Westfield SEiGHT

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Andy665

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2,197 posts

161 months

Tuesday 27th February
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Westfields are often seen (wrongly in my opinion) as a Caterham for those who cannot afford a Caterham but I like Westfields and this is my second, the first being 16 years ago and was a clamshell winged Lotus Twin Cam powered car that sadly had to be sold due to space restrictions.

Last year saw me being in the position where I could look at another - I decided at an early stage I did not want a "middle of the road" car - Zetecs, Redtops being ruled out as being just a little too sensible.

That really only left bike engine and V8's. Whilst I enjoy tinkering the regularity of maintenance seemingly required on bike engine cars left me a little cold so the search was on for a V8.

A wanted ad was placed on the Westfield Sports Car Club site and within an hour or so I had a response from someone with a V8 that whilst not for sale could be for sale if I was genuinely interested. Numerous emails were exchanged and a date arranged to go over to Leicestershire to have a look.

This was a car that was built with no expense spared to replace one that the builder wrote off on the autoroute in France. Built from virtually all new parts back in 2004 it had clearly cost a fortune (stack of invoices, with some missing subsequently showed a total of comfortably over £26k).

Now in the hands of the second owner we thrashed out a price, obviously above my budget but I knew this was quite a special car.

The following weekend saw me collect the car - a combination of an unfamiliar car, pouring rain and no sat nav signal made for a potentially miserable 100 mile journey home but nothing could be further from the truth.

Now had the car 12 months and put on 2,500 very enjoyable miles. Lots of money spent but mostly on upgrades, only things gone wrong have been a clutch slave cylinder fail and the Stack instrument pack requiring a service - things upgraded / replaced have been the original seats, changing from 5" to 7" headlights and aeroscreen and lots of time spent on cleaning and preventative maintenance.

Despite its 330bhp and 205 section tyres its a real pussycat, so much torque that it will amble along in 5th at idle but absolutely decimate most things on the road if the need arises.

This is definitely a keeper - have promised my 10 year old son it will be gifted to him on his 21st birthday.

Collection day


As it is now




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MikeGoodwin

1,254 posts

50 months

Tuesday 27th February
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This was someone's on here wasn't it? Lovely motor. I've had a hankering for one for years but decided on an m3 since I don't really have the space for one. Bet with that particular engine it's like a rocket.

jontysafe

1,955 posts

111 months

Tuesday 13th March
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Lovely car!
Please think about a roll cage though.

It’s very similar to what my cosworth powered one was like and the thought of a deer running in front of it and general, if you crash you’re not going to have much chance, made me fit one.

That and the engine upgrades!

Equus

4,215 posts

34 months

Tuesday 13th March
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jontysafe said:
Please think about a roll cage though.
A roll cage won't necessarily save you if you hit a deer at speed, and you're probably more likely to die headbutting a tube on a cage (even if padded) in a side or rear impact than you are rolling the car, on something like a Westfield.

Each to their own, but cages are for track use, where you're wearing a helmet, IMO.

Andy665

Original Poster:

2,197 posts

161 months

Tuesday 13th March
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jontysafe said:
Lovely car!
Please think about a roll cage though.

It’s very similar to what my cosworth powered one was like and the thought of a deer running in front of it and general, if you crash you’re not going to have much chance, made me fit one.

That and the engine upgrades!
Certainly no desire or intention to fit a roll cage. Never heard of a single incident where people in this kind of car have been injured / killed that would otherwise have been saved by a cage.



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jontysafe

1,955 posts

111 months

Tuesday 13th March
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Equus said:
A roll cage won't necessarily save you if you hit a deer at speed, and you're probably more likely to die headbutting a tube on a cage (even if padded) in a side or rear impact than you are rolling the car, on something like a Westfield.

Each to their own, but cages are for track use, where you're wearing a helmet, IMO.
If you’re not wearing a helmet with an aero screened car you are asking for a world of pain anyway. No way I’d not wear a helmet with cage.

jontysafe

1,955 posts

111 months

Tuesday 13th March
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Andy665 said:
Certainly no desire or intention to fit a roll cage. Never heard of a single incident where people in this kind of car have been injured / killed that would otherwise have been saved by a cage.
That’s fine if you’re happy. 😀

Equus

4,215 posts

34 months

Tuesday 13th March
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jontysafe said:
If you’re not wearing a helmet with an aero screened car you are asking for a world of pain anyway. No way I’d not wear a helmet with cage.
Well, I've managed it for a quarter of a century without difficulty - again, you've got to trade off the risk of catching a bumble-bee on the forehead against the risk of catching a BMW 7 Series up the arse because you didn't see it due to restricted visibility. Helmets on the road are OK for bikes, where you can look over your shoulder, but if you're harnessed into a Seven tightly enough for the harness to do its job, your head movement is restricted to the point where they're a bloody liability.

