Taycan 4S Cross Turismo

[cb31]

Digga said:

So, drove 40 minutes home last night. Wife and I had been to visit friends in Shropshire, it was about 10:30pm and minus 3. The heater would not work.

Reading up, this is a very common, but not quickly resolved fault on Taycans….

That sounds a bit crap. Got mine arriving in April/May but reading about the range issues, other problems and massive EV depreciation is making me a bit nervous.

[Digga]

cb31 said:

Digga said:

So, drove 40 minutes home last night. Wife and I had been to visit friends in Shropshire, it was about 10:30pm and minus 3. The heater would not work.

Reading up, this is a very common, but not quickly resolved fault on Taycans….

That sounds a bit crap. Got mine arriving in April/May but reading about the range issues, other problems and massive EV depreciation is making me a bit nervous.

Porsche Assist aren’t even collecting it until next month…

[ds666]

cb31 said:

Digga said:

So, drove 40 minutes home last night. Wife and I had been to visit friends in Shropshire, it was about 10:30pm and minus 3. The heater would not work.

Reading up, this is a very common, but not quickly resolved fault on Taycans….

That sounds a bit crap. Got mine arriving in April/May but reading about the range issues, other problems and massive EV depreciation is making me a bit nervous.

Great cars - enjoy

[W12GT]

cb31 said:

Digga said:

So, drove 40 minutes home last night. Wife and I had been to visit friends in Shropshire, it was about 10:30pm and minus 3. The heater would not work.

Reading up, this is a very common, but not quickly resolved fault on Taycans….

That sounds a bit crap. Got mine arriving in April/May but reading about the range issues, other problems and massive EV depreciation is making me a bit nervous.

As an ex owner I really wouldn’t bother. Almost all the issues I’ve heard of with them are on cars less than 6months old. If you really want one then IMHO you should try and find one that’s around 18-24months old that’s a good spec because they were built with the correct parts that it was designed to have and not substituted parts that are obviously inferior. If you wait until April when your new one is due then I think you will be able to grab a bargain.

[Turboteeth2001]

After an 11 month order period, I am now 1 month and 750 miles into my Taycan CT4S ownership.
The car is spot on - with all options delivered (everything ticked including Burmeister and rear seat entertainment etc!) and no supply issues - apart from the bike carrier on back order.
Real world performance is about as good as it gets and although range is currently only showing 210 miles on full charge, I think this should improve as the weather warms up.
A few points...
1. I hardly turn on the sport sound
2. The 360 camera takes some getting used to
3. It's a wide car - but easy to place on the road
4. The Burmeister stereo is superb
5. I went for the Turbo aero alloys - and it obscured the red callipers - think I'll option some open type wheels next time
6. Cherry Red is a great colour!

[AB]

W12GT said:

As an ex owner I really wouldn’t bother. Almost all the issues I’ve heard of with them are on cars less than 6months old. If you really want one then IMHO you should try and find one that’s around 18-24months old that’s a good spec because they were built with the correct parts that it was designed to have and not substituted parts that are obviously inferior. If you wait until April when your new one is due then I think you will be able to grab a bargain.

I've got a March 2021 that I'll be popping up for sale shortly. 4S in Gentian Blue with chalk/black extended leather interior and almost every option. £127k new sitting in about 16k miles. I think it's worth about £90k.

[f1eng]

I have had my CT4S for a couple of months and over 1000 miles now.
Delighted so far.
I am an engineer so none of the cold battery issues came as a surprise and were fairly easily ameliorated but no doubt the “getting everything warm” power usage at the beginning makes short journeys inefficient.

My predicted range is 235 miles on the 20” winter tyres, so OK, in fact I have only had 2 days driving it further than a full charge at home can do, so basically zero effect on my life of range, I have spent FAR less time at chargers (it is really quick to charge) than I spent at fuel stations in my similar performance petrol V8 so overall a BIG win.

I had an unusual set of options based on being tight and not ordering things I thought wouldn’t be of benefit to me, no sport sound (I switched it off within seconds on the demo, ultra naff IMO), no glass roof (since I think the sculptured ally roof looks much better as well as being lighter) but all the chassis tuning, so torque vectoring, all wheel steer and active anti-roll bars. I probably wouldn’t have bothered wit the latter if I hadn’t dropped matrix lights and Bose surround as not available.

