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greenrat

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90 posts

69 months

Saturday 17th August 2013
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What collective wisdom does the forum have on SS? Anyone built either of their kits? What are they like to deal with? Any info, experience or opinion gratefully received.

Flatinfourth

591 posts

63 months

Tuesday 20th August 2013
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Have never built one of theirs, well regarded people though. I like the look of their self build C type. If you fancy something cooler than a cobra and more authentic than most then a C type takes some beating. PS dress code is Tiger Moth!!

greenrat

Original Poster:

90 posts

69 months

Tuesday 20th August 2013
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Yes, I hear good things too. I've been planning an XKSS replica build, but my wife has latched onto the SS100 as being a tad more roadable and thus likely to get used more. Trust a woman to get all practical, but it has got me thinking....and that never ends well.

Flatinfourth

591 posts

63 months

Wednesday 21st August 2013
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Indeed! you have on the one hand, the SS100, a very useable and utterly gorgeous sports car, and the D Type/XKSS, and from the point of view of someoune who has had the privilege of working on and driving both derivatives, a pure racer designed to do two and a half times the motorway speed limit! The XKSS is a little more forgiving to its passenger with the full width screen but it is still more fighter plane than pretty weekend tourer! For me the C type sits happily in the middle somewhere, as it is pure racer. but passes nicely as a sports car.

For me the whole concept of having a D type replica means having a monocoque body with tubular engine frame, not a body sitting on a space frame as so called replicas are. This makes the C type more affordable as you can have a nice space frame resonably close to the original, and the live axle on links too, just with a glass fibre body, which is just fine as it doesn't dent every time you flick up a pebble.

greenrat

Original Poster:

90 posts

69 months

Wednesday 21st August 2013
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Flatinfourth said:
...This makes the C type more affordable as you can have a nice space frame resonably close to the original, and the live axle on links too, just with a glass fibre body, which is just fine as it doesn't dent every time you flick up a pebble.
I know what you mean. I have looked at both the Realm and the Suffolk Jaguar C types. Both have space frames and the Suffolk beastie even retains the live axle, allegedly making it drive much like the original. But while both would be more cost effective than either of my original choices, the C just doesn't light my fire. It must be my aging eyesight or early onset senility....

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Flatinfourth

591 posts

63 months

Wednesday 21st August 2013
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I'd get someone to drift you round a nice circuit or do a road test in a nice one, might just change your mind! Fast car on skinny tyres is something younger drivers don't realise they are missing out on!

AstonZagato

7,308 posts

135 months

Sunday 15th September 2013
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Finding myself more and more interested on one of the SS100s. Anyone had a long term ownership experience?

nikman

873 posts

130 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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AstonZagato said:
Finding myself more and more interested on one of the SS100s. Anyone had a long term ownership experience?
IF you're referring to the Suffolk recreation, same here! I'd just broaden the question to long OR short term experience...

AstonZagato

7,308 posts

135 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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I had an email conversation with an owner over the last few days.

He was positive.

digger the goat

2,025 posts

70 months

Thursday 19th September 2013
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A very close friend of mine used to work for roger williams..
Great recreations on a superb platform. Buy a ready made one and make it your own !
He is now at A.S. Motorsport using a similar platform but for an Aston DBR1 + 2 recreation.

nikman

873 posts

130 months

Friday 20th September 2013
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AstonZagato said:
I had an email conversation with an owner over the last few days.

He was positive.
Unless the conversation was one where he was interested in selling and you were interested in buying, it seems that there is only positive feedback on Roger Williams and the cars he is producing.

Having seen and sat in one, the attention to detail and the craftsmanship seems to be there in spades. But is there anyone here with first hand experience of owning a Suffolk Jaguar SS 100?

StangGT

3,841 posts

194 months

Friday 20th September 2013
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At Goodwood this year I loved the racing e types... Is anyone doing a replica of these that doesn't cost a fortune?

In fact, are there any coupe bodied period replicas out there for sensible money?!?!

