Dacia Jogger

[Silvanus]

007Seats said:

Silvanus said:

I'm a big fan of Dacia, but fear with the price and spec hikes, and the anti cool following they have, they are moving in the position where Skoda once were. When Dacia inevitably becomes a product of their own success, who us going to sweep in and take the bottom of the market? Any current overseas brands, or maybe a defunct brand waiting to be resurrected, or just the Chinese.

Exactly this, but I hope Dacia sticks to its ethos a while longer. I imagine Renault thought it had a potential replacement lined-up with its Lada brand… but doubt there’ll be much support for Russian products in Europe now.

I thought the same regarding Lada, especially as Dacia and Lada have been paired up, don't think it will work now though. Shame though as a basic next gen Duster based Niva could have been very interesting

[anonymous-user]

Silvanus said:

I'm a big fan of Dacia, but fear with the price and spec hikes, and the anti cool following they have, they are moving in the position where Skoda once were. When Dacia inevitably becomes a product of their own success, who us going to sweep in and take the bottom of the market? Any current overseas brands, or maybe a defunct brand waiting to be resurrected, or just the Chinese.

This, the earlier cars were cheap as they were essentially using 15 year old Renault floor pans and running gear. The latest Sandero, Stepway and Jogger are all using the lastest Clio V5 floorpan, engines and gearboxes. Because of this prices have obviously had to increase, but they are still undercutting the equivalent Clio by £4K+

I purchased a stepway essential in white and for £12,995 (at the time) no other new car even comes close. It would appear however that I am in the minority and most people go for the higher spec versions making them even more expensive.

It is clear that Dacia is going the way of Skoda, the cars are going to essentially be Renaults with cheaper interiors, slightly less tech and a couple of thousand pounds less.

As time goes on they are going to be less and less of a bargain and more and more mainstream. This will mean they will lose their core customers who want a cheap brand new car and are not bothered about having lots of toys. The average Dacia buyer is coming from a ten plus year old+ car and probably buying new for the first time over their usual second hand car choice. The average buyer is certainly not test driving loads of new cars and picking the Dacia over any other brands on anything other than price.

[HTP99]

007Seats said:

This is interesting - brand new Dacias in stock in the UK, including some models in high demand.

https://www.dacia.co.uk/new-stock.html?page=2&...

None of those exist, one of them is showing as ours, we haven't got it.

It is frustrating as we have brought Dacia up on this before, the system isn't live and is only updated every couple of weeks so is only as good as the exact moment that the info is collated, any stock cars are selling instantly, it is a pointless exercise.

[malaccamax]

Here's an excellent PH question (not) for owners. Does the Jogger have the option of adaptive cruise? Octavia lease running out, new one crazy expensive, and that's the thing I'd miss most! (other than the space, which Jogger could provide)

[HTP99]

malaccamax said:

Here's an excellent PH question (not) for owners. Does the Jogger have the option of adaptive cruise? Octavia lease running out, new one crazy expensive, and that's the thing I'd miss most! (other than the space, which Jogger could provide)

Nope.

[The Rotrex Kid]

malaccamax said:

Here's an excellent PH question (not) for owners. Does the Jogger have the option of adaptive cruise? Octavia lease running out, new one crazy expensive, and that's the thing I'd miss most! (other than the space, which Jogger could provide)

No, no adaptive cruise on any Dacia

[malaccamax]

The Rotrex Kid said:

malaccamax said:

Here's an excellent PH question (not) for owners. Does the Jogger have the option of adaptive cruise? Octavia lease running out, new one crazy expensive, and that's the thing I'd miss most! (other than the space, which Jogger could provide)

No, no adaptive cruise on any Dacia

Boo. Oh well. Corolla Touring it is then

[vexed]

Is the 1l engine in these a tried and tested unit? Would be good to know the engine and gearbox are solid with proven reliability. I still have a slight outdated suspicion of hardworking small forced induction engines.
It performed perfectly well on a b-road and motorway test drive.

