Taycan 4S Cross Turismo

Taycan 4S Cross Turismo

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Ken Figenus

5,715 posts

118 months

Monday 25th July 2022
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Mine has RWS and so also the PSP. Just about the ONLY thing I don't like much about the car is that the steering is exceptionally heavy at high speeds. That has its positives of course but i do feel it is a bit TOO stiff and heavy. Is that a PSP thing?

findtomdotcom

697 posts

241 months

Monday 25th July 2022
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Ken, you might need to spend more time in the gym mate…..

All joking aside, my non-psp+ car has fantastic steering.

garystoybox

785 posts

118 months

Monday 25th July 2022
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Honestly find the steering superb on my 4S with RWS. Much prefer the slightly more weighty feel around the doors after years of over assisted BMW M racks. Lovely and stable at higher speeds. RWS would be the first option I’d tick if re-ordering another Taycan.

findtomdotcom

697 posts

241 months

Tuesday 26th July 2022
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I'm not surprised by that. Porsche are good at this. Out of interest have you tried one without PSP+? I would wager it feels even better. But as I said before, on a Taycan which has more value? Amazing steering or great steering and a better low speed turning circle?

Sorry I know I'm being uber geeky, but it makes for a semi-interesting conversation...

BorkBorkBork

731 posts

52 months

Tuesday 26th July 2022
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RAS on the Taycan CT is a no brainer. If for no other reason than reducing that turning circle, which it does and then some. Add in the incredible cornering, and it’s worth every penny as an option.

As regards steering feel, I’m not sure how much better it could be? But not having driven a car without PSP, I can’t really say. There’s no complaints here though.

R36vw

451 posts

147 months

Wednesday 27th July 2022
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Just found out my order(ordered Nov21) was due end Nov for my CT4S now delayed 6 months due to the battery issues. rolleyes

Ken Figenus

5,715 posts

118 months

Wednesday 27th July 2022
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I need to try one without RWS and PSP as gyms bore me to tears! As have ordered ST GTS it would be good to have proper info on this so will seek a test drive, but yes, again, RWS is SO handy on a 5m long car and even surprised me today in getting in a tight parking spot. It actively steers the rear away from the wall rather than needing you to set it up and yaw it out the way by over steering the car using the fronts - if that makes sense? Something of the horse and cart in the old way now ;-)

keithcharles2

17 posts

171 months

Friday 29th July 2022
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Ordered my Taycan Sports Turismo 4S from Porsche Hatfield in February. Was very surprised to take delivery in May. Mine has RWS which I find very useful in such a big car. Have done about 2,000 miles and loved every mile, not as much fun as the 993 but certainly more useable for day to day living. Only problem is am living in rented accommodation whilst house is being renovated so no charger.

Murph7355

37,804 posts

257 months

Friday 29th July 2022
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keithcharles2 said:
Ordered my Taycan Sports Turismo 4S from Porsche Hatfield in February. Was very surprised to take delivery in May. Mine has RWS which I find very useful in such a big car. Have done about 2,000 miles and loved every mile, not as much fun as the 993 but certainly more useable for day to day living. Only problem is am living in rented accommodation whilst house is being renovated so no charger.
Feb and May this year?!

Your own spec?

That must be some sort of record - did you have pictures of the dealer principle with a donkey or something?

mikeN54

607 posts

182 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2022
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Murph7355 said:
Feb and May this year?!

Your own spec?

That must be some sort of record - did you have pictures of the dealer principle with a donkey or something?
Lol, exactly, we ordered (rather we put 5k down just to join the queue to order) in Jan 22.

Only got a build slot for October confirmed 2 weeks ago, (delivery pre Xmas if lucky).

That was an improvement on March 23 estimate...


f1eng

151 posts

39 months

Thursday 4th August 2022
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Deposit paid on CT 4S on 19/7/21 Porsche Swindon
Scheduled for production 16/4/22
Manufacturing process complete 31/7/22

Now the wait for delivery which will normally be 3 to 4 weeks from leaving factory apparently.

Might as well be September registration.

findtomdotcom

697 posts

241 months

Thursday 4th August 2022
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Swindon are really good and have been spot on with the estimate of delivery every time for me.

21ATS

Original Poster:

1,100 posts

73 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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So to bring this thread full circle for me (as the OP) as unfortunately Taycan ownership just didn't pan out for us for a number of reasons. I needed to replace the Cross Turismo with something similar, 4 seats, estate like but not dull. So I bought this, the car I really wanted to start with, but the least tax friendly vehicle I could probably find. Obviously I bought this personally not through the business



We are still running a pair of Mazda MX-30 EV's through the business on a lease, they are just approaching a year old and each has about 7000 miles on it. They've been absolutely faultless and perfect city runabouts/dog cars/supermarket cars. So for us they work as they allow both of us to buy something silly as a second vehicle. My business partner is going with a 992 GTS at some point.

AB

17,006 posts

196 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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Lovely looking thing. Congratulations.