SS100

2 posts

51 months

Sunday 6th October 2013
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nikman said:
AstonZagato said:
I had an email conversation with an owner over the last few days.

He was positive.
Unless the conversation was one where he was interested in selling and you were interested in buying, it seems that there is only positive feedback on Roger Williams and the cars he is producing.

Having seen and sat in one, the attention to detail and the craftsmanship seems to be there in spades. But is there anyone here with first hand experience of owning a Suffolk Jaguar SS 100?
Short Answer: Yes I've had one for over 2 years. Happy to answer questions.

ClaphamGT3

6,373 posts

168 months

Sunday 6th October 2013
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I don't have one of their products (that sort of thing leaves me cold) but I've known Roger and his family for over 30 years. He's had an interesting career but is well respected in local and business circles and he is a truly passionate petrol-head

greenrat

Original Poster:

90 posts

69 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
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I went down to Suffolk last week and met Roger and his wee beasties. Exceedingly impressed! Roger was very pleasant; he gave myself, my wife and son a test drive and didn't scream even when I overshot a turn on the return leg. The car was sweet - a surprisingly good drive, taken straight from the XJ6 donor. It was cosy with two up but my 6'2", 17 stone frame fitted fine, although I found the pedals very tight in my inappropriate shoes. The quality of both steel and fibreglass components looks top notch. Most importantly, it seems to have got the thumbs up from she-who-holds-the-purse-strings. My son hasn't stopped grinning yet.

cardigankid

7,020 posts

137 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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SS100 said:
Short Answer: Yes I've had one for over 2 years. Happy to answer questions.
I was thinking of a Morgan and wondered if an SS100 is a viable alternative. most people seem to be pretty positive. I have actually driven one and it was great fun. I have two concerns, and any comments would be welcome.

1. What do they actually cost? New or second hand. The information is nowhere to be found.
2. Is it a problem getting them insured, MOT'd and generally 100% road legal? I read somewhere about certificates that had to be produced which were the purchasers responsibility, not that of SS.

jgmadkit

517 posts

174 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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I remember one of the kit car magazines ran a feature a couple of years ago which featured about 3 or 4 Suffolk SS100 owners. Each owner loved their car (naturally) and I recall the average build cost being in the £40k to £50K range. Not cheap to replicate every detail.

RochdaleGT

1,700 posts

148 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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i always wonder how suffolk is sorting the registration issues.....as the cars never seem to need passing the IVA test

rangerralph

1 posts

146 months

Wednesday 21st December 2016
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SS100 said:
Short Answer: Yes I've had one for over 2 years. Happy to answer questions.
hi SS 100,
i have friends who own Suffolk SS 100s and i am considering a purchase. most people i have spoken to have a good impression of
the williams and their cars. is there anything that i should be concerned about? are there any particular issues with these cars,
i.e. how waterproof are they on the motorway? are they Austin Healey Mk III water proof, only MGA water resistant, or 289 Cobra water harvesting?
the components of the car seem superb and a replica is only as good as the person who screws it together, but i'm aware that there is a jaguar under there, for better (mostly better) or worse.

i have owned an excellent Proteus C-Type for almost 5 years. my wife is a good sport and likes to drive the car, but she thinks it is time to get something sporting with a hood and heater. we drove an original SS 100 for 10 days on the targa floria tour in Sicily. it was fun, despite shedding its water every time we slowed to a crawl.

julian64

12,147 posts

179 months

Wednesday 21st December 2016
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greenrat said:
but my 6'2", 17 stone frame fitted fine,
Have you tried an XKSS. I will suggest you might struggle at that size.

I'm 6ft and a lot less than 17 stone and the XKSS fits like a fairly tight glove.

For instance any reversing or changing gear requires use of the horn to make room for my knees.

Let alone how you'd fit three people in. smile

I can tell you from having driven both that they are chalk and cheese in terms of driving. A sopwith pup and a submarine would be a closer comparison smile