Taycan owner experiences?

[Murph7355]

Curledge said:

Murph7355 said:

If the future is driving washing machines like this, I'm OK with it

Its a free world currently but I won't be seen dead in 1.
Rather get an Uber and let some other muppet drive me

Your prerogative. I'm sure you'll enjoy the Uber experience

Out of interest, what do you drive now?

Edited by Murph7355 on Saturday 26th February 21:33

[BorkBorkBork]

Curledge said:

BorkBorkBork said:

If you are predominately charging at home, the cost to run it should still be less half of what you’d pay for something that does 40mpg. And with some predicting £1.80 a litre in the coming weeks, who knows where that will end up.

And there’s more evidence tonight of another fuel shortage in the offing. I never thought queuing for fuel would be a thing in my lifetime. But we’ve seen just how fragile the supply chain can be when people start panic buying.

Where do u think all the electricity is coming from.

Can you imagine the length of the queue whilst everyone has to wait for the 1 charger that is free and working

I never have to queue to use my charger. And I’ve never had to queue to use a public one either. The network continues to grow, and I don’t see any issues with the take up of EV’s and roll out of additional capacity.

I’d watch this. This was posted in 2019, but you naysayers are still banging the same drum.

https://youtu.be/VyZOLMeMYnI

If every ice car disappeared overnight and was replaced by an EV, you have a point. But your assumptions are based on zero progress with the technology, especially in energy storage and smart grid technology.

And as regards the driving experience, you clearly haven’t driven a Taycan.

Edited by BorkBorkBork on Saturday 26th February 21:06

[Monkeylegend]

finmac said:

I have heard a few express such a view. What’s your rationale?

The big black hole looming from falling VED on ICE cars.

[ds666]

Monkeylegend said:

finmac said:

I have heard a few express such a view. What’s your rationale?

The big black hole looming from falling VED on ICE cars.

You do understand how tax works and what it causes ?
Like the window tax . Or the tax on how much land your ground floor takes up ?
History explains it .. maybe read up on it ?

[garystoybox]

ds666 said:

Curledge said:

Murph7355 said:

If the future is driving washing machines like this, I'm OK with it

Its a free world currently but I won't be seen dead in 1.
Rather get an Uber and let some other muppet drive me

Sad , very sad .

What do you expect? Classic Rambo Lambo….. he just can’t help himself.

[anonymous-user]

ds666 said:

So your main issue is “ being seen in one “

Mmm . Peacock

My main issues are they are heavy, boring and not as Eco friendly as the govt and Eco warriors lead you to believe. For most people a fuel efficient ICE vehicle is still the best option unless you are doing big annual mileage and lets face it its hard to do big mileage in an EV.
Also factor in the lack of infra structure and range anxiety it just does not work for the mass public

How the hell am I supposed to charge my £50k EV from my 8th floor council flat ?

[BorkBorkBork]

Curledge said:

ds666 said:

So your main issue is “ being seen in one “

Mmm . Peacock

My main issues are they are heavy, boring and not as Eco friendly as the govt and Eco warriors lead you to believe. For most people a fuel efficient ICE vehicle is still the best option unless you are doing big annual mileage and lets face it its hard to do big mileage in an EV.
Also factor in the lack of infra structure and range anxiety it just does not work for the mass public

How the hell am I supposed to charge my £50k EV from my 8th floor council flat ?

Starting in April there are going to be government incentives for Apartment blocks to have charging points installed in parking bays. And as it’ll add value to the properties, I suspect many management companies will encourage owners to vote in favour of mass uptake.

Up to £850 will be granted for each parking space allocated a chargepoint, and up to £500 will be awarded for parking spaces provided with the infrastructure to install a chargepoint in the future. At least five spaces per block must be dedicated charging bays with one or more accessible chargepoints.

Edited by BorkBorkBork on Sunday 27th February 13:27

[Murph7355]

Curledge said:

My main issues are they are heavy, boring and not as Eco friendly as the govt and Eco warriors lead you to believe. ....

- heavy : agreed. A drawback and far from ideal. But try a good one.

- boring : nope. Some are, of course. Most? Maybe. But then most ICE cars are. Try a good one. Ask for it to have window tints or wear a mask. I defy you to find the way a Taycan goes/handles "boring". Get beyond your blinkers.

