Used Taycan 4S Incoming

[Cpb1702]

Used Taycan 4S in Ice Gray incoming! 70 plate. Really nice spec and 11k mileage: £80k. To me was £112k new. Inc a trip to Porsche Experience. Not seen it in the flesh yet but deposit placed. Any thing i need to consider ask for clarity on?

The spec:

▪ Electric folding exterior mirrors
▪ Side Window Trims in Black (high-gloss)
▪ ‘PORSCHE’ Logo LED Door Courtesy Lights
▪ Model Designation painted in Black (high-gloss)
▪ Porsche Electric Sport Sound
▪ Performance Battery Plus
▪ Sport Chrono Package
▪ Porsche Surface Coated Brake (PSCB)
▪ Rear-Axle Steering including Power Steering Plus
▪ Wheels painted in Black (high-gloss)
▪ 21-Inch Mission E Design Wheels
▪ Ioniser
▪ Ambient Lighting
▪ Comfort Seats in Front (14-Way, Electric) with
▪ Storage Package
▪ Crayon seat belts
▪ Door Sill Guards Carbon matt, illuminated
▪ BOSE® Surround Sound System
▪ Electric charging port cover
▪ On-Board DC-Charger with 150 kW
▪ Mobile Charger Connect
▪ Cable Connection between Control Unit and Vehicle: 7.5m
▪ Public Charging Cable (Mode 3)
▪ Exclusive Matrix LED headlights in Glacier Ice Blue with
Porsche Dynamic Light System Plus
▪ Panoramic fixed glass roof
▪ Privacy Glass
▪ ParkAssist including Surround View
▪ 3D Surround View with Active Parking Support

[DMC2]

Has the heater been replaced. I'd be asking that

[Blue62]

Similar spec to mine, I’m sure it will have had the update but worth confirming. Great car, enjoy

[Cpb1702]

Heater is to be replaced. Any other updates I should be asking for?

[bennno]

Cpb1702 said:

Heater is to be replaced. Any other updates I should be asking for?

Whether they can get the heater and replace it prior to delivery?

If not then I’d pass as supposedly lots off road, or without heaters.

[DMC2]

bennno said:

Whether they can get the heater and replace it prior to delivery?

If not then I’d pass as supposedly lots off road, or without heaters.

One dealership has 120 cars waiting on heaters... currently new Taycans are on stop as they have been stealing the heaters out of those cars to keep current customers happy. Should be a recall, but they can't due to the lack of parts.

[AB]

Cpb1702 said:

Heater is to be replaced.

You might be able to collect it this year then.

ETA: Aside from the heater issue, you have all the main boxes ticked and looks like a good buy. You're paying not a lot more than I got p/x on my 2021 4S w/16,000 miles.

Edited by AB on Wednesday 15th March 11:54

[Cpb1702]

Thanks AB.

Will see what the response is on the heater.

[Grantstown]

My heater is 2 years old and still working fine. Maybe my luck will run out, but I had no problems getting my car in for a 2 year service recently. It’d be interesting to know the proportion they have problems. 150 waiting on one OPC seems crazy, so I’m doubtful on that number. I wonder if they’ve even sold 150 Taycans ever, given the supply problems.

[bridggar1]

My local OPC staff are not allowed to park in the carpark (it's a massive site!) because there's no room due to the returned cars and recent delivery of unsalable new cars (awaiting parts but shipped anyway)

[Discombobulate]

bridggar1 said:

My local OPC staff are not allowed to park in the carpark (it's a massive site!) because there's no room due to the returned cars and recent delivery of unsalable new cars (awaiting parts but shipped anyway)

Not sure about staff parking, but our local OPC compound looks like it's hosting the annual meeting of the GB Taycan Owners' Club.

[DMC2]

I just got rid of mine after 6 months. I don't care about the financial benefits enough to put up with the negatives, which included:

8 weeks without a heater over winter
Inconsistent brake performance (common complaint)
Christmas light warnings on the dash (until you restart)
Awful battery performance over winter (170 miles when I did have a heater on a full charge)
Down on performance (something happened after one of the many updates)
What felt like turbo lag in normal mode (obviously the torque was cut by the software), had to be in sport to get rid of it

That and I attempted to go on a long journey. OMG our charging network on the motorways is abysmal. Broken chargers, lower than expect KWs.

I won't consider electric again for a LONG time, even as a second car.

