Dacia: an anomaly
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ExPat2B said:
The Dacia Logan is very good value.
If you compare the Logan Estate at 9500 total price on finance http://offers.dacia.co.uk/cars/loganmcv or 8500 bought outright, that same money buys you a 80 or 90 thousand mile Volvo V70 about 10 years old. I can see why people pick the Dacia.
I really liked the Logan MCV as the previous model. Anyone driving regularly in France would notice the Autoroutes were full of these very useful big buggersIf you compare the Logan Estate at 9500 total price on finance http://offers.dacia.co.uk/cars/loganmcv or 8500 bought outright, that same money buys you a 80 or 90 thousand mile Volvo V70 about 10 years old. I can see why people pick the Dacia.
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Tannedbaldhead said:
Wills2 said:
A mid sized 4 x 4 for 15k (the Lauréate model) seems great value, what needs explaining?
Great value if you are walking into a showroom with £15k in your back pocket to buy a new car outright.Any other procurement option and the Duster suddenly becomes expensive. They are also relatively expensive second-hand.
Wills2 said:
Tannedbaldhead said:
Wills2 said:
A mid sized 4 x 4 for 15k (the Lauréate model) seems great value, what needs explaining?
Great value if you are walking into a showroom with £15k in your back pocket to buy a new car outright.Any other procurement option and the Duster suddenly becomes expensive. They are also relatively expensive second-hand.
Three years down the line I punt it for between £7k-£8k clear the £4k outstanding balance of my loan and have £3k-£4k as a deposit on my next car. I bought cars like this for years.
If I kept it 5 years and saved the £4k I was was paying back the 1st 4 years assuming the 50k 5 year old Duster was still worth £5k-£6k another £15k loan and I'm in a 25k car.
This was how it was done in the old days prior to leasing. I starting off at 17 paying up a banger worth £500 (an old maroon, brush painted Talbot Avenger) and was a running nearly new Mazda RX7 Turbo then VW Corrado by the time I hit my late 20s. Then the company cars came and I frittered away all that equity on general stuff. (Furnishing a house, wedding, holidays, motorbikes, expensive mountain bikes etc.
Cheers Wills. Your post made me think there.
ExPat2B said:
The Dacia Logan is very good value.
If you compare the Logan Estate at 9500 total price on finance http://offers.dacia.co.uk/cars/loganmcv or 8500 bought outright, that same money buys you a 80 or 90 thousand mile Volvo V70 about 10 years old. I can see why people pick the Dacia.
We had a Logan MPV bus thing when our V60 went in for service (not in the UK) and it was bloody awful. Each to their own etc etc but it was shockingly bad. They are cheap, however, so I can see the appeal.If you compare the Logan Estate at 9500 total price on finance http://offers.dacia.co.uk/cars/loganmcv or 8500 bought outright, that same money buys you a 80 or 90 thousand mile Volvo V70 about 10 years old. I can see why people pick the Dacia.
Wills2 said:
And if you have no money and get a Tesco loan for the full 15k over 4 years it'll still only cost 16k inc the interest.
Makes good sense imo for £80 a week.If I ran my P38 RR on petrol or diesel I`d spend that every week & thats before something breaks or falls off!!
Edited by Jim AK on Saturday 17th February 20:53
. No plans to change it any time soon. crofty1984 said:
Earthdweller said:
They are rather popular with people that want an all round car to do a job and will probably keep them longer than 24 or 36 months
That's why my brother bought his. He's perfectly happy with it. I imagine he'll keep it until it's uneconomical to repair.My girlfriend loves hers. It does everything she wants, it can off road, take dogs, kids and shopping. It's been absolutely faultless in the 30k miles she's had it too. I can't see her selling it for a very long time tbh.
It's a classless car too, they're everywhere, like Mx5s.
My parents have a Logan and while I think it's horrid (5 gears, cheap internals, uncomfortable seats that I felt I was going to slide off with any amount of exuberant cornering) my parents think it's fabulous. It has a little bit of go thanks to the 1.2 turbo but isn't really that fast overall. You can see where multiple corners have been cut compared to 'better' cars but considering it was about £12k with sat-nav, rear reversing camera, electric windows, air-con and cruise control they love it.
