workshop safety
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I've just watched an episode of hot rod build up on TV where one of the workforce was using an angle grinder for cutting without protective gloves, goggles, ear protecters or even overalls, working in a T shirt and jeans, I know its his choice but I sometimes wonder if he really thinks of his health at all, I might be going over the top with my opinions but a near miss made me think twice about my own safety
anyone else share my views?
anyone else share my views?
Should always wear eye and hearing protection, noise induced deafness is not treatable, hearing aids wont help, I just love those cars who cruise by with windows vibrating to sound, the drivers will all suffer severe hearing loss in a few years.
If you have ever seen a pic of the coclea (probably spelt wrong) its the twirly thing in the ear, and it has what looks like hairs on it, noise induced deafness results in these hair thingys dissapearing, just like someone has shaved them off, they will never re-generate, so using noisy equipment, use hearing protection.
Grinding disc, well when they fracture, they are just lethel, so remember guys, they need safety goggles, in my former life (before retirement) I was actually a safety officer, done the courses, seen the vids, etc etc, take care guys
>> Edited by Vipers on Wednesday 8th June 22:22
If you have ever seen a pic of the coclea (probably spelt wrong) its the twirly thing in the ear, and it has what looks like hairs on it, noise induced deafness results in these hair thingys dissapearing, just like someone has shaved them off, they will never re-generate, so using noisy equipment, use hearing protection.
Grinding disc, well when they fracture, they are just lethel, so remember guys, they need safety goggles, in my former life (before retirement) I was actually a safety officer, done the courses, seen the vids, etc etc, take care guys
>> Edited by Vipers on Wednesday 8th June 22:22
Vipers said:
If you have ever seen a pic of the coclea (probably spelt wrong) its the twirly thing in the ear, and it has what looks like hairs on it, noise induced deafness results in these hair thingys dissapearing, just like someone has shaved them off, they will never re-generate, so using noisy equipment, use hearing protection.
Been there, done that!
Mainly driving open top cars (noise levels from from buffeting/road/engine at high speed is as bad as anything you will experience in a workshop) and playing with tuned engines, in my case.
Now deaf as a post. Can't say it bothers me a whole lot, in fact it can be very convenient where women are concerned.
Had a car with lovely Chrome side pipe that exited just behind me on the drivers side , Yes completely deaf on that side . As for accidents , was unfortunately at work when a young apprentice took his hand off with a metal cut off saw . One of the guys who works for me I had to rush to hospital after turning up at his place and found that using a grinder to shave some metal, put shards in his eye
I've had metal pulled out of my eye on a few occasions
I WAS WEARING PROPER GOGGLES
I'm not so sure about wearing gloves, I find you have more control of the grinder without them, and I don't know about anyone else but I have huge trouble getting goggles and a mask to fit properly at the same time
And despite wearing ear defenders the hearing in my right ear is right down
I WAS WEARING PROPER GOGGLES
I'm not so sure about wearing gloves, I find you have more control of the grinder without them, and I don't know about anyone else but I have huge trouble getting goggles and a mask to fit properly at the same time
And despite wearing ear defenders the hearing in my right ear is right down
I always use propper goggles that cover my whole eye sockets (not the glasses type) with the band pretty tight and tough gloves. I've had an angle grinder slip in the past, all too easy for you to slip and get your finger stuck in it. With gloves you may still get burnt but without you'll be saluting with three fingers !
Anybody who doesn't use basic protection needs to have a serious chat with themselves.
Anybody who doesn't use basic protection needs to have a serious chat with themselves.
I an a H&S site engineer on my buildings (maintenance supervisor m&e).It still amazes me,that the subbies that turn up with method statements etc in one hand and then 10 mins later are blatently ignoring all that is written and on my desk.I think they get the message,when I tell them to pack their stuff away and go away......
Safety is number one.
Sometimes, though not often, safety kit does more to hinder your safety than aid it. I'd rather not have an accident than have an accident but be protected to a minimal degree.
Some of the biggest issues to do with safety are about planning. Think about the job you are going to do, consider the consequences of doing the job, and plan to prevent the accidents from occuring in the first place.
My personal faves, are overalls (most always), mask (any kind of dense airborne particulate), glasses (just about any energetic process), gloves (solvents/oils).
>> Edited by dilbert on Sunday 12th June 21:35
Sometimes, though not often, safety kit does more to hinder your safety than aid it. I'd rather not have an accident than have an accident but be protected to a minimal degree.
