Plague of Electric motorbikes (Sur-Rons) beginning ?
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Whatever bikes all the food delivery riders now use resulted in someone having a torn kidney when they were hit by one
Whatever bikes all the food delivery riders now use resulted in someone having a torn kidney when they were hit by one
The OG Jester said:
No different to the 80's and 90's when I grew up in deprived areas. They just had old crossers back then that hardly worked. I have seen some pretty dangerous riding on them in all seriousness, mainly from young kids whose parents had probably bought them. Riding on the road, no helmets, overtaking cars and riding on the wrong side of the road, well because.....
Its no surprise that there are several incidents of kids dying on these on the roads.
Maybe they just can't afford them where I am, but I have seen kids tearing around on unlicensed two stroke motocross bikes...must admit to a pang of jealousy every time I see them! Its no surprise that there are several incidents of kids dying on these on the roads.
americancrx said:
These are the future of motoring.
If 85% of cars vanished tomorrow, they'd be replaced by eBikes and there would be a massive improvement in congestion and a massive reduction in emissions.
50 MPH, 50 miles range, a quarter the price and a tenth the operating cost. Plus more connection to the road than even an expensive sports car.
Don't complain about them. Buy one.
Not complaining about the tech, which is great, its the fIf 85% of cars vanished tomorrow, they'd be replaced by eBikes and there would be a massive improvement in congestion and a massive reduction in emissions.
50 MPH, 50 miles range, a quarter the price and a tenth the operating cost. Plus more connection to the road than even an expensive sports car.
Don't complain about them. Buy one.
kwitts that buy and ride them illegally and anti socially, get a helmet, insurance, reg plates and ride it responsibly then there is no issue.biggbn said:
ChocolateFrog said:
Loads round our way. Although most are cheap Chinese imports, the type that burn your house down when you plug them in.
Most often ridden 2 up in balaclavas. Ridden with complete impunity.
Jeez, where do you live? I'm in one of the most deprived Scottish towns every day and I never see this. We are so lucky up here!! Most often ridden 2 up in balaclavas. Ridden with complete impunity.
J4CKO said:
Not complaining about the tech, which is great, its the fkwitts that buy and ride them illegally and anti socially, get a helmet, insurance, reg plates and ride it responsibly then there is no issue.
This. As far as the tech goes they’re brilliant bits of kit, I’d like a go on one (driven responsibly) but nearly all owned by balaclava clad idiots spending entire time on the back wheel! I think KTM make a road legal version. kwitts that buy and ride them illegally and anti socially, get a helmet, insurance, reg plates and ride it responsibly then there is no issue.CheesecakeRunner said:
Shouldn’t even be able to buy one without producing proof of insurance and a motorcycle license, and they should be road registered. As they are motorcycles.
And I think the same should apply to all petrol powered bikes too, even if they’re are intended for use off-road.
That's just ridiculous - there are hundreds of pure off-road motorcycles sold every year in the UK for competition and club use (trials/motocross bikes f'rinstance) - why on earth should they be 'road registered'?And I think the same should apply to all petrol powered bikes too, even if they’re are intended for use off-road.
The existing laws are adequate - they just need to be adhered to and policed better.
biggbn said:
ChocolateFrog said:
Loads round our way. Although most are cheap Chinese imports, the type that burn your house down when you plug them in.
Most often ridden 2 up in balaclavas. Ridden with complete impunity.
Jeez, where do you live? I'm in one of the most deprived Scottish towns every day and I never see this. We are so lucky up here!! Most often ridden 2 up in balaclavas. Ridden with complete impunity.
I also do a good chunk of my driving between 0000 and 0500 so they tend to stand out.
jhonn said:
The existing laws are adequate - they just need to be adhered to and policed better.
