Three wheeler Cabin Scooter Design
Discussion
Italo,
Been following this thread with interest partly due to the fact that you are heavily involed in it (love your stuff) and partly because I think f done right this sort of thing has real potential.
The one point the has come up recently is escape. Personally I carry an escape device in my car which has a retractable spike for bursting airbags (your m/c probably wont have any anyway) a conealed blade for slitting the seatbelt and a hammer for breaking glass. Gives me peace of mind but hope never to use it. Got it very cheap tho and you could probably include one prefitted in every machine. I realise that its a finishing touch but the idea was active on the thread so thought Id comment.
Ill see if I can find a manufaturer to see if you could do a bulk deal and if the car doesnt take off you can always sell the for a small profit anyway
Been following this thread with interest partly due to the fact that you are heavily involed in it (love your stuff) and partly because I think f done right this sort of thing has real potential.
The one point the has come up recently is escape. Personally I carry an escape device in my car which has a retractable spike for bursting airbags (your m/c probably wont have any anyway) a conealed blade for slitting the seatbelt and a hammer for breaking glass. Gives me peace of mind but hope never to use it. Got it very cheap tho and you could probably include one prefitted in every machine. I realise that its a finishing touch but the idea was active on the thread so thought Id comment.
Ill see if I can find a manufaturer to see if you could do a bulk deal and if the car doesnt take off you can always sell the for a small profit anyway
Just to add I really think a steering wheel rather than a handlebar is the way to go.
Unfortunately, as soon as you put a handlebar on a vehicle with more than two wheels, it always gets derogative "disabled/cripple car" type comments thrown at it. Even if it can be fitted with 'bars, always display it with a steering wheel.
Unfortunately, as soon as you put a handlebar on a vehicle with more than two wheels, it always gets derogative "disabled/cripple car" type comments thrown at it. Even if it can be fitted with 'bars, always display it with a steering wheel.
mrmaggit said:
Just to add I really think a steering wheel rather than a handlebar is the way to go.
Unfortunately, as soon as you put a handlebar on a vehicle with more than two wheels, it always gets derogative "disabled/cripple car" type comments thrown at it. Even if it can be fitted with 'bars, always display it with a steering wheel.
it'll cause complications though - getting insurance quotes on trikes with steering wheels can prove to be interesting (by interesting I obviously mean infuriating, pathetic and enough to make you tear your hair out and scream at the imbeciles.)Unfortunately, as soon as you put a handlebar on a vehicle with more than two wheels, it always gets derogative "disabled/cripple car" type comments thrown at it. Even if it can be fitted with 'bars, always display it with a steering wheel.
Davi said:
mrmaggit said:
Just to add I really think a steering wheel rather than a handlebar is the way to go.
Unfortunately, as soon as you put a handlebar on a vehicle with more than two wheels, it always gets derogative "disabled/cripple car" type comments thrown at it. Even if it can be fitted with 'bars, always display it with a steering wheel.
it'll cause complications though - getting insurance quotes on trikes with steering wheels can prove to be interesting (by interesting I obviously mean infuriating, pathetic and enough to make you tear your hair out and scream at the imbeciles.)Unfortunately, as soon as you put a handlebar on a vehicle with more than two wheels, it always gets derogative "disabled/cripple car" type comments thrown at it. Even if it can be fitted with 'bars, always display it with a steering wheel.
mrmaggit said:
Davi said:
mrmaggit said:
Just to add I really think a steering wheel rather than a handlebar is the way to go.
Unfortunately, as soon as you put a handlebar on a vehicle with more than two wheels, it always gets derogative "disabled/cripple car" type comments thrown at it. Even if it can be fitted with 'bars, always display it with a steering wheel.
it'll cause complications though - getting insurance quotes on trikes with steering wheels can prove to be interesting (by interesting I obviously mean infuriating, pathetic and enough to make you tear your hair out and scream at the imbeciles.)Unfortunately, as soon as you put a handlebar on a vehicle with more than two wheels, it always gets derogative "disabled/cripple car" type comments thrown at it. Even if it can be fitted with 'bars, always display it with a steering wheel.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/environment/27...
did anybody know about the Dolphin Concept threewheler project ?
did anybody know about the Dolphin Concept threewheler project ?
Vindi_andy said:
Italo,
Been following this thread with interest partly due to the fact that you are heavily involed in it (love your stuff) and partly because I think f done right this sort of thing has real potential.
