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Ps re potholes.
My Tesla on 21 inch rims (model S) has gone through 5 rims and 4 tyres in 2.5 years. That is after going through 0 tyres and 0 rims in the preceding 27 years of driving other cars.
I think the weight of large electric cars has grown faster than the strength of wheels or tyres.
What my RS6 would shrug at the Tesla smashes into and damages itself.
I am good mates with the local wheelworx who unbend them each time.
Likely similar with a Taycan (which will likely be my next car).
My Tesla on 21 inch rims (model S) has gone through 5 rims and 4 tyres in 2.5 years. That is after going through 0 tyres and 0 rims in the preceding 27 years of driving other cars.
I think the weight of large electric cars has grown faster than the strength of wheels or tyres.
What my RS6 would shrug at the Tesla smashes into and damages itself.
I am good mates with the local wheelworx who unbend them each time.
Likely similar with a Taycan (which will likely be my next car).
ReformedPistonhead said:
Ps re potholes.
My Tesla on 21 inch rims (model S) has gone through 5 rims and 4 tyres in 2.5 years. That is after going through 0 tyres and 0 rims in the preceding 27 years of driving other cars.
I think the weight of large electric cars has grown faster than the strength of wheels or tyres.
What my RS6 would shrug at the Tesla smashes into and damages itself.
I am good mates with the local wheelworx who unbend them each time.
Likely similar with a Taycan (which will likely be my next car).
It may not be similar. Different companies have different targets to deliver to. They can vary greatly.My Tesla on 21 inch rims (model S) has gone through 5 rims and 4 tyres in 2.5 years. That is after going through 0 tyres and 0 rims in the preceding 27 years of driving other cars.
I think the weight of large electric cars has grown faster than the strength of wheels or tyres.
What my RS6 would shrug at the Tesla smashes into and damages itself.
I am good mates with the local wheelworx who unbend them each time.
Likely similar with a Taycan (which will likely be my next car).
It was less the damage to the wheel that bothered me, with 21" wheels and low profile tyres it's not really a surprise the wheels got damaged, it's an inevitability.
For me the problem was then the way the claim was handled, the sheer volume of seemingly unecessary parts being changed as a matter of course even if there appeared to be no damage to the parts whatsoever. The two-three months of the car being off the road as it sat in a queue, not waiting for parts, but waiting for the only Taycan technician that's qualified at each approved repairer to have a slot available to repair your car.
The arbitary "your warranty will be void if you don't do this work" which when I checked with Porsche and the OPC they had no knowledge of this policy and no proof whatsoever it existed. The approved repairer was also unable to provide me with proof of this being a documented requirement. The insurers and inspecting engineers just took it on verbal presentation from the reparier on the grounds they are Porsche approved.
The refusal by both the repairers and insurers to return my car when I wanted to take it elsewhere on the grounds it was now "unsafe" and couldn't be returned to me until the repairs had made it roadworthy again.
I took delivery of my car on 5th February, It was collected 10 days later for repair, I still don't have it, it's still parked in a parking lot at the repairer.
It is a lovely car, it's just not practical as a daily driver in my opinion, which is exactly what I bought it to be. With the market being in the unusal position it is I can get out of the car at no cost or maybe even with a small profit, which makes the decision easy to make. Had we been in normal circumstance and i'd be taking 20%+ financial bath on selling, then the reality is we'd be stuck in and likely keep them.
I'm not going to slate the car, we bought two, it turned out they aren't what either of us hoped for or expected from our first Porsches, however we're able to get rid of them seemingly without financial penalty. You learn and move on. It is very unlikely either of will us will buy another Porsche though.
Strangely though, as a petrol head there is very little I'm interested in replacing it with. We have daily Mazda MX-30's EV's leased on a whim which work so well at being a daily runaround it left us wondering what we'd actually ordered the Taycan's for once the problems started.
I have a Mercedes SL I've owned from new which isn't going anytime soon. So the only thing I'd really have any interest in buying over a Taycan CT is a Ferrari FF, which is likely to be a delicate moneypit. Unlike the Taycan though I'd be buying an FF expecting it to be a delicate moneypit. That's the difference.
For me the problem was then the way the claim was handled, the sheer volume of seemingly unecessary parts being changed as a matter of course even if there appeared to be no damage to the parts whatsoever. The two-three months of the car being off the road as it sat in a queue, not waiting for parts, but waiting for the only Taycan technician that's qualified at each approved repairer to have a slot available to repair your car.
The arbitary "your warranty will be void if you don't do this work" which when I checked with Porsche and the OPC they had no knowledge of this policy and no proof whatsoever it existed. The approved repairer was also unable to provide me with proof of this being a documented requirement. The insurers and inspecting engineers just took it on verbal presentation from the reparier on the grounds they are Porsche approved.
The refusal by both the repairers and insurers to return my car when I wanted to take it elsewhere on the grounds it was now "unsafe" and couldn't be returned to me until the repairs had made it roadworthy again.
I took delivery of my car on 5th February, It was collected 10 days later for repair, I still don't have it, it's still parked in a parking lot at the repairer.
