Emira V6 reviews out - Anyone cancelled or changed to i4 ???
Discussion
I was a bit deflated by the reviews but still on track for my V6 MT car. Orders in, Nov/Dec expected delivery. No interest in the DCT for me. For this car it’s MT or nothing.
I do wish EVO wasn’t the first review I watched. It was probably one of the most negative and I saw mostly negative points in the following videos even if they were more neutral or positive.
It was quite surprising to me given the mostly enthusiastic reviews of the PPV car a couple months ago. I never expected the car to be better all around than a Cayman GTS. I love Porsche but I wanted a better looking, better built Evora GT. Given the obvious looks, and the carryover drivetrain I thought they were pretty much there. I’ve been In the car in person.( static) I had no real complaints about fit and finish.
I’m still going ahead with my purchase because I don’t have a plan B. I do wish there were just more smiles and less niggles about sound, gearshift levers, too skinny or too fat steering wheels. I need to drive the car. I know I’m frequently not on the same page as many reviewers. I’m using real money and they aren’t so our priorities are different. ( except Harry in this case
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I do wish EVO wasn’t the first review I watched. It was probably one of the most negative and I saw mostly negative points in the following videos even if they were more neutral or positive.
It was quite surprising to me given the mostly enthusiastic reviews of the PPV car a couple months ago. I never expected the car to be better all around than a Cayman GTS. I love Porsche but I wanted a better looking, better built Evora GT. Given the obvious looks, and the carryover drivetrain I thought they were pretty much there. I’ve been In the car in person.( static) I had no real complaints about fit and finish.
I’m still going ahead with my purchase because I don’t have a plan B. I do wish there were just more smiles and less niggles about sound, gearshift levers, too skinny or too fat steering wheels. I need to drive the car. I know I’m frequently not on the same page as many reviewers. I’m using real money and they aren’t so our priorities are different. ( except Harry in this case
)GreasyHands said:
I was a bit deflated by the reviews but still on track for my V6 MT car. Orders in, Nov/Dec expected delivery. No interest in the DCT for me. For this car it’s MT or nothing.
I do wish EVO wasn’t the first review I watched. It was probably one of the most negative and I saw mostly negative points in the following videos even if they were more neutral or positive.
It was quite surprising to me given the mostly enthusiastic reviews of the PPV car a couple months ago. I never expected the car to be better all around than a Cayman GTS. I love Porsche but I wanted a better looking, better built Evora GT. Given the obvious looks, and the carryover drivetrain I thought they were pretty much there. I’ve been In the car in person.( static) I had no real complaints about fit and finish.
I’m still going ahead with my purchase because I don’t have a plan B. I do wish there were just more smiles and less niggles about sound, gearshift levers, too skinny or too fat steering wheels. I need to drive the car. I know I’m frequently not on the same page as many reviewers. I’m using real money and they aren’t so our priorities are different. ( except Harry in this case )
Go back and take a look at the earlier pre prod reviews (apparently the latest reviews are pre production too - go figure!) and you’ll hear more caveats and actually a lot that wasn’t said. Apart from looks.I do wish EVO wasn’t the first review I watched. It was probably one of the most negative and I saw mostly negative points in the following videos even if they were more neutral or positive.
It was quite surprising to me given the mostly enthusiastic reviews of the PPV car a couple months ago. I never expected the car to be better all around than a Cayman GTS. I love Porsche but I wanted a better looking, better built Evora GT. Given the obvious looks, and the carryover drivetrain I thought they were pretty much there. I’ve been In the car in person.( static) I had no real complaints about fit and finish.
I’m still going ahead with my purchase because I don’t have a plan B. I do wish there were just more smiles and less niggles about sound, gearshift levers, too skinny or too fat steering wheels. I need to drive the car. I know I’m frequently not on the same page as many reviewers. I’m using real money and they aren’t so our priorities are different. ( except Harry in this case
)It’s still not going to be a bad car and it will be different from a Porsche. And it does look extremely pretty.
Im starting to think of it as an alternative to a second hand 2015-ish era Aston, not a modern performance car but strong on looks and feel good or a prettier Evora 400, then I think it makes more sense.