The one point the has come up recently is escape. Personally I carry an escape device in my car which has a retractable spike for bursting airbags (your m/c probably wont have any anyway) a conealed blade for slitting the seatbelt and a hammer for breaking glass. Gives me peace of mind but hope never to use it. Got it very cheap tho and you could probably include one prefitted in every machine. I realise that its a finishing touch but the idea was active on the thread so thought Id comment.
Ill see if I can find a manufaturer to see if you could do a bulk deal and if the car doesnt take off you can always sell the for a small profit anyway
Thanks Andy for comment....Been following this thread with interest partly due to the fact that you are heavily involed in it (love your stuff) and partly because I think f done right this sort of thing has real potential.
The one point the has come up recently is escape. Personally I carry an escape device in my car which has a retractable spike for bursting airbags (your m/c probably wont have any anyway) a conealed blade for slitting the seatbelt and a hammer for breaking glass. Gives me peace of mind but hope never to use it. Got it very cheap tho and you could probably include one prefitted in every machine. I realise that its a finishing touch but the idea was active on the thread so thought Id comment.
Ill see if I can find a manufaturer to see if you could do a bulk deal and if the car doesnt take off you can always sell the for a small profit anyway
, I like your idea and should be considered on the options list. Safety is important, especially in such small vehicles.
The Dolphin is powered by a 2 stroke and made using new aluminium or fibreglass("Dooh!"), which doesn't sound toooo greeeeen to me??
If it has to be "green" then re-cycling existing car parts that have already had the energy put into them and would otherwise have to have more energy put into them for disposal/recycling, must be the best option?
Its like the wind turbines, when you can be bothered to add up the energy it takes to make and erect one, the chance of them producing "green" energy is absolutely laughable.
"Look at the bigger (global) picture...."
If it has to be "green" then re-cycling existing car parts that have already had the energy put into them and would otherwise have to have more energy put into them for disposal/recycling, must be the best option?
Its like the wind turbines, when you can be bothered to add up the energy it takes to make and erect one, the chance of them producing "green" energy is absolutely laughable.
"Look at the bigger (global) picture...."
NDT said:
robcollingridge said:
Here we go, found a picture:
Rob
That looks exactly like the Prodrive NARO concept from a few years ago (while I worked there).Rob
From reading the blurb, the Smera has powered leaning (like the Carver) while the NARO was free-leaning - in other words it leant like a bike, with counter steering needed. The main area of work was on the control system that superimposed the countersteer over the car-style* steering input.
- i.e. steer left to go left, rather than steer right then left to go left, like on a bike.
http://www.naro.co.uk/index2.htm
I'm not sure i would like such a tall vehicle.....
Interesting piece of info from the NARO website, and if true, as i think it is, quite a few kitcar manufacturers should look into this potential new niche........
It could also be marketing speak to get financial backing....
, but even if it were a quarter from what predicted, it should make for some sales activity.
The NARO Market
The automotive industry business experts Prof. Garel Rhys and Dr. Paul Nieuwenhuis of Cardiff University Centre for Automotive Industry Research has predicted that the UK Market size for this ‘sub-car’ sector will grow progressively to 20,000/year by 2012. This will be fueled by: increasing congestion, ultra low CO2 requirements, parking scarcity, and financial incentives (e.g. freedom from congestion charging). The cutting edge styling and rewarding driver experience of Naro will ensure that it secures a significant place in this market sector.
It could also be marketing speak to get financial backing....
, but even if it were a quarter from what predicted, it should make for some sales activity.The NARO Market
The automotive industry business experts Prof. Garel Rhys and Dr. Paul Nieuwenhuis of Cardiff University Centre for Automotive Industry Research has predicted that the UK Market size for this ‘sub-car’ sector will grow progressively to 20,000/year by 2012. This will be fueled by: increasing congestion, ultra low CO2 requirements, parking scarcity, and financial incentives (e.g. freedom from congestion charging). The cutting edge styling and rewarding driver experience of Naro will ensure that it secures a significant place in this market sector.
Edited by fuoriserie on Monday 23 February 16:06
Partners to this project were some of the best companies in the UK Automotive industry.
http://www.naro.co.uk/index2.htm
http://www.naro.co.uk/index2.htm
911hillclimber said:
Too tall and too narrow = unstable before you get into it even.
The original sketch for me is the best design proportion which I think is why it struck such an accord with us all!
Old engineering addage:
If it looks right it probably is.
it does have four wheels though, but I agree with you, if it looks right, it probably is....eventhough the final design for the first prototype is going to be different.The original sketch for me is the best design proportion which I think is why it struck such an accord with us all!
Old engineering addage:
If it looks right it probably is.
Edited by fuoriserie on Monday 23 February 20:22
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