- Eco-ness : jury's out. I agree they bring their own issues, and with so little strategy around our energy provision and far from convinced any savings will be material. But I can see the logic in the theories at least. Regardless, the changes are coming. Dig your head into the sand all you like, they're coming. We should be thankful that "not boring" examples are starting to come forwards.


It generally pays to try and keep an open mind about all things in life.

So, what do you drive?

[ds666]

Murph7355 said:

Curledge said:

My main issues are they are heavy, boring and not as Eco friendly as the govt and Eco warriors lead you to believe. ....

- heavy : agreed. A drawback and far from ideal. But try a good one.

- boring : nope. Some are, of course. Most? Maybe. But then most ICE cars are. Try a good one. Ask for it to have window tints or wear a mask. I defy you to find the way a Taycan goes/handles "boring". Get beyond your blinkers.

- Eco-ness : jury's out. I agree they bring their own issues, and with so little strategy around our energy provision and far from convinced any savings will be material. But I can see the logic in the theories at least. Regardless, the changes are coming. Dig your head into the sand all you like, they're coming. We should be thankful that "not boring" examples are starting to come forwards.


It generally pays to try and keep an open mind about all things in life.

So, what do you drive?

I’m guessing anything his dad lets him borrow …

So much rubbish about evs from people with no real experience of them .

[anonymous-user]

ds666 said:

I’m guessing anything his dad lets him borrow …

So much rubbish about evs from people with no real experience of them .

Says the resident EV expert.
So what exactly are your credentials ?
Maybe you have worked in R & D in the motor industry for 30 years ?

[ds666]

Curledge said:

ds666 said:

I’m guessing anything his dad lets him borrow …

So much rubbish about evs from people with no real experience of them .

Says the resident EV expert.
So what exactly are your credentials ?
Maybe you have worked in R & D in the motor industry for 30 years ?

Never claimed to be an expert . We have run evs for 8 years so have real experience.
I did work in the motor industry too , but only for 16 years .

But that’s enough about me - what’s your real life experience ?

[David W.]

Curledge said:

My main issues are they are heavy, boring and not as Eco friendly as the govt and Eco warriors lead you to believe. For most people a fuel efficient ICE vehicle is still the best option unless you are doing big annual mileage and lets face it its hard to do big mileage in an EV.
Also factor in the lack of infra structure and range anxiety it just does not work for the mass public

How the hell am I supposed to charge my £50k EV from my 8th floor council flat ?

People with council flats buying £50k cars, what is the world coming to?

[DMZ]

finmac said:

I am pondering a Deposit for Macan EV but not sure if it’s going to be a car for me or not, so I’d really appreciated some advice from current Taycan owners as I suspect many things will apply to both…..

By way of background, For daily I run a fully loaded BMW 340D touring on all weather tyres and it’s brilliant in terms of all round ability, performance, economy, snow (I live in the sticks and drive in Scottish highlands regularly) plus has en electric tow bar so can tow my Caterham in trailer without missing a beat. So, the EV will have to be really good to better it!

Interested in the usual stuff like:
Running cost (v my 40MPG diesel)
Range
Use ability

Also any general info/comments most welcome!

If you need to tow and you want to switch to EV then I’d say sticking with BMW is the way to go. The i4 can tow 1,600kg and the iX can tow 2,500kg. A thing to remember is that you may well exceed the 3,500kg B licence weight limit if it’s an issue.

I think I would take an iX over a Taycan personally irrespective of towing requirements. The interior is really nice and I doubt the last in chassis amazingness really matters that much. You have a Caterham after all.

Then there’s of course the fact that you already have a car that does the job effortlessly so why change?

[Grantstown]

I’ve recently taken our Taycan 4S from Cheshire to Banff in Scotland. Overall not a bad experience as I charged at Ionity in Gretna and then Perth so there was no need to hypermile the car. There were chargers in Banff and my charge Scotland card worked perfectly for this purpose. The charge Scotland app shows are pretty decent overall network. It was snowing up there and the car copes well. I’ve had a 435d before, so fairly similar to your car. The Taycan has more traction and corners flatter. It’s not so great on tight hairpins if you’re on a blast, but then I didn’t option RWS which probably would help with this.