[Cpb1702]

What model did you have out of interest? Did you have the performance battery?

[bennno]

DMC2 said:

I just got rid of mine after 6 months. I don't care about the financial benefits enough to put up with the negatives, which included:

8 weeks without a heater over winter
Inconsistent brake performance (common complaint)
Christmas light warnings on the dash (until you restart)
Awful battery performance over winter (170 miles when I did have a heater on a full charge)
Down on performance (something happened after one of the many updates)
What felt like turbo lag in normal mode (obviously the torque was cut by the software), had to be in sport to get rid of it

That and I attempted to go on a long journey. OMG our charging network on the motorways is abysmal. Broken chargers, lower than expect KWs.

I won't consider electric again for a LONG time, even as a second car.

I have a humble ionic 5, same 800v electronic gubbins as Taycan, but comments re winter range and charger network are bang on.

[Blue62]

It strikes me that experiences among Taycan owners is more varied than any other car I’ve owned. I think I’ve been pretty fortunate, no heater issues or PCM problems since the update and I’m getting over 200 miles through the winter. The brakes don’t fill me with confidence, but tend to be more consistent in sport mode, but I get occasional issues in my S63 and had similar with an RS6.

I absolutely get the disappointment of some, but I have been generally delighted with mine, it just drives so well and costs me very little to run on my average journeys.

[Cpb1702]

Good to hear a positive balanced view on your experience

[Grantstown]

Blue62 said:

It strikes me that experiences among Taycan owners is more varied than any other car I’ve owned. I think I’ve been pretty fortunate, no heater issues or PCM problems since the update and I’m getting over 200 miles through the winter. The brakes don’t fill me with confidence, but tend to be more consistent in sport mode, but I get occasional issues in my S63 and had similar with an RS6.

I absolutely get the disappointment of some, but I have been generally delighted with mine, it just drives so well and costs me very little to run on my average journeys.

This is my experience also.

[W12GT]

Grantstown said:

Blue62 said:

It strikes me that experiences among Taycan owners is more varied than any other car I’ve owned. I think I’ve been pretty fortunate, no heater issues or PCM problems since the update and I’m getting over 200 miles through the winter. The brakes don’t fill me with confidence, but tend to be more consistent in sport mode, but I get occasional issues in my S63 and had similar with an RS6.

I absolutely get the disappointment of some, but I have been generally delighted with mine, it just drives so well and costs me very little to run on my average journeys.

This is my experience also.

I’d never have another one after my 2nd was so disappointing. As others have said, I spoke to a a few dealerships when I was selling mine and one had 40 Taycans returned in a month. I’ve also heard about dealers taking delivery and holding new cars to fit components that weren’t available at build time, things like Bose amps, windscreen wiper motors and the ‘12V’ batteries. Looking on Porsche website I’m shocked as to how many new unregistered cars are now available.

[Grantstown]

W12GT said:

Grantstown said:

Blue62 said:

It strikes me that experiences among Taycan owners is more varied than any other car I’ve owned. I think I’ve been pretty fortunate, no heater issues or PCM problems since the update and I’m getting over 200 miles through the winter. The brakes don’t fill me with confidence, but tend to be more consistent in sport mode, but I get occasional issues in my S63 and had similar with an RS6.

I absolutely get the disappointment of some, but I have been generally delighted with mine, it just drives so well and costs me very little to run on my average journeys.

This is my experience also.

I’d never have another one after my 2nd was so disappointing. As others have said, I spoke to a a few dealerships when I was selling mine and one had 40 Taycans returned in a month. I’ve also heard about dealers taking delivery and holding new cars to fit components that weren’t available at build time, things like Bose amps, windscreen wiper motors and the ‘12V’ batteries. Looking on Porsche website I’m shocked as to how many new unregistered cars are now available.

That sounds pretty bad. I’ve also heard about new cars being held back pending parts becoming available. These issues are of course affecting any new Porsche at the moment.

Porsche do have a very strong brand, but maybe that is being diluted by the ever increasing volume of production. If the quality is dropping off as well, then surely at some point they will have a problem. Even the super special limited run cars are being launched every 3 months and may start to look a little less rare than they would initially seem to be.

[Cpb1702]

Too late I have it now great so far will be interesting on the residuals but I’ve got a GFV so it can go back if depreciation is heavy. There’s nothing comes close to the car aspirationally based on the monthlies through the company.