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Joey Deacon said:
I think it is rebranding on all Dacia cars, how very annoying as my car was apparently built this week. Much prefer the new logo, looks much more modern,
Only I could buy a car a week before the rebranding was announced.
They won’t be building any of the rebranded cars until the end of the year for deliveries probably early next year.Only I could buy a car a week before the rebranding was announced.
croyde said:
I called it.
Essential is back!
Bet it ain't as cheap as my one was though.
Liking that grey, and the logo, and the TFT dash but hang on!
I must not get suckered into all that crap again, I gave that all up hence why I bought my basic NATO white model with steel wheels.
No, this is clearly the next step in Renault doing a Skoda and increasing the prices so they are a couple of thousand less than the equivalent Renault. Obviously the Sandero, Stepway and Jogger were a massive increase in quality due to being based on the latest Clio platform, but I think a lot of people still have the same prejudices as they did with Skoda in the early days.Essential is back!
Bet it ain't as cheap as my one was though.
Liking that grey, and the logo, and the TFT dash but hang on!
I must not get suckered into all that crap again, I gave that all up hence why I bought my basic NATO white model with steel wheels.
This is clearly Renault accelerating the move from Dacia being seen as a budget, no image brand to being a mainstream car.
Joey Deacon said:
croyde said:
I called it.
Essential is back!
Bet it ain't as cheap as my one was though.
Liking that grey, and the logo, and the TFT dash but hang on!
I must not get suckered into all that crap again, I gave that all up hence why I bought my basic NATO white model with steel wheels.
No, this is clearly the next step in Renault doing a Skoda and increasing the prices so they are a couple of thousand less than the equivalent Renault. Obviously the Sandero, Stepway and Jogger were a massive increase in quality due to being based on the latest Clio platform, but I think a lot of people still have the same prejudices as they did with Skoda in the early days.Essential is back!
Bet it ain't as cheap as my one was though.
Liking that grey, and the logo, and the TFT dash but hang on!
I must not get suckered into all that crap again, I gave that all up hence why I bought my basic NATO white model with steel wheels.
This is clearly Renault accelerating the move from Dacia being seen as a budget, no image brand to being a mainstream car.
I wonder who will come along to fill the gap if Dacia do move up too much. MG have taken a different path and I'm not so sure there's an appetite for LADA with everything going on. Shame Peugeot got bought, they could have brought Talbot back (new Rancher anyone?) I'm surprised Stelantis hasn't gone after Dacia with one of there brands or sub brands considering how well Dacia cars are selling.
Silvanus said:
I wonder who will come along to fill the gap if Dacia do move up too much. MG have taken a different path and I'm not so sure there's an appetite for LADA with everything going on. Shame Peugeot got bought, they could have brought Talbot back (new Rancher anyone?) I'm surprised Stelantis hasn't gone after Dacia with one of there brands or sub brands considering how well Dacia cars are selling.
I don't think there will be anyone along to replace them, there is clearly so little money in producing cheap cars that nobody else will want to enter that market. Citroen produce a cheap version of the C3 named the You which is £12,995 and available to order via their website only. Other than Dacia (who have steadily increased prices over the last 18 months) this is the only other budget car I can think of.Every other brand is moving towards full EVs, so they are not going to want to create ICE cars for a market where there is little profit and will vanish in 7 years time anyway.
I think the whole budget market is going to evaporate over the next few years as Dacia go more mainstream and increase prices to match.
The only "cheap" cars I can see on the horizon is if a Chinese company start selling their EVs in the UK. The first company to sell a decent EV at a decent price will clean up.
Joey Deacon said:
Silvanus said:
I wonder who will come along to fill the gap if Dacia do move up too much. MG have taken a different path and I'm not so sure there's an appetite for LADA with everything going on. Shame Peugeot got bought, they could have brought Talbot back (new Rancher anyone?) I'm surprised Stelantis hasn't gone after Dacia with one of there brands or sub brands considering how well Dacia cars are selling.
