Taycan 4S Cross Turismo
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I'm not surprised by that. Porsche are good at this. Out of interest have you tried one without PSP+? I would wager it feels even better. But as I said before, on a Taycan which has more value? Amazing steering or great steering and a better low speed turning circle?
Sorry I know I'm being uber geeky, but it makes for a semi-interesting conversation...
Sorry I know I'm being uber geeky, but it makes for a semi-interesting conversation...
RAS on the Taycan CT is a no brainer. If for no other reason than reducing that turning circle, which it does and then some. Add in the incredible cornering, and it’s worth every penny as an option.
As regards steering feel, I’m not sure how much better it could be? But not having driven a car without PSP, I can’t really say. There’s no complaints here though.
As regards steering feel, I’m not sure how much better it could be? But not having driven a car without PSP, I can’t really say. There’s no complaints here though.
I need to try one without RWS and PSP as gyms bore me to tears! As have ordered ST GTS it would be good to have proper info on this so will seek a test drive, but yes, again, RWS is SO handy on a 5m long car and even surprised me today in getting in a tight parking spot. It actively steers the rear away from the wall rather than needing you to set it up and yaw it out the way by over steering the car using the fronts - if that makes sense? Something of the horse and cart in the old way now ;-)
Ordered my Taycan Sports Turismo 4S from Porsche Hatfield in February. Was very surprised to take delivery in May. Mine has RWS which I find very useful in such a big car. Have done about 2,000 miles and loved every mile, not as much fun as the 993 but certainly more useable for day to day living. Only problem is am living in rented accommodation whilst house is being renovated so no charger.
keithcharles2 said:
Ordered my Taycan Sports Turismo 4S from Porsche Hatfield in February. Was very surprised to take delivery in May. Mine has RWS which I find very useful in such a big car. Have done about 2,000 miles and loved every mile, not as much fun as the 993 but certainly more useable for day to day living. Only problem is am living in rented accommodation whilst house is being renovated so no charger.
Feb and May this year?!Your own spec?
That must be some sort of record - did you have pictures of the dealer principle with a donkey or something?
Murph7355 said:
Feb and May this year?!
Your own spec?
That must be some sort of record - did you have pictures of the dealer principle with a donkey or something?
Lol, exactly, we ordered (rather we put 5k down just to join the queue to order) in Jan 22.Your own spec?
That must be some sort of record - did you have pictures of the dealer principle with a donkey or something?
Only got a build slot for October confirmed 2 weeks ago, (delivery pre Xmas if lucky).
That was an improvement on March 23 estimate...
So to bring this thread full circle for me (as the OP) as unfortunately Taycan ownership just didn't pan out for us for a number of reasons. I needed to replace the Cross Turismo with something similar, 4 seats, estate like but not dull. So I bought this, the car I really wanted to start with, but the least tax friendly vehicle I could probably find. Obviously I bought this personally not through the business
We are still running a pair of Mazda MX-30 EV's through the business on a lease, they are just approaching a year old and each has about 7000 miles on it. They've been absolutely faultless and perfect city runabouts/dog cars/supermarket cars. So for us they work as they allow both of us to buy something silly as a second vehicle. My business partner is going with a 992 GTS at some point.
We are still running a pair of Mazda MX-30 EV's through the business on a lease, they are just approaching a year old and each has about 7000 miles on it. They've been absolutely faultless and perfect city runabouts/dog cars/supermarket cars. So for us they work as they allow both of us to buy something silly as a second vehicle. My business partner is going with a 992 GTS at some point.
21ATS said:
So to bring this thread full circle for me (as the OP) as unfortunately Taycan ownership just didn't pan out for us for a number of reasons. I needed to replace the Cross Turismo with something similar, 4 seats, estate like but not dull. So I bought this, the car I really wanted to start with, but the least tax friendly vehicle I could probably find. Obviously I bought this personally not through the business
We are still running a pair of Mazda MX-30 EV's through the business on a lease, they are just approaching a year old and each has about 7000 miles on it. They've been absolutely faultless and perfect city runabouts/dog cars/supermarket cars. So for us they work as they allow both of us to buy something silly as a second vehicle. My business partner is going with a 992 GTS at some point.
Looks amazing ! We are still running a pair of Mazda MX-30 EV's through the business on a lease, they are just approaching a year old and each has about 7000 miles on it. They've been absolutely faultless and perfect city runabouts/dog cars/supermarket cars. So for us they work as they allow both of us to buy something silly as a second vehicle. My business partner is going with a 992 GTS at some point.
Funnily enough thsi was my other option before I bought my Taycan
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AB said:
Lovely looking thing. Congratulations.
I have a 911 Turbo S as a personal fun car but still would not be without my Taycan. Just had delivery of my Taycan Turbo S Saloon 'confirmed' as being at the dealer mid-December. I remain cynical but hopeful.
