Anyone placed an Order for the Taycan yet?
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Digga said:
Robbo66 said:
I wouldn't consider any EV car unless it was specifically for local shopping/city trips. The infrastructure simply isnt there, The mini, Honda etc are good little runabouts, but the higher end ...forget it.
^This. Mrs Digga has won the EV race in our household (has new I-Pace arriving tomorrow) so that means a.) she has first dibs at the chargepoint we're having installed and b.) the 'other' sensible (i.e. non 911) car needs to have range and versatility. So I'm looking at petrol hybrid.Doesn't matter on runabout, but big smack on higher end.
Lifes too short to worry about 'if' I can make it to next charge point and 'if' the charge point will be occupied. Imagine.
Robbo66 said:
Lifes too short to worry about 'if' I can make it to next charge point and 'if' the charge point will be occupied. Imagine.
Agreed. I'm a keen mountain biker, so free time often involves carting two or three of us, plus kits and bikes, to the muddy and remote corners of the UK.Last thing you want to have to worry about, after a whole day out on the bike, is having to charge up on the way home. Less still fannying about switching the heater off to save charge/range. It's bad enough trying to fill up an ICE car in the back end of bugger all.
Range was the big issue with my Tesla. A supposed 300 miles becomes 200 if you are cruising at 85 on the autoroutes, which becomes 180 once you factor in even a small safety margin.
Having to string chargers together at 180 mile intervals, or drive very slowly, means that you have to base your entire route around them, which was a real pain in the backside.
Having to string chargers together at 180 mile intervals, or drive very slowly, means that you have to base your entire route around them, which was a real pain in the backside.
http://www.porsche-code.com/PMAUV292
Here's where I'm at after today.
Well, what a car, I utterly love it. The instant shove in sports mode is addictive. The demo car was a basic spec 4s with Performance Battery and not much else which actually made the interior look a bit sparse.
I looked at one with extended leather and sports chrono with clock etc and it was much, much nicer.
Ultimately, I'm still excited for March...
Here's where I'm at after today.
Well, what a car, I utterly love it. The instant shove in sports mode is addictive. The demo car was a basic spec 4s with Performance Battery and not much else which actually made the interior look a bit sparse.
I looked at one with extended leather and sports chrono with clock etc and it was much, much nicer.
Ultimately, I'm still excited for March...
Robbo66 said:
Digga said:
Robbo66 said:
I wouldn't consider any EV car unless it was specifically for local shopping/city trips. The infrastructure simply isnt there, The mini, Honda etc are good little runabouts, but the higher end ...forget it.
^This. Mrs Digga has won the EV race in our household (has new I-Pace arriving tomorrow) so that means a.) she has first dibs at the chargepoint we're having installed and b.) the 'other' sensible (i.e. non 911) car needs to have range and versatility. So I'm looking at petrol hybrid.Doesn't matter on runabout, but big smack on higher end.
Lifes too short to worry about 'if' I can make it to next charge point and 'if' the charge point will be occupied. Imagine.
I was lucky I was close to an Ionity charger last night which would appear to be the “gold standard” but they are few and far between. Nothing in London and nothing between Milton Keynes and Liverpool !
This is a map of rapid chargers in the south/midlands, over 100kw.
I was concerned about charging on long journeys but it is no issue at all as long as you get used to where they are. I can get to birmingham and back from the south coast on a single charge anyway but if I fancy a top up I can get 150 miles in the time it takes to sit in Costa and have a drink.
Bristol, Bath & Swindon area in a bit bare but easy to plan for.
I was concerned about charging on long journeys but it is no issue at all as long as you get used to where they are. I can get to birmingham and back from the south coast on a single charge anyway but if I fancy a top up I can get 150 miles in the time it takes to sit in Costa and have a drink.
Bristol, Bath & Swindon area in a bit bare but easy to plan for.
fblm said:
I'm trying to order a Turbo for export but Porsche UK won't sell me one!
A lot of cars were going to the RHD Asian markets until about 18 months ago. Because of pressure I am assume from the local markets and Porsche AG VIN;s of cars on sale were traced back to the customers that had bought them (mostly car brokers) which were subsequently banned from buying any cars at all. Cheib said:
A lot of cars were going to the RHD Asian markets until about 18 months ago. Because of pressure I am assume from the local markets and Porsche AG VIN;s of cars on sale were traced back to the customers that had bought them (mostly car brokers) which were subsequently banned from buying any cars at all.