Whether the Macan will be a good bet I’m not sure. I doubt SUVs will make the most of the EV experience and range may be an issue if towing, so I guess that depends on where you want to take the Caterham. There are loads of deposits down for the Macan electric I understand, so you’ve probably missed the boat on being an early customer. If you could have taken one of these slots, then you might have been able to take an extended test drive on delivery and then if you didn’t like it, offload for a small profit.

Probably the best bet is to enjoy the tax advantages of the EV and also keep an old diesel 4x4 for towing purposes.

[TNH]

I've just put a deposit down on a Taycan Sport Turismo to replace my M4.

I also considered a Macan GTS but given the savings on road tax and fuel (I can charge at home) then it works out cheaper than the Macan. I also prefer that the Taycan is a more tradition saloon / estate and has a low driving position. I've never been one for SUVs but the Macan does drive really well in fairness.

[finmac]

Grantstown said:

I’ve recently taken our Taycan 4S from Cheshire to Banff in Scotland. Overall not a bad experience as I charged at Ionity in Gretna and then Perth so there was no need to hypermile the car. There were chargers in Banff and my charge Scotland card worked perfectly for this purpose. The charge Scotland app shows are pretty decent overall network. It was snowing up there and the car copes well. I’ve had a 435d before, so fairly similar to your car. The Taycan has more traction and corners flatter. It’s not so great on tight hairpins if you’re on a blast, but then I didn’t option RWS which probably would help with this.

Whether the Macan will be a good bet I’m not sure. I doubt SUVs will make the most of the EV experience and range may be an issue if towing, so I guess that depends on where you want to take the Caterham. There are loads of deposits down for the Macan electric I understand, so you’ve probably missed the boat on being an early customer. If you could have taken one of these slots, then you might have been able to take an extended test drive on delivery and then if you didn’t like it, offload for a small profit.

Probably the best bet is to enjoy the tax advantages of the EV and also keep an old diesel 4x4 for towing purposes.

Good write up thanks. I am near the front of the Macan EV queue at my dealer plus a repeat customer so suspect that may help get me an early car, who knows. Given the likely volume of customers I was tempted to buy, try and if I don’t like it then simply offload it fairly quickly with little cost. Maybe that works, maybe that’s naive - not sure!

[CloudStuff]

finmac said:

I am pondering a Deposit for Macan EV but not sure if it’s going to be a car for me or not, so I’d really appreciated some advice from current Taycan owners as I suspect many things will apply to both…..

By way of background, For daily I run a fully loaded BMW 340D touring on all weather tyres and it’s brilliant in terms of all round ability, performance, economy, snow (I live in the sticks and drive in Scottish highlands regularly) plus has en electric tow bar so can tow my Caterham in trailer without missing a beat. So, the EV will have to be really good to better it!

Interested in the usual stuff like:
Running cost (v my 40MPG diesel)
Range
Use ability

Also any general info/comments most welcome!

I bought a Turbo CT in Oct and just sold it. I sold it for tax reasons.

In terms of usability and likeability - quite simply an awesome car. The ultimate daily.

Feel free to dm me to chat if you like - this thread seems to be more about hatred and point scoring, which is a little odd.

[Grantstown]

finmac said:

Good write up thanks. I am near the front of the Macan EV queue at my dealer plus a repeat customer so suspect that may help get me an early car, who knows. Given the likely volume of customers I was tempted to buy, try and if I don’t like it then simply offload it fairly quickly with little cost. Maybe that works, maybe that’s naive - not sure!

I don’t think it’s naive in this situation. It’s an EV and it’s a Porsche, so I think there’s little doubt that these are going to sell well. If you’re going to get an early car, then I think that the worst case scenario is that you won’t like it and you take a small loss. I think you’d be really unlucky to take a big hit. Now that you’ve got me thinking about this, I think I’ll give my OPC a call and see what the deal is about taking deposits.

[DMC2]

I owned a Taycan for six months, bought for tax reasons.

Excellent build quality.
Acceleration was crazy, but made me feel sick after a while.
Defied physics given the weight, but it is not a sports car. As soon as you push you feel the weight.
Great GT car.
Made other GT cars seem prehistoric.
Charging network is a joke.
Fast chargers are bloody expensive to use.
Hated the range anxiety.

[finmac]

Interesting comments thanks. For those who have been in and out of Taycan ownership, I wonder, was it a break even type situation or did it cost a bit for the privilege?