RE: INEOS Grenadier officially unveiled
Discussion
RoverP6B said:
old car was frequently used, adapted or converted, as an RRV, shunter, railbus, 6x6, fire engine, telehandler, half-track, off-road hauler of heavy (i.e. north of 3500kg!) goods or machinery... and I can't wait to see how that monocoque stands up to being air-dropped.
That was the case decades ago, but these days there are a multitude of specialist options available. And easy credit to buy them.smifffymoto said:
I would think that Brexit supporting billionaire Sir Jim makes his decision solely on the numbers and how they increase in his Swiss bank account rather than how well to best serve Britain.
Probably. It must be a bit of a blow to some people that whether or not a British billionaire supported the UK leaving the EU, they will still build their products in the EU.
Even if they might pretend that an Indian owned company doing it is different/worse.
Maybe a good thing !!
It can now be judged solely on its merits and value for money as just another foreign vehicle!! , the army and the public sector might find a South African built double cab at £20 k or a Japanese land cruiser at £30k is better and cheaper and not have to worry about being seen to support british business ???
It can now be judged solely on its merits and value for money as just another foreign vehicle!! , the army and the public sector might find a South African built double cab at £20 k or a Japanese land cruiser at £30k is better and cheaper and not have to worry about being seen to support british business ???
MC Bodge said:
Even if they might pretend that an Indian owned company doing it is different/worse.
However, the main difference with said "Indian owned company" is that they are not only providing many jobs in the UK (directly and indirectly) but those jobs also provide much needed income for GOV.UK through taxation, etc...Whilst I might knock LR for their decision to build a plant in Slovakia, TATA have done a fantastic job of showing they're in this for the long haul with their investment in the Port Talbot Steel Works and general investment into JLR.
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MC Bodge said:
Probably.
It must be a bit of a blow to some people that whether or not a British billionaire supported the UK leaving the EU, they will still build their products in the EU.
Even if they might pretend that an Indian owned company doing it is different/worse.
There is probably some form a sliding scale for dislike of foreigners. I’ll wager a penny that it is also colour coded. It must be a bit of a blow to some people that whether or not a British billionaire supported the UK leaving the EU, they will still build their products in the EU.
Even if they might pretend that an Indian owned company doing it is different/worse.
595Heaven said:
Someone needs to check how their site looks on iPad. Not sure that was the headline they wanted...
While they are at it, they could update the FAQs
WHERE WILL THE VEHICLE BE BUILT?
The Grenadier will be built in the UK, at our new manufacturing facility in Bridgend, South Wales.
That's unfortunate! While they are at it, they could update the FAQs
WHERE WILL THE VEHICLE BE BUILT?
The Grenadier will be built in the UK, at our new manufacturing facility in Bridgend, South Wales.
soxboy said:
Article on Autocar website:
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/confir...
I can't see a way forward for Wales on this one.
Boo!https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/confir...
I can't see a way forward for Wales on this one.
But if a plant is available that is already suited for suv build then a business decision.
Unless the Welsh government coughs up free money/loans.
hyphen said:
Boo!
But if a plant is available that is already suited for suv build then a business decision.
Unless the Welsh government coughs up free money/loans.
I can't see that they could cough up enough to make building a new factory a better business decision then buying one ready to go.But if a plant is available that is already suited for suv build then a business decision.
Unless the Welsh government coughs up free money/loans.
I do find it hilarious given some of the comments in favor of Ineos and JR history with Brexit, that it will be built in France. If it is to be built at all, it will be through a shake & bake factory.
hyphen said:
Boo!
But if a plant is available that is already suited for suv build then a business decision.
Unless the Welsh government coughs up free money/loans.
Welsh Government were already paying to start the ground work on the green field site.But if a plant is available that is already suited for suv build then a business decision.
Unless the Welsh government coughs up free money/loans.
And they usually offer very favourable terms for supporting businesses in the area, so I doubt they could promise much more than they already have.
LimaDelta said:
If it was genuinely about ruggedness and utility then yes, you would.
But they don't look like a legacy Defender if you squint a bit.
And that's it in a nutshell.But they don't look like a legacy Defender if you squint a bit.
I'd love this to succeed. Interesting cars are always a good thing, and it does seem to address a lot of the old Defender's shortcomings.
But why would NGOs and utilities choose this over the known quantity of a Landcruiser or other pick up?
And why would people who want a lifestyle vehicle choose this over the GWagen or Defender? Or, in the US, a Wrangler.
It's a massive gamble for any buyer. And I can't see it succeeding unless they make it significantly cheaper than the competition.
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