I don't think there will be anyone along to replace them, there is clearly so little money in producing cheap cars that nobody else will want to enter that market. Citroen produce a cheap version of the C3 named the You which is £12,995 and available to order via their website only. Other than Dacia (who have steadily increased prices over the last 18 months) this is the only other budget car I can think of.Every other brand is moving towards full EVs, so they are not going to want to create ICE cars for a market where there is little profit and will vanish in 7 years time anyway.
I think the whole budget market is going to evaporate over the next few years as Dacia go more mainstream and increase prices to match.
The only "cheap" cars I can see on the horizon is if a Chinese company start selling their EVs in the UK. The first company to sell a decent EV at a decent price will clean up.
There will always be a place for a budget brand, always has, always will as some people prefer new to used. Its why Dacia are clearing up and can't build cars fast enough.
Sonosp said:
New branding for the dusters.
Really like the new logo on it.
https://www.dacia.co.uk/new-identity.html
Yes I prefer the new logo, does look more modern and less Rover. Really like the new logo on it.
https://www.dacia.co.uk/new-identity.html
Think I'll enquire about how much the new front grille costs.
Not a huge fan of the new colour but does look better than primer grey that everyone seems to swoon over.
croyde said:
I called it.
Essential is back!
Bet it ain't as cheap as my one was though.
Liking that grey, and the logo, and the TFT dash but hang on!
I must not get suckered into all that crap again, I gave that all up hence why I bought my basic NATO white model with steel wheels.
I doubt old and new Essential are the same spec, especially in this country. I'd imagine the new Essential will be much better equipped. Essential is back!
Bet it ain't as cheap as my one was though.
Liking that grey, and the logo, and the TFT dash but hang on!
I must not get suckered into all that crap again, I gave that all up hence why I bought my basic NATO white model with steel wheels.
The other trim names seem a bit pretentious though. I suppose Prestige was already a bit fancy for Dacia.
Essential
Expression
Journey
Extreme
With journey being the highest spec and extreme ideal for getaways, whatever that means.
Edited by ChocolateFrog on Wednesday 15th June 12:21
ChocolateFrog said:
Yes I prefer the new logo, does look more modern and less Rover.
The new logo on the front reminds me of the DMC Delorian one minus the 'M' and the steering wheel looks very 'empty'. The shield badge filled it much better.
I imagine the dealers will be delighted at the costs to update everything in the showroom...
Edited by KTF on Wednesday 15th June 12:31
Edited by KTF on Wednesday 15th June 12:32
I see the base Jogger is now £16,645 vs the original £14,999 - not sure how the spec has changed but that's quite a jump in a few months.
If she didn't need an auto I would have ordered a Jogger for Mrs Emeye.
My son's girlfriend has just had a Sandero delivered and I'm very impressed for the money - she ordered it much earlier this year.
If she didn't need an auto I would have ordered a Jogger for Mrs Emeye.
My son's girlfriend has just had a Sandero delivered and I'm very impressed for the money - she ordered it much earlier this year.
PositronicRay said:
They'll be another brand at some point to fill the void, timing is key.
I managed to buy a Hyundai at the point when they became ok but before getting too posh. Same with the Dacia.
Who's next?
There isn't any others. I managed to buy a Hyundai at the point when they became ok but before getting too posh. Same with the Dacia.
Who's next?
Maybe we'll see someone like TATA coming in at the bottom, designed and built in India.
I bet the lone importer of Lada is having a pretty hard time at the moment.
KTF said:
ChocolateFrog said:
Yes I prefer the new logo, does look more modern and less Rover.
The new logo on the front reminds me of the DMC Delorian one minus the 'M' and the steering wheel looks very 'empty'. The shield badge filled it much better.I imagine the dealers will be delighted at the costs to update everything in the showroom...