Interesting thanks. I explained that there's no official importer where I live but Porsche UK (Reading) don't care. It seems a very strange position to take to me. I'm backwards and forwards changing my mind, but I've finally settled and sent this to my sales guy and don't plan to bother looking at it again. Now just to wait... and wait...
http://www.porsche-code.com/PMSJKEH7
http://www.porsche-code.com/PMSJKEH7
fblm said:
Cheib said:
A lot of cars were going to the RHD Asian markets until about 18 months ago. Because of pressure I am assume from the local markets and Porsche AG VIN;s of cars on sale were traced back to the customers that had bought them (mostly car brokers) which were subsequently banned from buying any cars at all.
Interesting thanks. I explained that there's no official importer where I live but Porsche UK (Reading) don't care. It seems a very strange position to take to me. The UK is interesting because sterling is worth a half-eaten packet of crisps these days so cars are generally a good bit cheaper vs euroland. I’m sure Porsche don’t want cross-border shopping in this case even if I’m sure it’s against EU law to prevent it. In all likelihood they will only sell a UK spec car from the UK to get around it.
I emailed Porsche yesterday to cancel my Taycan order.
Between the issues I had with the order process, the new cars I’ve bought since, the problems with the early cars and the lack of infrastructure I prefer to wait a year or two and then look again.
I had an early deposit for a Turbo S, thinking it could be my only car, but it’s now not as sporty as my sports car, and not as good a family car as my Range Rover.
I may actually switch to the Audi if it looks anything like the renderings suggest.
Between the issues I had with the order process, the new cars I’ve bought since, the problems with the early cars and the lack of infrastructure I prefer to wait a year or two and then look again.
I had an early deposit for a Turbo S, thinking it could be my only car, but it’s now not as sporty as my sports car, and not as good a family car as my Range Rover.
I may actually switch to the Audi if it looks anything like the renderings suggest.
DMZ said:
The UK is interesting because sterling is worth a half-eaten packet of crisps these days so cars are generally a good bit cheaper vs euroland. I’m sure Porsche don’t want cross-border shopping in this case even if I’m sure it’s against EU law to prevent it. In all likelihood they will only sell a UK spec car from the UK to get around it.
Exactly. The UK price ex VAT is way cheaper than Europe or even USA ex sales tax. Thing is I want a UK spec car and there's no importer where I live whose sale they would be taking, they just won't do it. Porsche NA will in a heartbeat.Kent Border Kenny said:
I emailed Porsche yesterday to cancel my Taycan order.
Between the issues I had with the order process, the new cars I’ve bought since, the problems with the early cars and the lack of infrastructure I prefer to wait a year or two and then look again.
I had an early deposit for a Turbo S, thinking it could be my only car, but it’s now not as sporty as my sports car, and not as good a family car as my Range Rover.
I may actually switch to the Audi if it looks anything like the renderings suggest.
I think your point about it not being as good a family car as your Range Rover is the key one...I think you need to run another car alongside it and personally in my case if I don’t want to be doing a drive for our skiing holiday in £30k runabout.....so it it means having another nice family car alongside it. Between the issues I had with the order process, the new cars I’ve bought since, the problems with the early cars and the lack of infrastructure I prefer to wait a year or two and then look again.
I had an early deposit for a Turbo S, thinking it could be my only car, but it’s now not as sporty as my sports car, and not as good a family car as my Range Rover.
I may actually switch to the Audi if it looks anything like the renderings suggest.
DMZ said:
The UK is interesting because sterling is worth a half-eaten packet of crisps these days so cars are generally a good bit cheaper vs euroland. I’m sure Porsche don’t want cross-border shopping in this case even if I’m sure it’s against EU law to prevent it. In all likelihood they will only sell a UK spec car from the UK to get around it.
They are not keen on selling you a LHD car - I asked when the 992 was launched and dealers either said not interested or quoted relatively long delivery times Kent Border Kenny said:
No, one of the reasons I gave up, no car or build slot ever appeared.
It's really disappointing. Given their refusal to sell me a Taycan for export I asked if they had any contacts at Porsche Germany who can obviously export cars but they just ignored that. It's a shame. I'm a big Porsche fan, I've got 3 911's but this is my first experience of dealing with an OPC and probably my last.I have a deposit down on a Taycan ST for next year so am casually keeping an eye on things until it's launched.
I've just noticed that the PSCB (surface coated brakes) are no longer an option on the 4S... is this new? So if you want the Mission E wheels on a 4S you now have to have the full ceramic brakes as well (with yellow callipers which I don't think looks as nice on a white car with white painted wheels)... a total of over £9K option!
Is this a move to try and push more buyers away from 4S to the turbo?
I've just noticed that the PSCB (surface coated brakes) are no longer an option on the 4S... is this new? So if you want the Mission E wheels on a 4S you now have to have the full ceramic brakes as well (with yellow callipers which I don't think looks as nice on a white car with white painted wheels)... a total of over £9K option!
Is this a move to try and push more buyers away from 4S to the turbo?
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