It is a lovely car, it's just not practical as a daily driver in my opinion, which is exactly what I bought it to be. With the market being in the unusal position it is I can get out of the car at no cost or maybe even with a small profit, which makes the decision easy to make. Had we been in normal circumstance and i'd be taking 20%+ financial bath on selling, then the reality is we'd be stuck in and likely keep them.
I'm not going to slate the car, we bought two, it turned out they aren't what either of us hoped for or expected from our first Porsches, however we're able to get rid of them seemingly without financial penalty. You learn and move on. It is very unlikely either of will us will buy another Porsche though.
Strangely though, as a petrol head there is very little I'm interested in replacing it with. We have daily Mazda MX-30's EV's leased on a whim which work so well at being a daily runaround it left us wondering what we'd actually ordered the Taycan's for once the problems started.
I have a Mercedes SL I've owned from new which isn't going anytime soon. So the only thing I'd really have any interest in buying over a Taycan CT is a Ferrari FF, which is likely to be a delicate moneypit. Unlike the Taycan though I'd be buying an FF expecting it to be a delicate moneypit. That's the difference.
ReformedPistonhead said:
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I think the weight of large electric cars has grown faster than the strength of wheels or tyres.
What my RS6 would shrug at the Tesla smashes into and damages itself.....
I doubt very much this is an issue.I think the weight of large electric cars has grown faster than the strength of wheels or tyres.
What my RS6 would shrug at the Tesla smashes into and damages itself.....
Model dependent, of course, there's somewhere between 100-200kg of extra weight in a Model S over an RS6. The difference of a passenger or two and/or luggage. I doubt wheels generically are built to that level of tolerance.
It may, of course, be that Tesla wheels aren't as strong as Audi ones.
I had a Maserati GT wheel let go, and that "only" weighed 1800kg or so. I put that firmly down to the s
te condition of the road I was on, and suspect that's the biggest factor at play.Jonny TVR said:
Murph7355 said:
Just don't go on the configurator twice a day....you'll be Turbo S fully loaded soon...
Jonny TVR said:
Murph7355 said:
Just don't go on the configurator twice a day....you'll be Turbo S fully loaded soon...
I've got an order in for a GTS which should be early next year. However, having the patience of a saint (?!), I couldn't wait so I bought a base Taycan in the meantime that was a cancelled order. It has almost no options - not even a pan roof! Wasn't expecting much but it's actually so good a car I wonder if I really need anything else. It's black, with 20" turbo wheels and privacy glass and I think it looks great in that spec. So few are ordered without a glass roof that you never see the cool double bubble standard roof.
The handling on the standard springs is something else for an electric car. It's not particularly quick, but the more I drive it the less I'm bothered by that. It's quick by normal standards and as a daily driver I'm not really bombing about at silly speeds. All not what I was expecting.
The only thing I really miss is memory seats!! What a palaver that is...
The handling on the standard springs is something else for an electric car. It's not particularly quick, but the more I drive it the less I'm bothered by that. It's quick by normal standards and as a daily driver I'm not really bombing about at silly speeds. All not what I was expecting.
The only thing I really miss is memory seats!! What a palaver that is...
Junior Bianno said:
I've got an order in for a GTS which should be early next year. However, having the patience of a saint (?!), I couldn't wait so I bought a base Taycan in the meantime that was a cancelled order. It has almost no options - not even a pan roof! Wasn't expecting much but it's actually so good a car I wonder if I really need anything else. It's black, with 20" turbo wheels and privacy glass and I think it looks great in that spec. So few are ordered without a glass roof that you never see the cool double bubble standard roof.
The handling on the standard springs is something else for an electric car. It's not particularly quick, but the more I drive it the less I'm bothered by that. It's quick by normal standards and as a daily driver I'm not really bombing about at silly speeds. All not what I was expecting.
The only thing I really miss is memory seats!! What a palaver that is...
Is it flat black or metallic?The handling on the standard springs is something else for an electric car. It's not particularly quick, but the more I drive it the less I'm bothered by that. It's quick by normal standards and as a daily driver I'm not really bombing about at silly speeds. All not what I was expecting.
The only thing I really miss is memory seats!! What a palaver that is...
My spec isn't locked down yet and I have provisionally spec'd Gentian Blue but I am tempted to use the cash for other options if the non-metallic black is ok. All the blacks I've seen are metallic and I begrudge paying for a black when a free ones available!
TNH said:
Is it flat black or metallic?
My spec isn't locked down yet and I have provisionally spec'd Gentian Blue but I am tempted to use the cash for other options if the non-metallic black is ok. All the blacks I've seen are metallic and I begrudge paying for a black when a free ones available!
It's metallic. Don't know about the non I'm afraidMy spec isn't locked down yet and I have provisionally spec'd Gentian Blue but I am tempted to use the cash for other options if the non-metallic black is ok. All the blacks I've seen are metallic and I begrudge paying for a black when a free ones available!
I'm 2nd on the list at my local OPC for a Turbo S Saloon, ordered in Feb, I've been told not to expect it until next year. I actually had lunch with the DP a few weeks ago and he laughed and said he had no idea when I'll get it. So I'm rocking my year old 4S until then, which means I'm not biting my fingernails with expectation.
I've got 21" and I've hit loads of potholes without almost writing it off.
I've got 21" and I've hit loads of potholes without almost writing it off.
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