So I know its not cool, but I have a Logan MCV.
I do about 20,000 miles a year and at that milage and PCP /lease was out of the question. Its economical at around 60mpg at motorway speed, has cruise control and the kids can make a mess in the back and I dont really care.
After 5 years I'll have done around 100k miles and the car cost £9500 new. If the car is worthless at the end of it, so be it. I dread to think what that milage would do to the value of something more German, certainly more than I paid.
I do about 20,000 miles a year and at that milage and PCP /lease was out of the question. Its economical at around 60mpg at motorway speed, has cruise control and the kids can make a mess in the back and I dont really care.
After 5 years I'll have done around 100k miles and the car cost £9500 new. If the car is worthless at the end of it, so be it. I dread to think what that milage would do to the value of something more German, certainly more than I paid.
At its price point (v. Low mileage £7k Laureate), the Duster had *far* more boot space than anything with with a comparable footprint and running costs that we looked at.
It does this by eating into the rear seat footwell space, which is a no-no for virtually all other SUVs which prioritise passenger comfort over lugging capability - with the outcome that their boots were too small for our 2-child paraphernalia requirements.
However, a 3yr old and newborn don't require much rear legroom - so for us it was the perfect choice...
It would not surprise me if this USP was a big selling point for a lot of buyers who need lugging capacity and have less need for rear legroom in small/medium footprint relatively-economic SUV format...
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It also seems to me like a modern incarnation of the original Range Rover concept, a sort of wipe clean/rinse-out utility vehicle for daily duties - but being cheap there's almost a "disposable vehicle" mindset to it; dings and car park scratches don't bother you unduly, making it a perfect workhorse/family vehicle...
It does this by eating into the rear seat footwell space, which is a no-no for virtually all other SUVs which prioritise passenger comfort over lugging capability - with the outcome that their boots were too small for our 2-child paraphernalia requirements.
However, a 3yr old and newborn don't require much rear legroom - so for us it was the perfect choice...
It would not surprise me if this USP was a big selling point for a lot of buyers who need lugging capacity and have less need for rear legroom in small/medium footprint relatively-economic SUV format...
--- Edited to add ---
It also seems to me like a modern incarnation of the original Range Rover concept, a sort of wipe clean/rinse-out utility vehicle for daily duties - but being cheap there's almost a "disposable vehicle" mindset to it; dings and car park scratches don't bother you unduly, making it a perfect workhorse/family vehicle...
Edited by Dominic TVRetto on Saturday 17th February 23:14
We have two Dacias: a Logan MCV Laureate diesel, and a Sandero 1.2 Ambience. The latter is just sold. The appeal is/was 55 mpg on the Logan and zero VED, plus aircon/cruise and Nav unit. 50 MPG (and zero VED) on the Sandero.
The Sandero was bought as a city commuter, at which it is excellent, but not at all exciting to drive. When I put it up for sale the phone rang off the hook for a week. The Logan MCV is a keeper, does the lot: tip runs, Brussels and back three times a year, accepts dogs, children and airport runs.
The Duster seems to hit the market spot it was aimed at: small 4x4 for unmade roads. Pricing for the up-spec models puts them in competition with the new Skoda SUVs though. We have a lot of Dusters around here in the sticks. Not so many Golf Rs.
A new Sandero Ambience TCe90 is still £7200 or £99 a month on a PCP. Cheap for an amiable commuter. There's a large market segment who'd rather have a cheap new car, than a used one at the same price.
The Sandero was bought as a city commuter, at which it is excellent, but not at all exciting to drive. When I put it up for sale the phone rang off the hook for a week. The Logan MCV is a keeper, does the lot: tip runs, Brussels and back three times a year, accepts dogs, children and airport runs.
The Duster seems to hit the market spot it was aimed at: small 4x4 for unmade roads. Pricing for the up-spec models puts them in competition with the new Skoda SUVs though. We have a lot of Dusters around here in the sticks. Not so many Golf Rs.
A new Sandero Ambience TCe90 is still £7200 or £99 a month on a PCP. Cheap for an amiable commuter. There's a large market segment who'd rather have a cheap new car, than a used one at the same price.
Edited by Slushbox on Sunday 18th February 07:40
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