Some of the biggest issues to do with safety are about planning. Think about the job you are going to do, consider the consequences of doing the job, and plan to prevent the accidents from occuring in the first place.
My personal faves, are overalls (most always), mask (any kind of dense airborne particulate), glasses (just about any energetic process), gloves (solvents/oils).
>> Edited by dilbert on Sunday 12th June 21:35
The thing about safety gear is that before you take a responsible decision about wearing it or not or not you have to know what you are doing and how your safety, and the safety of everyone around you, is going to be affected by your actions. It is ignorance that leads so many people to ignore vital safety equipment or use the wrong type of PPE. IMHO this is an area that the law is to soft on,
and there aren’t many of those!!! People who put themselves at risk are just stupid and Darwin has the answer to that but people who endanger the innocents around them deserve to be 
! I have seen to many “accidents” that could have been avoided by the application of a little thought and logic (and some idea of exactly what the person was actually doing!) to be funny. It is, however, always nice to see some idiot dancing around trying to put out the small fire they have just started from the angle grinder or other minor workshop occurrence! Getting of
now and returning to normal! You bunch of big girly woosies 
Only two ways to learn. Your own experience or someone elses. Hopefully not losing too many fingers along the way.
The problem I have with the attitude of this thread is that just like wiring up the electricity in your own house which is now legislated as too complicated for a non professional to do and therefore illegal for anything but the most basic job. You lot are hurring down the road to a similar atitude to building your kit cars.
Very shortly in this country it will be considered allowing home built cars, or even for that matter self maintained cars is an unacceptable risk to the personal building the car or to the general public when its driven on the road.
I find in many walks of life for anyone who actually does a job to create something, there are a whole bunch of people with conditions, reasons, and general inability to do anything but form an effective brake, or obstruction. I just didn't expect to find so many of then on a kit car forum.
I believe in personal liberty, and that includes the liberty to be stupid with ones own safety. I would only restrict them if, as mentioned earlier that is putting somene else at risk.
Only two ways to learn. Your own experience or someone elses. Hopefully not losing too many fingers along the way.
The problem I have with the attitude of this thread is that just like wiring up the electricity in your own house which is now legislated as too complicated for a non professional to do and therefore illegal for anything but the most basic job. You lot are hurring down the road to a similar atitude to building your kit cars.
Very shortly in this country it will be considered allowing home built cars, or even for that matter self maintained cars is an unacceptable risk to the personal building the car or to the general public when its driven on the road.
I find in many walks of life for anyone who actually does a job to create something, there are a whole bunch of people with conditions, reasons, and general inability to do anything but form an effective brake, or obstruction. I just didn't expect to find so many of then on a kit car forum.
I believe in personal liberty, and that includes the liberty to be stupid with ones own safety. I would only restrict them if, as mentioned earlier that is putting somene else at risk.
I agree entirely and am dead set against the “nanny state” and deplore anyone who attempts to stop me doing what I want to do, as long as I don’t endanger “innocent bystanders”, bring back un-pasteurised milk and soft cheese etc! I am currently attempting to breath new life into an Eagle SS on my drive and regularly use power tools, you just have to have some idea of what you are doing and who is around. The fascination of a big shower of sparks is irresistible to small children, mine and the neighbours’, and you do have to be careful. It is people who just go out and buy “all the gear with no idea” who are dangerous and should be stopped. It seems that the only response you get when politely pointing out that grinding metal in shorts and a vest with no ear or eye protection is not the safest way forwards is unrepeatable!
meeja said:
"Let's talk about shop safety......"
Sorry, couldn't resist it!
I think you'll find it's
"Let's take a moment to talk about shop safety.
Be sure to read, understand, and follow all the instructions that come with your power tools.
Knowing how to use your tools safely will greatly reduce the risk of injury and remember there's no more important safety rule than to wear these [ taps glasses ] safety glasses"
I need to get out more.
the idiot dancing round his workshop after setting something on fire was me with pullover on fire after sparks set me on fire, needed clean undies after that one! hence the reason for the leather apron = no more tarzan impressions from me.
I wouldn't dream of telling anyone that I think they're silly not using ppe, they can find that out for themselves and I certainly don't advocate the 'nanny state' type of attitude, it just made me cringe watching the chap doing the job.
I wouldn't dream of telling anyone that I think they're silly not using ppe, they can find that out for themselves and I certainly don't advocate the 'nanny state' type of attitude, it just made me cringe watching the chap doing the job.
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