In the end the PDLS+ lights are excellent and I don’t drive as much as I used to at night so I haven’t missed the matrix lights as much as I had expected. The standard audio is not as bad as everybody said either, it is a car after all so the environment is totally unsuited to accurate quality sound (rather than contrived effects) anyway - so again not that disappointed. I write this as somebody who attends lots of live concerts and has a home stereo costing more than the Taycan so i do know what accurate sound is like.

Anyway it was worth the 17 month wait from order to pickup for me. I plan to keep it at least 6 years.

[W12GT]

AB said:

W12GT said:

As an ex owner I really wouldn’t bother. Almost all the issues I’ve heard of with them are on cars less than 6months old. If you really want one then IMHO you should try and find one that’s around 18-24months old that’s a good spec because they were built with the correct parts that it was designed to have and not substituted parts that are obviously inferior. If you wait until April when your new one is due then I think you will be able to grab a bargain.

I've got a March 2021 that I'll be popping up for sale shortly. 4S in Gentian Blue with chalk/black extended leather interior and almost every option. £127k new sitting in about 16k miles. I think it's worth about £90k.

I hope you are right but think you may be in for a bit of a shock. I sold mine two weeks ago and was offered between 80k and 98.5k. I took the top offer and lost £500 on a 2month old sub 1k mile 4S ST. One of the dealers called me up today that I’d left a message for when I was selling her. He was gobsmacked at what I’d got and said the best he would have been able to offer was 72.5k - even a certain online company could do 74k! That’s unreal and I am so glad I got what I did. It seems to be EVs being hit particularly hard. I’m looking at an Aston and a RRS and all the dealers I’ve spoken to have said most of the cars being px’d are EVs.

[ds666]

You got £500 less than you paid for the car ?

[W12GT]

ds666 said:

You got £500 less than you paid for the car ?

Yes and I’ve also received the Porsche Experience day invite in the last week so basically broken even.

No other offers got close to what I accepted. I mean, nowhere near, not even within £5k. If you look at the Porsche website you’ll see what I mean in used Taycan 4S ST’s. When I bought there wasn’t a used one under 125k, now they are as low as £107k. Bizarrely my car hasn’t turned up as being advertised on the websites yet so maybe I got a good offer because they had a customer waiting for it.

[AB]

W12GT said:

I hope you are right but think you may be in for a bit of a shock. I sold mine two weeks ago and was offered between 80k and 98.5k. I took the top offer and lost £500 on a 2month old sub 1k mile 4S ST. One of the dealers called me up today that I’d left a message for when I was selling her. He was gobsmacked at what I’d got and said the best he would have been able to offer was 72.5k - even a certain online company could do 74k! That’s unreal and I am so glad I got what I did. It seems to be EVs being hit particularly hard. I’m looking at an Aston and a RRS and all the dealers I’ve spoken to have said most of the cars being px’d are EVs.

Offered £81k by OPC trade in so on that basis I am hoping for £90k private. My business partner got £91k privately on a very similar car.

[ds666]

W12GT said:

ds666 said:

You got £500 less than you paid for the car ?

Yes and I’ve also received the Porsche Experience day invite in the last week so basically broken even.

No other offers got close to what I accepted. I mean, nowhere near, not even within £5k. If you look at the Porsche website you’ll see what I mean in used Taycan 4S ST’s. When I bought there wasn’t a used one under 125k, now they are as low as £107k. Bizarrely my car hasn’t turned up as being advertised on the websites yet so maybe I got a good offer because they had a customer waiting for it.

I'm amazed you got such a good deal , not sure what you expected ? The premium the Taycan commanded due to short supply must have dissolved by now and the cars would return to the well worn road of massive depreciation that most always do .

I think you were very lucky

[W12GT]

ds666 said:

W12GT said:

ds666 said:

You got £500 less than you paid for the car ?

Yes and I’ve also received the Porsche Experience day invite in the last week so basically broken even.

No other offers got close to what I accepted. I mean, nowhere near, not even within £5k. If you look at the Porsche website you’ll see what I mean in used Taycan 4S ST’s. When I bought there wasn’t a used one under 125k, now they are as low as £107k. Bizarrely my car hasn’t turned up as being advertised on the websites yet so maybe I got a good offer because they had a customer waiting for it.

