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I'm expecting delivery soon and to run the car in for the first 1,000 miles. Officially it won't need servicing until 10,000 miles but my local dealer says they always serviced other Lotus models after 1,000 miles and suggest I bring it in. Are they rent-seeking, or is their argument solid?
Spindoctor said:
The 1,000 mile Exige service was free, for me at least. Is that what they’re saying about the Emira?
Normally you had to pay for the oil and filter which I always thought was really tight when you've just bought a new car. I even had a bizarre situation where two dealers were locking heads about paying £130 labour. Only resolved by a helpful chap at Parks in Hamilton. They must have changed the oil the engines are delivered with but it would be advisable to change the oil after running in for sure. There can be bits floating round that you want out of it when the engines new.
We understand that but I'm telling you it's advisable. A new engine is a new engine regardless of the cost saving measures Lotus have put in to make that run in service disappear. It's the same engine so why the requirement is gone who knows! For the sake of £200 or whatever it would be a no brainer for me.
fridaypassion said:
Normally you had to pay for the oil and filter which I always thought was really tight when you've just bought a new car. I even had a bizarre situation where two dealers were locking heads about paying £130 labour. Only resolved by a helpful chap at Parks in Hamilton.
They must have changed the oil the engines are delivered with but it would be advisable to change the oil after running in for sure. There can be bits floating round that you want out of it when the engines new.
Bits floating around? Are you sure?They must have changed the oil the engines are delivered with but it would be advisable to change the oil after running in for sure. There can be bits floating round that you want out of it when the engines new.
Picked mine up today, factory collection. I worked at Lotus for 6 years so nice to see some old friends, a lot has changed in the ten years since I was there!
Loving the car, everything I hoped for. Seats are great, steering is great, and it already feels like it’s loosening up after a few hundred miles
I’d also say that no one should fear the Sport Suspension option, damping is great, more than comfortable enough, still rides better than my old man’s 992 Turbo S
Loving the car, everything I hoped for. Seats are great, steering is great, and it already feels like it’s loosening up after a few hundred miles
I’d also say that no one should fear the Sport Suspension option, damping is great, more than comfortable enough, still rides better than my old man’s 992 Turbo S
Edited by The Wookie on Monday 6th March 21:13
It’s tightly controlled but never anywhere near harsh or crashy, I’ve cringed approaching a few pot holes that my Cayenne would clatter over and it’s just thumped and carried on like it wasn’t there.
I suspect the biggest difference is that with Touring it breathes with the road surface a bit more at the expense of a bit more body roll
If it was my daily I’d probably choose Touring, but as a fun car that I’ll use on track at some point it’s perfect
I suspect the biggest difference is that with Touring it breathes with the road surface a bit more at the expense of a bit more body roll
If it was my daily I’d probably choose Touring, but as a fun car that I’ll use on track at some point it’s perfect
BertBert said:
Bits floating around? Are you sure?
100% yes. Bits of burr stuff like that. You have a new metal machine with 100s of metal components inside that are all brand new.It's basics really. Just because Lotus say you don't need it doesn't mean it's right and if I had a new car I would and have always had a run in oil change. I believe Porsche have the same system but I would do the same. It's literally a couple hundred quid to drop the oil I don't understand why you wouldn't just do it. Imagine how awful an engine change looks on your service history and ultimately that's what can happen.
Maybe because I work with cars in more used to seeing things go wrong. But they do!
I'm being slightly argumentative here, but...
1 why would Lotus say not to do it if it was needed with all those floaty bits of metal in there?
2 if only an engine had a mechanism that could clean all those floaty bits out? Like one of those water filters you can get for home, but for an engine. I wonder if you could adapt one to use in the engine?
3 If those floaty bits have been going round the engine for 1000 miles, how come they haven't done damage already?
(the ever helpful) Bert
1 why would Lotus say not to do it if it was needed with all those floaty bits of metal in there?
2 if only an engine had a mechanism that could clean all those floaty bits out? Like one of those water filters you can get for home, but for an engine. I wonder if you could adapt one to use in the engine?
3 If those floaty bits have been going round the engine for 1000 miles, how come they haven't done damage already?
(the ever helpful) Bert
BertBert said:
I'm being slightly argumentative here, but...
1 why would Lotus say not to do it if it was needed with all those floaty bits of metal in there?
2 if only an engine had a mechanism that could clean all those floaty bits out? Like one of those water filters you can get for home, but for an engine. I wonder if you could adapt one to use in the engine?
3 If those floaty bits have been going round the engine for 1000 miles, how come they haven't done damage already?
(the ever helpful) Bert
Brand perception? Reliability concerns becoming prevalent in the face of competition?1 why would Lotus say not to do it if it was needed with all those floaty bits of metal in there?
2 if only an engine had a mechanism that could clean all those floaty bits out? Like one of those water filters you can get for home, but for an engine. I wonder if you could adapt one to use in the engine?
3 If those floaty bits have been going round the engine for 1000 miles, how come they haven't done damage already?
(the ever helpful) Bert
Or maybe they've been assessed and found to be minor concerns (floaty bits)
Either way, an oil change won't hurt and is quite sensible for a run in service, but it won't hurt the value if you don't (if not required)
Mercedes used to do a diff service at 2k miles on the 63, so it was something to look for when buying or a sales point. It got took off which probably increased the value of anyone's car that forgot to do it.
Do you remember GTR's needing service every 6 months. That got dropped, but hurt the value if you didn't and put off some buyers. I think there was a Subaru or Mitsubishi evo that had similar.
Edited by Niponeoff on Tuesday 7th March 10:11
BertBert said:
I'm being slightly argumentative here, but...
1 why would Lotus say not to do it if it was needed with all those floaty bits of metal in there?
2 if only an engine had a mechanism that could clean all those floaty bits out? Like one of those water filters you can get for home, but for an engine. I wonder if you could adapt one to use in the engine?
3 If those floaty bits have been going round the engine for 1000 miles, how come they haven't done damage already?
(the ever helpful) Bert
As I say I work in the trade I deal with a lot of this stuff all the time and just because its new and shiny does not mean its right. One of the demo cars shat itself on delivery! 1 why would Lotus say not to do it if it was needed with all those floaty bits of metal in there?
2 if only an engine had a mechanism that could clean all those floaty bits out? Like one of those water filters you can get for home, but for an engine. I wonder if you could adapt one to use in the engine?
3 If those floaty bits have been going round the engine for 1000 miles, how come they haven't done damage already?
(the ever helpful) Bert
fridaypassion said:
As I say I work in the trade I deal with a lot of this stuff all the time and just because its new and shiny does not mean its right. One of the demo cars shat itself on delivery!
So that's just a failure. As I said if you've got bits in there that somehow go round but don't get caught in the oil filter, the engine won't make it to 1000 miles.Gassing Station | Emira | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff