RE: INEOS Grenadier officially unveiled

[Leithen]

Large French military order perhaps? What do they use at the moment?

[DonkeyApple]

Leithen said:

Are there going to be 3 volumes of argument about how to pronounce the name Grenadier now? Grenadeer or Grenadiay?

Probably easier to just rename it the Facsimile?

[l354uge]

Leithen said:

Large French military order perhaps? What do they use at the moment?

You won't see that bmw engine and zf box combo anywhere near a warzone. No bmw engine will run on the terrible fuel you'll get In developing country without some serious modifications.

[silentbrown]

DonkeyApple said:

Seems an odd move but it already has a French name.

Napoleon loved using Grenadiers while Wellington preferred the use of Forlorn Hopes.

But of all the world's brave heroes, there's none that can compare.
With a tow, row, row, row, row, row, to the British French Grenadiers.

[Dusty964]

300bhp/ton said:

Surely it's relevant if you are saying you would buy if it was built in Britain, but absolutely wouldn't if built elsewhere.

And while it may owe much to the Defender. Let's not forget it isn't actually one. And has none of the actual heritage. So I'm curious, if you do own or buy vehicles not made in Britain. Are you maybe being a little reactionary by declaring you wouldn't buy a Grenadier on the sole basis it isn't built in Britain?

Maybe he's just a consumer, deciding where and how to spend his own money, based on his own preferences? Maybe, heritage doesn't come into it?

[Leithen]

l354uge said:

Leithen said:

Large French military order perhaps? What do they use at the moment?

You won't see that bmw engine and zf box combo anywhere near a warzone. No bmw engine will run on the terrible fuel you'll get In developing country without some serious modifications.

Sounds perfect for the French Army.

[SuperPav]

l354uge said:

Leithen said:

Large French military order perhaps? What do they use at the moment?

You won't see that bmw engine and zf box combo anywhere near a warzone. No bmw engine will run on the terrible fuel you'll get In developing country without some serious modifications.

BMW must ship diesel cars to RoW markets though (e.g. Cambodia) - they will have Eu5 (or even earlier) level fuel and emissions systems which will accommodate questionable fuel. It's a consideration and challenge, but not insurmountable.

[300bhp/ton]

Dusty964 said:

Maybe he's just a consumer, deciding where and how to spend his own money, based on his own preferences? Maybe, heritage doesn't come into it?

Clearly you didn't read their post, they said it matter

[l354uge]

SuperPav said:

l354uge said:

Leithen said:

Large French military order perhaps? What do they use at the moment?

You won't see that bmw engine and zf box combo anywhere near a warzone. No bmw engine will run on the terrible fuel you'll get In developing country without some serious modifications.

BMW must ship diesel cars to RoW markets though (e.g. Cambodia) - they will have Eu5 (or even earlier) level fuel and emissions systems which will accommodate questionable fuel. It's a consideration and challenge, but not insurmountable.

They only sell petrol cars there, not enough money in still making EU4/5 diesels that can cope. The petrol cars seem to be the smaller engines too, that ship without GPFs etc. You want a simple, big capacity engine for military use

[jagfan2]

SuperPav said:

l354uge said:

Leithen said:

Large French military order perhaps? What do they use at the moment?

You won't see that bmw engine and zf box combo anywhere near a warzone. No bmw engine will run on the terrible fuel you'll get In developing country without some serious modifications.

BMW must ship diesel cars to RoW markets though (e.g. Cambodia) - they will have Eu5 (or even earlier) level fuel and emissions systems which will accommodate questionable fuel. It's a consideration and challenge, but not insurmountable.

It being a European car on sale in 2021 will have to be mainly Eu6d , depends how many markets they want to cover and if they are going to offer a petrol variant. For RoW you have to do a lot of soul searching if the markets are worth the cost of tooling and certifying for them.

BMW generally only sell Eu5 petrols to RoW now, as Eu6+ diesels are very sensitive to crap fuel

[AnotherClarkey]

I wonder what name the risible Roverp6b will come up with for it now?

[MC Bodge]

AnotherClarkey said:

I wonder what name the risible Roverp6b will come up with for it now?

He's probably too busy planning to storm the Normandy beaches.

[camel_landy]

l354uge said:

Leithen said:

Large French military order perhaps? What do they use at the moment?

You won't see that bmw engine and zf box combo anywhere near a warzone. No bmw engine will run on the terrible fuel you'll get In developing country without some serious modifications.

Fuel isn't necessarily sourced locally...

M

[soxboy]

AnotherClarkey said:

I wonder what name the risible Roverp6b will come up with for it now?

Can't be any more cringeworthy than his constantly repeated Nude Offender one.

[growlerowl]

300bhp/ton said:

Clearly you didn't read their post, they said it matter

It wouldn't matter as much if they hadn't deliberately sought to play on LR heritage and to an extent Britishness - I mean it's even named after the British Grenadiers (via the pub) fgs. As things stand it feels like a bait and switch.

[RacerMike]

jagfan2 said:

It being a European car on sale in 2021 will have to be mainly Eu6d , depends how many markets they want to cover and if they are going to offer a petrol variant. For RoW you have to do a lot of soul searching if the markets are worth the cost of tooling and certifying for them.

BMW generally only sell Eu5 petrols to RoW now, as Eu6+ diesels are very sensitive to crap fuel

You can't say stuff like that. It undermines the statement from Ineos that you can fix it at the side of the road with a hammer and drive it anywhere

[Jimmy Recard]

I don't buy cars based on their location of build, I buy them based on whether I like them and how suitable they are for what I want them to do. So if it's any good, this wouldn't put me off

[MC Bodge]

growlerowl said:

It wouldn't matter as much if they hadn't deliberately sought to play on LR heritage and to an extent Britishness - I mean it's even named after the British Grenadiers (via the pub) fgs. As things stand it feels like a bait and switch.

Will Brexitty old men be shaking their fists in disappointment at their Monaco resident business cheerleader (second only to Tim Martin?) and not be buying it, having previously had other reasons for not buying it?

[growlerowl]

MC Bodge said:

Will Brexitty old men be shaking their fists in disappointment at their Monaco resident business cheerleader (second only to Tim Martin?) and not be buying it, having previously had other reasons for not buying it?

?

Weird ideas you have. Maybe try getting over the fact Brexit is happening. Guessing you're not departing for a new life on the continent any time soon?

[growlerowl]

Jimmy Recard said:

I don't buy cars based on their location of build, I buy them based on whether I like them and how suitable they are for what I want them to do. So if it's any good, this wouldn't put me off

Aren't you proud of being British? What do you think will happen to the economy and workers if we let everything be made elsewhere? I just cannot fathom living with this kind of unpatriotic rootlessness, though obviously I realise it's pushed hard by the media and is a fashionable pose for those that want to present themselves as modern, enlightened and other globalist carp