I'm amazed you got such a good deal , not sure what you expected ? The premium the Taycan commanded due to short supply must have dissolved by now and the cars would return to the well worn road of massive depreciation that most always do .

I think you were very lucky

Agreed. I just have to hold off on my next purchases as I’m sure if I can wait a few months (I’m not very good at that) I will be able to pick up my next cars at better value than we’ve seen recently.

[ds666]

W12GT said:

ds666 said:

W12GT said:

ds666 said:

You got £500 less than you paid for the car ?

Yes and I’ve also received the Porsche Experience day invite in the last week so basically broken even.

No other offers got close to what I accepted. I mean, nowhere near, not even within £5k. If you look at the Porsche website you’ll see what I mean in used Taycan 4S ST’s. When I bought there wasn’t a used one under 125k, now they are as low as £107k. Bizarrely my car hasn’t turned up as being advertised on the websites yet so maybe I got a good offer because they had a customer waiting for it.

I'm amazed you got such a good deal , not sure what you expected ? The premium the Taycan commanded due to short supply must have dissolved by now and the cars would return to the well worn road of massive depreciation that most always do .

I think you were very lucky

Agreed. I just have to hold off on my next purchases as I’m sure if I can wait a few months (I’m not very good at that) I will be able to pick up my next cars at better value than we’ve seen recently.

I’m not good at waiting either - hope your next purchase goes better for you

[DMC2]

I've really become attached to my 4SCT, it really is a brilliant everyday car. I'm not worried about the residual as I'll keep it for the long term until it's no longer tax efficient... And I very rarely charge it anywhere but at home.

Currently waiting on the replacement heater, that's the only issue I've had with the car. But it's a faulty component which has broken in about 60% of Taycans!

Things I love about my spec; air suspension is brilliant on our crap roads, real wheel steering is a must have, as is the glass roof, full leather, memory lift function, 18 way seats, heated steering wheel, power steering plus and electric charging point.

Things I have that I could live without; HUD, sports sound, passenger screen, fancy lights & carbon interior pack.

[Blue62]

DMC2 said:

I've really become attached to my 4SCT, it really is a brilliant everyday car. I'm not worried about the residual as I'll keep it for the long term until it's no longer tax efficient... And I very rarely charge it anywhere but at home.

Currently waiting on the replacement heater, that's the only issue I've had with the car. But it's a faulty component which has broken in about 60% of Taycans!

Things I love about my spec; air suspension is brilliant on our crap roads, real wheel steering is a must have, as is the glass roof, full leather, memory lift function, 18 way seats, heated steering wheel, power steering plus and electric charging point.

Things I have that I could live without; HUD, sports sound, passenger screen, fancy lights & carbon interior pack.

I’m with you, though mine is a 4S, think I may go CT next but I’m in no hurry. I rarely have to use public chargers but understand the issue for those who do, but I’m mightily impressed with this car and have had few problems with mine, especially since the update. Prices were bound to soften as supply issues started to ease, but used values still appear to be strong, though model and spec dependent. I still own a couple of ICE cars but it’s the Taycan keys I reach for most of the time.

[pmanson]

Still loving mine, although it did eat a full set of rubber in 14k miles and range in the cold is useless

[Digga]

pmanson said:

Still loving mine, although it did eat a full set of rubber in 14k miles and range in the cold is useless

Strong pair there.

An EV and an early 2000 ICE sports car are a wonderful contrast.

[pheonix478]

To counter the negativity slightly my '21 4S has been faultless in 10000 miles. I know 4 others with 4s and 2 with Turbo S and no one else has had any issues, either with brand new (Dec 22) or older cars... it's a major talking point because apparently our local dealer will have to fly someone in with the appropriate kit so we're all waiting for the first person to have a problem to pile on and get a service and all the updates done

[diamondo]

Looking at residuals on my CT 4S and it's a bit alarming tbh. £100k list, car is 1y/o, 14k miles and the trade in value is £67,900. I leased it at a cost of about £8k per year once I factor in BIK etc but that is some truly mental 1st year depreciation.