And not just for these, most of our laws are decent, just not enforced or punished properly.Unfortunately, everyone seems to think that making everything "double super-duper banned with nobs on" will make things better,.
biggbn said:
The OG Jester said:
No different to the 80's and 90's when I grew up in deprived areas. They just had old crossers back then that hardly worked. I have seen some pretty dangerous riding on them in all seriousness, mainly from young kids whose parents had probably bought them. Riding on the road, no helmets, overtaking cars and riding on the wrong side of the road, well because.....
Its no surprise that there are several incidents of kids dying on these on the roads.
Maybe they just can't afford them where I am, but I have seen kids tearing around on unlicensed two stroke motocross bikes...must admit to a pang of jealousy every time I see them! Its no surprise that there are several incidents of kids dying on these on the roads.
What happened? The police seized a good few but didn't really manage to regain control of the situation. It did, however, resolve itself in fairly short order. The vehicles were cheap and badly made and their owners didn't know one end of a spark plug from the other. Most teenagers' crummy motorbikes eventually suffered the inevitable failure to start, which then resulted in a thousand cries of 'f
k's sake, this is st' and a good few pairs of Reeboks mangled by kicks aimed at back wheels. The average owner did the inevitable: borrowed uncle Dean's set of screwdrivers, attempted to dismantle the carburettor on their Mums' patio in the dark and rain, lost a few vital bits and then dumped the bike behind the shed to rot away. The things were gone from the streets in fairly short order.
Are these electric motorbikes going to suffer a similar fate? If they are badly made then probably.
jhonn said:
CheesecakeRunner said:
Shouldn’t even be able to buy one without producing proof of insurance and a motorcycle license, and they should be road registered. As they are motorcycles.
And I think the same should apply to all petrol powered bikes too, even if they’re are intended for use off-road.
That's just ridiculous - there are hundreds of pure off-road motorcycles sold every year in the UK for competition and club use (trials/motocross bikes f'rinstance) - why on earth should they be 'road registered'? And I think the same should apply to all petrol powered bikes too, even if they’re are intended for use off-road.
jhonn said:
The existing laws are adequate - they just need to be adhered to and policed better.
They’re obviously not adequate, are they? Crap parents and others are able to buy motorcycles for their kids with no checks at all. If Police don’t have the resources to stop the use of them, then the next best thing is to make them harder to buy. We get loads of them at work, mainly from West Yorkshire Police and Merseyside Police.
Majority get battery removed and then fed through the shredder.
They are really dangerous things! I was moving one and didn't realise it was switched on, grazed the throttle and it dragged me across the floor.
Majority get battery removed and then fed through the shredder.
They are really dangerous things! I was moving one and didn't realise it was switched on, grazed the throttle and it dragged me across the floor.
crankedup5 said:
Police are going to have to use drone tech’, follow scrote and note destination stop. Follow up in car and nick said scrote. Bike goes off to auction house.
Directed energy weapons may provide an answer eventually, for this as well as miscreants in electric cars. georgeyboy12345 said:
The problem with these electric motorbikes, as well as electric pedal bikes and scooters, is that the kind of people you see riding them are exactly the kind of people who shouldn’t be allowed to.
What kind of people should't be allowed to use electric pedal cycles ??Wacky Racer said:
I took these in Oldham a few weeks back, on a main road all masked up. There were around 20 of them.
I rang the Police and they said "Oh right" and put the phone down.
Boys will be boys.
You'd need a huge road block both sides with alot of vehicles immediately available.
Anyone who falls off gets NHS treatment.
lancslad58 said:
georgeyboy12345 said:
The problem with these electric motorbikes, as well as electric pedal bikes and scooters, is that the kind of people you see riding them are exactly the kind of people who shouldn’t be allowed to.
What kind of people should't be allowed to use electric pedal cycles ??Let’s not confuse a legal pedal assisted 250w bicycle to some of the home brew 1000kw no pedal required bicycles that the high speed deliveroo drivers seem to ride with no regard to road rules.
I cycle commute and illegal e bikes and rental e scooters are possibly more of a threat to my life than cars…. Taxis come a close second as they never seem to use mirrors.
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