So, the Dacia Sandero... the UK's cheapest new car @ £5995
Discussion
Dr Interceptor said:
It's nice to see a return to the old school days, where the base model had black plastic bumpers and no kit. No frills motoring for those who want it.
Interesting to me to buy one as a company pool car, they're cheap enough not to have to lease/finance, and it can sit in the car park without having to worry about it. Given how badly abused my pool cars are, I think this might be the way forward
But on a pool car nobody gets stung for company car tax and everything's deductible.Interesting to me to buy one as a company pool car, they're cheap enough not to have to lease/finance, and it can sit in the car park without having to worry about it. Given how badly abused my pool cars are, I think this might be the way forward
Which means a barge makes most sense. Years back where I used to work it was a Rover 827 automatic.
Hyundai and Kia will be watching this car closely.
shirleynot said:
107/C1/Aygo are all from recognised and trusted manufacturers, that's why they hold their values well. Dacia is a cheapo brand and will only sell well as a new car with warranty and cheap servicing, once out of warranty they will be worth f
k all.
60% depreciation on £6k is £3600.k all.40% depreciation on an average £15k supermini os £6k
so percentages don't really refelct what you're often losing.
Bear in mind that back in the 80s, despite the popularity of GTIs and Turbos, the Lada, Proton and rear-engined Skodas also sold happily to people who wanted basic transport. We weren't all Crockett and Tubbs. No, I never bought one but know plenty of people who did.
shirleynot said:
107/C1/Aygo are all from recognised and trusted manufacturers, that's why they hold their values well. Dacia is a cheapo brand and will only sell well as a new car with warranty and cheap servicing, once out of warranty they will be worth fk all.
And I imagine the likely buyers won't care .... keep it for three years and even if it's worth zero it's depreciated a lot less than most alternatives.k all.After 3-4 years when the warranty/new-ness runs out, and things are more upbeat in our economy allowing for easier credit this motor will be long forgotten.
It's pretty sad they think they should sell such a cheapo motor in UK - surely we're higher in the motoring food chain than that.
It's pretty sad they think they should sell such a cheapo motor in UK - surely we're higher in the motoring food chain than that.
HTP99 said:
Birdster said:
I've driven plenty of snotters, so I'm not a car snob. I still own one. But if it's an awful car to be in, wind noise, ride etc than what's the point?
As much as a 107 is cheap motoring, it isn't a bad steer.
I hope it does well, as it will bring in new car motoring to the masses. It just needs to be a resonable car, not just cheap.
Yes the 107 isn't a bad steer however I can hardly see being inside a Sandero being worse than one and having worse wind noise and ride too, 107's are hardly the last word in refinement and quiet comfortable motoring! As much as a 107 is cheap motoring, it isn't a bad steer.
I hope it does well, as it will bring in new car motoring to the masses. It just needs to be a resonable car, not just cheap.
I'm not against the car. I hope it does well. I just think people are getting hung up on the price. If something is too good to be true, it normally is.
I reserve judgement until they are out and on the UK roads and people actually start parting with their money.
esvcg said:
aAfter 3-4 years when the warranty/new-ness runs out, and things are more upbeat in our economy allowing for easier credit this motor will be long forgotten.
It's pretty sad they think they should sell such a cheapo motor in UK - surely we're higher in the motoring food chain than that.
I'd say the opposite - that it's sad that so few manufacturers do offer genuine "budget" cars. Why would someone who only wants a car for popping to the shops want to spend any more?It's pretty sad they think they should sell such a cheapo motor in UK - surely we're higher in the motoring food chain than that.
kambites said:
esvcg said:
aAfter 3-4 years when the warranty/new-ness runs out, and things are more upbeat in our economy allowing for easier credit this motor will be long forgotten.
It's pretty sad they think they should sell such a cheapo motor in UK - surely we're higher in the motoring food chain than that.
I'd say the opposite - that it's sad that so few manufacturers do offer genuine "budget" cars. Why would someone who only wants a car for popping to the shops want to spend any more?It's pretty sad they think they should sell such a cheapo motor in UK - surely we're higher in the motoring food chain than that.
shirleynot said:
Maybe good value but would you seriously (and honestly) want to own a Dacia? 
You assume people can afford something else which is not always the case. This car offers 2012 safety standards in a brand new car in lieu of a 2008 Fiesta/Corsa. Many parents will be happy to buy it just for the peace of mind standard ESC brings and a full warranty and reliability.esvcg said:
Sure your right, but the headline for this motor is that it's cheap. I would guess if we weren't in recession this car would never be sold here, so their kinda playing off economic misery!
What's wrong with that? They're providing a product that the market (presumably) demands; that's a good thing. esvcg said:
After 3-4 years when the warranty/new-ness runs out, and things are more upbeat in our economy allowing for easier credit this motor will be long forgotten.
It's pretty sad they think they should sell such a cheapo motor in UK - surely we're higher in the motoring food chain than that.
It's possible that in 3 years time Dacia will have made a reputation. I think tougher credit is a step change that will be with us for a long time to come and it's not necessarily a bad thing. Not in the long term anyhow.It's pretty sad they think they should sell such a cheapo motor in UK - surely we're higher in the motoring food chain than that.
Talk of being "higher in the motoring food chain" is silly; it's a modern Renault underneath so doesn't really bare comparison with FSOs and Ladas based on ancient FIATs. That 900cc turbo is bang up to date.
Coming soon to a driving school and rental company near you.
shirleynot said:
HTP99 said:
The base one will account for around 5-7% of sales so it wont even figure, the next spec up will be £6595, for people who don't want A/C and they are out there, and the top spec with everything will be £7995 (1.2 16v), that is seriously good value.
Maybe good value but would you seriously (and honestly) want to own a Dacia? I've been looking at various < £6k luxo-barges as a winter car/motorway cruiser, but actually this might be the better choice. As long as the seats are comfy, it's reasonably economic, the windows wind down and the heater works, I don't need anything else.
In fact, a couple of ironic racing stripes and an after market radio/cd player and it's all set to go.
NCAP test for old model, which didn't fair too badly. Says the next test is due 28th November 2012.
http://www.euroncap.com/tests/dacia_sandero_2008/3...
http://www.euroncap.com/tests/dacia_sandero_2008/3...
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