I cannot fault the Taycan as a piece of engineering. Our problems all stemmed from accident repair and dealer service/backup facilities.I have a 911 Turbo S as a personal fun car but still would not be without my Taycan. Just had delivery of my Taycan Turbo S Saloon 'confirmed' as being at the dealer mid-December. I remain cynical but hopeful.
Fundamentally Porsche have been so successful with the Taycan in the UK mainly due to the unique tax situation, that it's selling more vehicles than it has facilites to deal with.
If you get a good one that has no problems or you don't have an accident, they are awesome things.
Where ownership falls down is back up facilities.
Example - Red dash warning "do not drive return to dealer" - Phone dealer - "we can get you in in 6 weeks if you don't need a loan car or three months if you do"
Three months repair time for any sort of accident. Not because parts are a problem, simply that at all 12 approved repairers in the UK only have one tech that is trained to repair Taycans, you go in a queue and wait for that tech, If he's off sick on holiday nothing is repaired until he's back.
We were unfortunate to suffer multiple return to dealer problems on one of our cars and three incidents/minor accidents between the two cars in the short ownership we had them. We owned one for 6 months and the second for 4. They were both off the road one for 4 months one for 3 months during that time simply sat waiting to be attended to for various reasons. So in a combined 10 months of ownership we got 3 months actual use.
21ATS said:
I cannot fault the Taycan as a piece of engineering. Our problems all stemmed from accident repair and dealer service/backup facilities.
Fundamentally Porsche have been so successful with the Taycan in the UK mainly due to the unique tax situation, that it's selling more vehicles than it has facilites to deal with.
If you get a good one that has no problems or you don't have an accident, they are awesome things.
Where ownership falls down is back up facilities.
Example - Red dash warning "do not drive return to dealer" - Phone dealer - "we can get you in in 6 weeks if you don't need a loan car or three months if you do"
Three months repair time for any sort of accident. Not because parts are a problem, simply that at all 12 approved repairers in the UK only have one tech that is trained to repair Taycans, you go in a queue and wait for that tech, If he's off sick on holiday nothing is repaired until he's back.
We were unfortunate to suffer multiple return to dealer problems on one of our cars and three incidents/minor accidents between the two cars in the short ownership we had them. We owned one for 6 months and the second for 4. They were both off the road one for 4 months one for 3 months during that time simply sat waiting to be attended to for various reasons. So in a combined 10 months of ownership we got 3 months actual use.
I had a couple of issues in the early days, middle of last year so before there were so many on the road I guess, and each time it was dealt with quickly and efficiently and with a courtesy car, I had a Macan, another Taycan and a 718 Boxster. Only minor things like a door rattle, software update and heater pump not playing ball. Nothing that stopped me from driving it.Fundamentally Porsche have been so successful with the Taycan in the UK mainly due to the unique tax situation, that it's selling more vehicles than it has facilites to deal with.
If you get a good one that has no problems or you don't have an accident, they are awesome things.
Where ownership falls down is back up facilities.
Example - Red dash warning "do not drive return to dealer" - Phone dealer - "we can get you in in 6 weeks if you don't need a loan car or three months if you do"
Three months repair time for any sort of accident. Not because parts are a problem, simply that at all 12 approved repairers in the UK only have one tech that is trained to repair Taycans, you go in a queue and wait for that tech, If he's off sick on holiday nothing is repaired until he's back.
We were unfortunate to suffer multiple return to dealer problems on one of our cars and three incidents/minor accidents between the two cars in the short ownership we had them. We owned one for 6 months and the second for 4. They were both off the road one for 4 months one for 3 months during that time simply sat waiting to be attended to for various reasons. So in a combined 10 months of ownership we got 3 months actual use.
I remain hopeful the next one will be OK and I will try not to crash it!
21ATS said:
So to bring this thread full circle for me (as the OP) as unfortunately Taycan ownership just didn't pan out for us for a number of reasons. I needed to replace the Cross Turismo with something similar, 4 seats, estate like but not dull. So I bought this, the car I really wanted to start with, but the least tax friendly vehicle I could probably find. Obviously I bought this personally not through the business
We are still running a pair of Mazda MX-30 EV's through the business on a lease, they are just approaching a year old and each has about 7000 miles on it. They've been absolutely faultless and perfect city runabouts/dog cars/supermarket cars. So for us they work as they allow both of us to buy something silly as a second vehicle. My business partner is going with a 992 GTS at some point.
Stunning cars, and a pleasantly discrete hue you've chosen too. I assume it has a Ferrari Approved warranty ? If not, probably best you get on first name terms with Martin @ Parkes Performance for when the inevitable happens. We are still running a pair of Mazda MX-30 EV's through the business on a lease, they are just approaching a year old and each has about 7000 miles on it. They've been absolutely faultless and perfect city runabouts/dog cars/supermarket cars. So for us they work as they allow both of us to buy something silly as a second vehicle. My business partner is going with a 992 GTS at some point.
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