Edited by KTF on Wednesday 15th June 12:31
Edited by KTF on Wednesday 15th June 12:32
ChocolateFrog said:
PositronicRay said:
They'll be another brand at some point to fill the void, timing is key.
I managed to buy a Hyundai at the point when they became ok but before getting too posh. Same with the Dacia.
Who's next?
There isn't any others. I managed to buy a Hyundai at the point when they became ok but before getting too posh. Same with the Dacia.
Who's next?
Maybe we'll see someone like TATA coming in at the bottom, designed and built in India.
I bet the lone importer of Lada is having a pretty hard time at the moment.
Silvanus said:
There are plenty of opportunities for companies to bring back old brands or create sub brands. Its been very successful for some.
But if there is no money in it due to the shortage of components and the price of raw materials why would they bother? The Dacia Sandero Stepway Essential was £10,995 when it was first announced 18 months ago, today that car costs £13,795.Budget brands are no longer budget brands if they need to increase the price by 25% in 18 months.
Plus, when there is a shortage of components they would be better off using these to build more expensive cars which generate more profits. And as I said, ICE is banned in 7 years so that would be a waste of time when your business has such a short switch off point.
No profit, no point.
Joey Deacon said:
Silvanus said:
There are plenty of opportunities for companies to bring back old brands or create sub brands. Its been very successful for some.
But if there is no money in it due to the shortage of components and the price of raw materials why would they bother? The Dacia Sandero Stepway Essential was £10,995 when it was first announced 18 months ago, today that car costs £13,795.Budget brands are no longer budget brands if they need to increase the price by 25% in 18 months.
Plus, when there is a shortage of components they would be better off using these to build more expensive cars which generate more profits. And as I said, ICE is banned in 7 years so that would be a waste of time when your business has such a short switch off point.
No profit, no point.
ChocolateFrog said:
Has anyone got any recommendations for aftermarket steel wheels?
I like these from 4x4 tyres but despite popping up when you google Dacia Duster steel wheels they're the wrong fitment and the ones they do for the Duster don't really float my boat.
I found some Renault steelies that fit, from a Talisman. I like these from 4x4 tyres but despite popping up when you google Dacia Duster steel wheels they're the wrong fitment and the ones they do for the Duster don't really float my boat.
This website has all the stuff that'll fit.
https://www.wheelfitment.eu/car/Dacia/Duster%20(20...
..and a gratuitous pic. I'm still waiting on the tyres to arrive..... (BFGoodrich Ko2 with white lettering!)
These one aren't standard though, I had them banded 1 1/2" and then powder coated.
Schmeeky said:
I found some Renault steelies that fit, from a Talisman.
This website has all the stuff that'll fit.
https://www.wheelfitment.eu/car/Dacia/Duster%20(20...
..and a gratuitous pic. I'm still waiting on the tyres to arrive..... (BFGoodrich Ko2 with white lettering!)
These one aren't standard though, I had them banded 1 1/2" and then powder coated.
I want to see this finished please!This website has all the stuff that'll fit.
https://www.wheelfitment.eu/car/Dacia/Duster%20(20...
..and a gratuitous pic. I'm still waiting on the tyres to arrive..... (BFGoodrich Ko2 with white lettering!)
These one aren't standard though, I had them banded 1 1/2" and then powder coated.
Silvanus said:
Joey Deacon said:
Silvanus said:
There are plenty of opportunities for companies to bring back old brands or create sub brands. Its been very successful for some.
But if there is no money in it due to the shortage of components and the price of raw materials why would they bother? The Dacia Sandero Stepway Essential was £10,995 when it was first announced 18 months ago, today that car costs £13,795.Budget brands are no longer budget brands if they need to increase the price by 25% in 18 months.
Plus, when there is a shortage of components they would be better off using these to build more expensive cars which generate more profits. And as I said, ICE is banned in 7 years so that would be a waste of time when your business has such a short switch off point.
No profit, no point.
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