I have a 911 Turbo S as a personal fun car but still would not be without my Taycan. Just had delivery of my Taycan Turbo S Saloon 'confirmed' as being at the dealer mid-December. I remain cynical but hopeful.

phib

4,464 posts

260 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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21ATS said:
So to bring this thread full circle for me (as the OP) as unfortunately Taycan ownership just didn't pan out for us for a number of reasons. I needed to replace the Cross Turismo with something similar, 4 seats, estate like but not dull. So I bought this, the car I really wanted to start with, but the least tax friendly vehicle I could probably find. Obviously I bought this personally not through the business



We are still running a pair of Mazda MX-30 EV's through the business on a lease, they are just approaching a year old and each has about 7000 miles on it. They've been absolutely faultless and perfect city runabouts/dog cars/supermarket cars. So for us they work as they allow both of us to buy something silly as a second vehicle. My business partner is going with a 992 GTS at some point.
Looks amazing !

Funnily enough thsi was my other option before I bought my Taycan

Phib

ds666

2,658 posts

180 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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Lovely- bet that sounds great

21ATS

Original Poster:

1,100 posts

73 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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AB said:
Lovely looking thing. Congratulations.

I have a 911 Turbo S as a personal fun car but still would not be without my Taycan. Just had delivery of my Taycan Turbo S Saloon 'confirmed' as being at the dealer mid-December. I remain cynical but hopeful.
I cannot fault the Taycan as a piece of engineering. Our problems all stemmed from accident repair and dealer service/backup facilities.

Fundamentally Porsche have been so successful with the Taycan in the UK mainly due to the unique tax situation, that it's selling more vehicles than it has facilites to deal with.

If you get a good one that has no problems or you don't have an accident, they are awesome things.

Where ownership falls down is back up facilities.

Example - Red dash warning "do not drive return to dealer" - Phone dealer - "we can get you in in 6 weeks if you don't need a loan car or three months if you do"

Three months repair time for any sort of accident. Not because parts are a problem, simply that at all 12 approved repairers in the UK only have one tech that is trained to repair Taycans, you go in a queue and wait for that tech, If he's off sick on holiday nothing is repaired until he's back.

We were unfortunate to suffer multiple return to dealer problems on one of our cars and three incidents/minor accidents between the two cars in the short ownership we had them. We owned one for 6 months and the second for 4. They were both off the road one for 4 months one for 3 months during that time simply sat waiting to be attended to for various reasons. So in a combined 10 months of ownership we got 3 months actual use.

21ATS

Original Poster:

1,100 posts

73 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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ds666 said:
Lovely- bet that sounds great
Yeah, that noise is quite incredible, like a 90's F1 car.

AB

17,006 posts

196 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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21ATS said:
I cannot fault the Taycan as a piece of engineering. Our problems all stemmed from accident repair and dealer service/backup facilities.

Fundamentally Porsche have been so successful with the Taycan in the UK mainly due to the unique tax situation, that it's selling more vehicles than it has facilites to deal with.

If you get a good one that has no problems or you don't have an accident, they are awesome things.

Where ownership falls down is back up facilities.

Example - Red dash warning "do not drive return to dealer" - Phone dealer - "we can get you in in 6 weeks if you don't need a loan car or three months if you do"

Three months repair time for any sort of accident. Not because parts are a problem, simply that at all 12 approved repairers in the UK only have one tech that is trained to repair Taycans, you go in a queue and wait for that tech, If he's off sick on holiday nothing is repaired until he's back.

We were unfortunate to suffer multiple return to dealer problems on one of our cars and three incidents/minor accidents between the two cars in the short ownership we had them. We owned one for 6 months and the second for 4. They were both off the road one for 4 months one for 3 months during that time simply sat waiting to be attended to for various reasons. So in a combined 10 months of ownership we got 3 months actual use.
I had a couple of issues in the early days, middle of last year so before there were so many on the road I guess, and each time it was dealt with quickly and efficiently and with a courtesy car, I had a Macan, another Taycan and a 718 Boxster. Only minor things like a door rattle, software update and heater pump not playing ball. Nothing that stopped me from driving it.

I remain hopeful the next one will be OK and I will try not to crash it!

Slippydiff

14,890 posts

224 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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21ATS said:
So to bring this thread full circle for me (as the OP) as unfortunately Taycan ownership just didn't pan out for us for a number of reasons. I needed to replace the Cross Turismo with something similar, 4 seats, estate like but not dull. So I bought this, the car I really wanted to start with, but the least tax friendly vehicle I could probably find. Obviously I bought this personally not through the business



We are still running a pair of Mazda MX-30 EV's through the business on a lease, they are just approaching a year old and each has about 7000 miles on it. They've been absolutely faultless and perfect city runabouts/dog cars/supermarket cars. So for us they work as they allow both of us to buy something silly as a second vehicle. My business partner is going with a 992 GTS at some point.
Stunning cars, and a pleasantly discrete hue you've chosen too. I assume it has a Ferrari Approved warranty ? If not, probably best you get on first name terms with Martin @ Parkes Performance for when the inevitable happens.