost me the holiday that I had been looking forward to for months.
I'm off to the alps in a couple of weeks, my car which was built in December November, are all these failures happening in older cars?
ETA: Just looked through the thread, looks like cars that were built in the Summer of '22 are also failing, is that right?
ETA: Just looked through the thread, looks like cars that were built in the Summer of '22 are also failing, is that right?
Edited by ThisInJapanese on Tuesday 13th June 23:24
ThisInJapanese said:
I'm off to the alps in a couple of weeks, my car which was built in December November, are all these failures happening in older cars?
ETA: Just looked through the thread, looks like cars that were built in the Summer of '22 are also failing, is that right?
New pump is from October 2022 onwards. If Alpine have fixed the issue, then builds from that point forward should be good.ETA: Just looked through the thread, looks like cars that were built in the Summer of '22 are also failing, is that right?
Edited by ThisInJapanese on Tuesday 13th June 23:24
a110au said:
yet another on facebook died
orange/red a110
The fb group thinks this is SIX reported there In a week or so.
Heat + longer trips seem to be provoking the failures.
This is me. 30mile trip, 32 degree heat. 22 plate - just turned 1 year old 7600 miles.orange/red a110
The fb group thinks this is SIX reported there In a week or so.
Heat + longer trips seem to be provoking the failures.
Happened during normal overtaking on a dual carriage way. No warning then sudden total failure. Quite dangerous as it's an auto so there's no clutch to depress to coast - the car decelerated fast with the engine dragging, halfing the time you have to get to the side safely. No time to faff about trying to get neutral and I think this was likely not to have worked anyway as the failure frizzed the entire electronics - nothing worked.
Olivera said:
Someone ought to actually report this to DVSA (via the link I provided above) to effect a manufacturer recall..
Looks like it would need to be done by someone who has had a failure already, preferably 2 failures!From DVSA
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a110au said:
are you serious?
is that 3 fails and one replaced pump or
more than one replaced pump?
Yep! 3 fails on the same pump, pre-October 2022.is that 3 fails and one replaced pump or
more than one replaced pump?
The 1st time I thought I ran out of fuel and didn’t think too much of it. 2nd was a couple months later and it started after an hour (as I had been waiting for RAC). 3rd was a week later - it was truly f
ked and had to flatbed it to Alpine!To add to the spreadsheet I would be curious to know how you drive your Alpine.
Such as, average mpg usually, how often on a journey does your exhaust do the overrun pops, what % do you drive in sport mode etc
The reason for this is that I've noticed on Alpine events people drive their cars very differently, I've been stuck behind slow driving Alpines because some people prefer to enjoy the car at a leisurely place, which is fine.
But, people like David Pook are tracking their car regularly hooning their car to its absolute limits with no fuel pump issues.
I've had no fuel pump issues and mine is a Sunday car that I drive like it's a fighter jet on wheels.
There are cars that I've known in the past such as the Mazda RX8 where is you don't push them regularly it actually causes more engine issues, I also believe this may be the case for the Porsche IMS issues which is why more automatic transmissioned cars need to be rebuilt rather than manual.
Perhaps the slower speeds in hot weather cause the fuel pump to not get airflow and overheat?
Such as, average mpg usually, how often on a journey does your exhaust do the overrun pops, what % do you drive in sport mode etc
The reason for this is that I've noticed on Alpine events people drive their cars very differently, I've been stuck behind slow driving Alpines because some people prefer to enjoy the car at a leisurely place, which is fine.
But, people like David Pook are tracking their car regularly hooning their car to its absolute limits with no fuel pump issues.
I've had no fuel pump issues and mine is a Sunday car that I drive like it's a fighter jet on wheels.
There are cars that I've known in the past such as the Mazda RX8 where is you don't push them regularly it actually causes more engine issues, I also believe this may be the case for the Porsche IMS issues which is why more automatic transmissioned cars need to be rebuilt rather than manual.
Perhaps the slower speeds in hot weather cause the fuel pump to not get airflow and overheat?
Mine might not be David's but I've done maybe a dozen trackdays and not generally hanging around. When mine broke down the other day I was making moderately good progress on a nice flowing B-road, so there shouldn't have been any airflow issues. Having said that, I do notice the oil temp is often higher on the motorway than when blatting. Maybe the pump isn't flowing so well at modest RPM? Not sure how that would relate to frunk/fuel pump temps though,
I drove mine like I stole it for most of the 15k miles in mine!
1st time mine went I was doing multiple flat out accelerations on a road with national speed limit dual carriageways + roundabouts, it failed above 6k in 2nd. 2nd time was crawling on the motorway. 3rd driving through a town centre after some A roads.
It's helpful that the dash shows air temperature too, so I have readings for all 3 failures. 31C, 20C, 21C. I always kept the telematics up on the main display, and never saw anything unusual.
1st time mine went I was doing multiple flat out accelerations on a road with national speed limit dual carriageways + roundabouts, it failed above 6k in 2nd. 2nd time was crawling on the motorway. 3rd driving through a town centre after some A roads.
It's helpful that the dash shows air temperature too, so I have readings for all 3 failures. 31C, 20C, 21C. I always kept the telematics up on the main display, and never saw anything unusual.
I'm off to LeMans Classic next week and now getting very twitchy reading these threads! My car is registered May '23 but I don't know build date, where can I find that? Are post Oct '22 cars definitely OK or is just that none have failed yet?
I normally drive to LM in my 50 year old Alfa which comes with a degree of expectation that there may be a failure of some description on the way. This year I was really looking forward to some modern motoring peace of mind
I normally drive to LM in my 50 year old Alfa which comes with a degree of expectation that there may be a failure of some description on the way. This year I was really looking forward to some modern motoring peace of mind
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