[Silvanus]

malaccamax said:

The Rotrex Kid said:

malaccamax said:

Here's an excellent PH question (not) for owners. Does the Jogger have the option of adaptive cruise? Octavia lease running out, new one crazy expensive, and that's the thing I'd miss most! (other than the space, which Jogger could provide)

No, no adaptive cruise on any Dacia

Boo. Oh well. Corolla Touring it is then

shame you can't do without, boot is vast in the Dacia with the back seats out

[ChocolateFrog]

The Rotrex Kid said:

malaccamax said:

Here's an excellent PH question (not) for owners. Does the Jogger have the option of adaptive cruise? Octavia lease running out, new one crazy expensive, and that's the thing I'd miss most! (other than the space, which Jogger could provide)

No, no adaptive cruise on any Dacia

And if you regularly switch between cars, one with adaptive cruise and one without you have to remember not to rear end the rapidly approaching car in front.

[SteBrown91]

malaccamax said:

Boo. Oh well. Corolla Touring it is then

One thing to watch is the boot is not a patch on an octavia's, especially if you get the 2.0.

The 1.8 boot is not bad but due to the extra size of the 2.0 theres no space in the front for the 12v battery so this is relocated to the boot, so the floor is quite a bit higher and impacts the size.

[loskie]

Surely if a driver is SO RELIANT on adaptive cruise one must have to question their competency to drive. I have cruise control on my Q5 (no idea if adaptive or not) . It's extremely rare that I use it.

[A500leroy]

By the time everything has to be hybrid as a minimum if not full EV then the days of a bargin cheap new car are long over anyway.
Expect to see the chinese over here with Evs that roughly cost what A Fiesta costs now will be the cheapest price imo.

[Silvanus]

A500leroy said:

By the time everything has to be hybrid as a minimum if not full EV then the days of a bargin cheap new car are long over anyway.
Expect to see the chinese over here with Evs that roughly cost what A Fiesta costs now will be the cheapest price imo.

Dacia sell a full EV city car in Europe cheaper than a new Ford Fiesta, shame they decided they weren't going to engineer if for right hand drive although the replacement will probably be sold here. Electric cars are only expensive because of the pointless unnecessary crap they insist on fitting them with

[Pistom]

loskie said:

Surely if a driver is SO RELIANT on adaptive cruise one must have to question their competency to drive. I have cruise control on my Q5 (no idea if adaptive or not) . It's extremely rare that I use it.

That's just the view of someone who doesn't use cruise. The view is quite understandable but just because someone values a feature doesn't mean they need it to drive. I love ACC but have 2 other cars that haven't got it and it's not an issue.

[Unwize]

vexed said:

Is the 1l engine in these a tried and tested unit? Would be good to know the engine and gearbox are solid with proven reliability. I still have a slight outdated suspicion of hardworking small forced induction engines.
It performed perfectly well on a b-road and motorway test drive.

Since you can extend the warranty to 6 yrs/60K for £400 or 6yrs/100K for £650 is that an issue?

Seems very cheap to me.

[vexed]

Didn't know that. Usually hate upselling but that seems like a no brainer.

[Back2theFuji]

Silvanus said:

I'm a big fan of Dacia, but fear with the price and spec hikes, and the anti cool following they have, they are moving in the position where Skoda once were. When Dacia inevitably becomes a product of their own success, who us going to sweep in and take the bottom of the market? Any current overseas brands, or maybe a defunct brand waiting to be resurrected, or just the Chinese.

That'll be MG innit...

[Silvanus]

Back2theFuji said:

Silvanus said:

I'm a big fan of Dacia, but fear with the price and spec hikes, and the anti cool following they have, they are moving in the position where Skoda once were. When Dacia inevitably becomes a product of their own success, who us going to sweep in and take the bottom of the market? Any current overseas brands, or maybe a defunct brand waiting to be resurrected, or just the Chinese.

That'll be MG innit...

not so sure considering there best selling offerings are far more expensive than what Dacia sells. They appear to be chasing the bottom end of the EV market with an electric estate and a couple of electric and hybrid SUVs.

[blueST]

I hope they can remain the budget choice, but it may be that it’s becoming impossible to operate profitably at Dacia’s current place in the UK/EU market. The suggested model of using engines that are a generation or so older may cause problems meeting emissions regs, and using older platforms with less tech has already exposed them to some criticism of their safety ratings. Just leaving out soft touch plastic from the interior probably doesn’t save much.