I really can’t believe Lotus would allow that car out without the Cup 2s, all of the criticism of understeer would (in my opinion) be totally invalid, I moved from a 350 Exige on whatever the OEM tyres were to a 410 on Cup 2s, the front end grip was night and day different.
Even if Lotus thought it might rain the journos would have made allowances for the conditions rather than criticising the car / chassis.
Even if Lotus thought it might rain the journos would have made allowances for the conditions rather than criticising the car / chassis.
gareth h said:
I really can’t believe Lotus would allow that car out without the Cup 2s, all of the criticism of understeer would (in my opinion) be totally invalid, I moved from a 350 Exige on whatever the OEM tyres were to a 410 on Cup 2s, the front end grip was night and day different.
Even if Lotus thought it might rain the journos would have made allowances for the conditions rather than criticising the car / chassis.
Especially when in interviews over the past months you heard the development team talk about trying something like over 100 compounds of tyres to get it perfect. Then as soon as you’re about to send it out to it’s press launch, you just stick whatever is lying about on - seems crazy.Even if Lotus thought it might rain the journos would have made allowances for the conditions rather than criticising the car / chassis.
It does seem mental that Lotus don’t seem to know how to play the game.
If this was Ferrari or Porsche the cars would be so immaculately good that you question if the demo car is representative because it might have a hot engine etc. you just know before a car goes to the press it will have been gone over to make absolutely sure it’s the best example it can be.
Then you have Lotus handing over yet more pre production cars with caveats. If the cars aren’t ready just do a press release bulls
tting about COVID etc delay until it’s right.
I run a tiny company compared to Lotus and all samples are manufactured front to back by my head of production and I quality control them self. That way I know it’s the best representation of my product it can be.
Or are Lotus arrogant enough to think they could hand over pre prod cars and getting nothing but praise. Maybe they have got away with it before because of the cars they sold and love for the brand hot an easy ride in the press. Now they are finding out the bad side of having budget etc people expect it to be good without excuse.
If this was Ferrari or Porsche the cars would be so immaculately good that you question if the demo car is representative because it might have a hot engine etc. you just know before a car goes to the press it will have been gone over to make absolutely sure it’s the best example it can be.
Then you have Lotus handing over yet more pre production cars with caveats. If the cars aren’t ready just do a press release bulls
tting about COVID etc delay until it’s right. I run a tiny company compared to Lotus and all samples are manufactured front to back by my head of production and I quality control them self. That way I know it’s the best representation of my product it can be.
Or are Lotus arrogant enough to think they could hand over pre prod cars and getting nothing but praise. Maybe they have got away with it before because of the cars they sold and love for the brand hot an easy ride in the press. Now they are finding out the bad side of having budget etc people expect it to be good without excuse.
Not sure why EVO would use a fully loaded/ optioned First edition Emira and test it on track against a track oriented GT4 ( not even the GTS). I think and the base Emira with sports suspension or a track focued Emira which no doubt Lotus will release at some point would have fared better.
As previously posted on the other Emira thread it will be interesting to see what Lotus charge for any available extras on the Base edition but I suspect they could well be relatively expensive.
Whilst the touring and sport 'driving' modes are standard on the Base model the track mode sports suspension and Cup tyre option is not available other than with the drivers pack which also includes the essential (imo) switchable sports exhaust.
Based on the current £12k difference in price between the Base and FE i4 models giving extra standard equipment on the FE and the option of 3 packs it could well be the case that if available the drivers pack optioned on the Base edition may well be as much as c £4k to £5k.
Be interesting to know the cost of similar packs if available on previous Lotus models.
Whilst the touring and sport 'driving' modes are standard on the Base model the track mode sports suspension and Cup tyre option is not available other than with the drivers pack which also includes the essential (imo) switchable sports exhaust.
Based on the current £12k difference in price between the Base and FE i4 models giving extra standard equipment on the FE and the option of 3 packs it could well be the case that if available the drivers pack optioned on the Base edition may well be as much as c £4k to £5k.
Be interesting to know the cost of similar packs if available on previous Lotus models.
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