Like I said, each to their own, but think about buying yourself a Volvo if you're going to lecture people on road safety. smile

Berw

2,592 posts

138 months

Tuesday 13th March
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There was some evidence around that a roll cage with a three point harness and no helmet. was actually more dangerous then the open car.
I found it about 5 years ago, when HSE wanted us to put roll cages into the Hiluxes we were using on forest roads in Borneo, company HSE opens Pandora box with a recommendation we could not implement as the cars were leased and had to close it.

jontysafe

1,955 posts

111 months

Wednesday 14th March
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Berw said:
There was some evidence around that a roll cage with a three point harness and no helmet. was actually more dangerous then the open car.
I found it about 5 years ago, when HSE wanted us to put roll cages into the Hiluxes we were using on forest roads in Borneo, company HSE opens Pandora box with a recommendation we could not implement as the cars were leased and had to close it.
Hello K, how are you? Currently travelling through Asia again, Pattaya currently been here a week and a little ‘Pattaya’d’ out. Have the red eye back to Dubai at 3am. Trying to get approval for another trip to KL and Manila so will give you a shout if it all get sorted. And no missed flights this time........

dhutch

2,144 posts

130 months

Wednesday 14th March
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Looks lovely. I have a 1991 narrowbody in the middle of going from 1900 CVH to a 2l zetec after a dropped valve.

Lovely cars to drive, mines at the other end of the budget costing me just £3750, but over the 8 years its had grp seats, megajolt and new battery, quafe lsd, rebushed and springs dampers all round. Yokohama A539 185/60R13 front and rear.
Reliable fun car that's as happy in the road as on track or competiting in club and national level autotests.

I had an 'rac style' braced roll bar fitted, replacing the decorative factory bar, three point hardness, windscreen. Everything is a compromise and most things have a drawback. It's basically never used on track, so road use and autotests. It's driven hard but not as if I'm invincible.


Daniel

urquattroGus

889 posts

123 months

Wednesday 14th March
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Mental car.

I salute you sir!

Andy665

Original Poster:

2,197 posts

161 months

Monday 9th July
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I have been giving some thought to a change of wheel for quite some time, whilst I like and will be keeping the OZ Ultraleggaras I have wanted something with a bit more "bling".

Always liked the quality of Image wheels but always found the price a bit hard to stomach - typically £1500-1600 for a set of 4 in 15" without tyres

Stumbled across a set in the correct fitment for my car a coupe of weeks ago and made a cheeky offer which was accepted. Whilst not new they had been on the car for only 600 miles and had been stored for the last 3 years, fortunately the deal included new tyres which upon collection were the dreaded Toyo T1Rs so took the opportunity to get some nice sticky Nankang NS-"Rs ordered and fitted.

Although they do not look it they are 3 piece, the bolts are mounted on the inside of the rim which means cleaning less of a chore.
Needed a lot of polishing but really happy with the look - even better is that they are 1kg per wheel / tyre lighter than the Ultraleggaras and fill the arches nicely with new 15mm spacers fitted.





23rd June saw me fulfill a long time wish - to drive at Shelsley Walsh hillclimb - the oldest motorsport venue in the world

The hill was hired by the Westfield Sports Car Club for the day and we had 7 hours of unlimited drive time - about 45 cars were there so plenty of time to get in a fair number of runs.

Been a spectator for a few years but driving the hill makes you realise
1. How addictive it is
2. How tough it is to drive it properly - not that for one second am I suggesting I came remotely close to doing so

Was a great opportunity to really push the old girl but on the drive there I was panicking as the new tyres mould release compound took a long time to wear off, the first 40 miles or so was like driving on sheet ice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV1oi2FSskE





Great run out to the Breakfast Club at Shelsley Walsh yesterday, this is a car that is just as happy ambling along at 55-60 as it is being thrashed.

Increasingly going out without a helmet unless fast A roads and motorways are going to be used, certainly no less comfortable, the Carbon NV aeroscreen whips the air up very well so full frontal buffeting is actually kept to reasonable levels.

Despite many SEiGHT owners saying that both oil and water temps can get pretty high the custom radiator and dry sump system is really keep things under control, oil temp rarely gets in to the 90's and water temp is usually below 80 degrees - heat soak at low speed in to the footwells is another matter entirely and may become the winter project.

Great collection of cars at Shelsley this morning, particular favourites of mine being a Guards Red 964, lovely patina of age, clearly loved AND used and an Alfa F12 van - first time I have ever seen one











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