Microcars and lightcars in Europe
Discussion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3v2R4nFwkwc&fea...
I like the door opening of this Heuliez friendly concept microcar....
I like the door opening of this Heuliez friendly concept microcar....
A new Microcar Concept from PSA:
http://www.technologicvehicles.com/en/green-transp...
and a video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JENis8ynvQo&fea...
http://www.technologicvehicles.com/en/green-transp...
and a video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JENis8ynvQo&fea...
Edited by fuoriserie on Tuesday 27th September 21:34
Thank you for Italo F.Sciacca for all the links to some very interesting cars. A few really are great looking cars and a few are ugly but still interesting!
The Kengune should be build blue. In the UK until recently you could occasionally see a blue "disable cars" that looked very like this. These were not great cars and died sometime around the late 70's or very early 80's. Apart from the electric motors and colour these seem the same. I doubt this will go any where as normal cars can be converted. Where I live I often see a wheelchair design trike scooter.
I loved the Grecav and Crossbone. Sadly not sold in the UK.
How long before BMW complain that Chatenet CH26 is to close to the Mini! They stopped Marcos use the world Mini for the Mini Marcos.
There is a classic British micro car that should be updated for today. The Berkley was a great looking 1950's sports car. A car that use FWD to great effect before the Mini and in it B105 version it could do 105 mph. From just 692cc and 50bhp, are any of today micro cars as fast?
This a picture of the T60 a three wheeler version at sold very well. It is a classic looking design that update in the right way could sell again. I do not know it you would build with three or four wheels (4 for me). The price would need to low, £4-5000 on the road!
The Kengune should be build blue. In the UK until recently you could occasionally see a blue "disable cars" that looked very like this. These were not great cars and died sometime around the late 70's or very early 80's. Apart from the electric motors and colour these seem the same. I doubt this will go any where as normal cars can be converted. Where I live I often see a wheelchair design trike scooter.
I loved the Grecav and Crossbone. Sadly not sold in the UK.
How long before BMW complain that Chatenet CH26 is to close to the Mini! They stopped Marcos use the world Mini for the Mini Marcos.
There is a classic British micro car that should be updated for today. The Berkley was a great looking 1950's sports car. A car that use FWD to great effect before the Mini and in it B105 version it could do 105 mph. From just 692cc and 50bhp, are any of today micro cars as fast?
This a picture of the T60 a three wheeler version at sold very well. It is a classic looking design that update in the right way could sell again. I do not know it you would build with three or four wheels (4 for me). The price would need to low, £4-5000 on the road!
KDIcarmad said:
Found this does any know what it is? (Try photo seach on Google.)
I like it, it look very cute. Love those doors, always wanted Lambo doors on a car, they really fit this car.
Here is the original version on sale as a used example:
http://www.soccol.it/template/foto.aspx?id=124&...
http://www.autoblog.it/post/931/k200-slc
Pictures of the chassis:
http://www.jeccomposites.com/news/composites-news/...
qdos said:
I thought SLC had gone belly up. I saw the car in London a few years back and have always liked it. I'm not a fan of Carbon fibre though most of the time it's unnecessary
The holding company went belly up...but they must be under some new ownership now ? anyway it was the ATR Group, manufaturers of the carbon fiber chassis for the Enzo and Carrera GT V10cylinder supercar,Their website:
http://www.atrgroup.it/slck2.php
Thank you for this information. There does seem to be some uncertainty as to if this is or is not still being sold. Or how owns it. It also show how unconnected to the Europe's micro cars we in the UK are. I find this very sad, there seen to be a lot very interesting car we never hear of, just over the channel.
I know the most likely reason, they drive on the wrong side of the road (or do we). The cars would need to be converted to RHD to sell in our market. Would the market be large for these cars?
I know the most likely reason, they drive on the wrong side of the road (or do we). The cars would need to be converted to RHD to sell in our market. Would the market be large for these cars?
KDIcarmad said:
Thank you for this information. There does seem to be some uncertainty as to if this is or is not still being sold. Or how owns it. It also show how unconnected to the Europe's micro cars we in the UK are. I find this very sad, there seen to be a lot very interesting car we never hear of, just over the channel.
I know the most likely reason, they drive on the wrong side of the road (or do we). The cars would need to be converted to RHD to sell in our market. Would the market be large for these cars?
the biggest problem has been that the UK licensing, tax and insurance systems were never set up to favour microcars ... I know the most likely reason, they drive on the wrong side of the road (or do we). The cars would need to be converted to RHD to sell in our market. Would the market be large for these cars?
KDIcarmad said:
I know the most likely reason, they drive on the wrong side of the road (or do we). The cars would need to be converted to RHD to sell in our market. Would the market be large for these cars?
As I mentioned in a past thread, we're talking about 40.000 Quadricycles sold all over Europe and a potential market for any kitcar manufacturer who wanted to expand in mainland Europe....unfortunately no takers on the idea, but who knows in the futureOn the contrary, my MEV MIssile was tested under the MSVA scheme for a fee of only £199 and was easy to pass, costs nothing to tax as it's electric and insurance was only £110 fully comp. It is easy to build a centre steer trike, they don't need to be converted to LHD or RHD! 3 seats maybe. To be MSVAable all 4 wheeled (heavy quadricycles) have to be under 400kgs and below 15kw. 4 wheelers classed as trikes are MSVAable if one axle has wheels no more than 16" apart, then the only limiting factor is weight at 1000kgs max, I call that very flexible
mph1977 said:
the biggest problem has been that the UK licensing, tax and insurance systems were never set up to favour microcars ...
fuoriserie said:
KDIcarmad said:
I know the most likely reason, they drive on the wrong side of the road (or do we). The cars would need to be converted to RHD to sell in our market. Would the market be large for these cars?
As I mentioned in a past thread, we're talking about 40.000 Quadricycles sold all over Europe and a potential market for any kitcar manufacturer who wanted to expand in mainland Europe....unfortunately no takers on the idea, but who knows in the futureStuart Mills said:
On the contrary, my MEV MIssile was tested under the MSVA scheme for a fee of only £199 and was easy to pass, costs nothing to tax as it's electric and insurance was only £110 fully comp. It is easy to build a centre steer trike, they don't need to be converted to LHD or RHD! 3 seats maybe. To be MSVAable all 4 wheeled (heavy quadricycles) have to be under 400kgs and below 15kw. 4 wheelers classed as trikes are MSVAable if one axle has wheels no more than 16" apart, then the only limiting factor is weight at 1000kgs max, I call that very flexible
mph1977 said:
the biggest problem has been that the UK licensing, tax and insurance systems were never set up to favour microcars ...
For a while now I have try to update the ideas behind this...
The Mk2 Scootacar.
In the end as I can not draw, I real can not draw. I use google sketch-up. Slowly moved away the Scootscars to this idea...
A three seater micro sportscar idea, a MK4-5 Scootacar. I hope a few other have a go at updates or just comment on this... Please be nice about it. I know the fronts to long and I have not put any front lights on.
Clearly there could be a market for an update of the Scootacar ideas. More sporting less cheap transport. I hope this and what Stuart Mills has posted leads to a real car, a British car.
Edited by KDIcarmad on Sunday 15th July 11:49
A fantastic collection of images of microcars of the past:
http://www.flickr.com/groups/bubblecars/pool/page1...
I'm sure you can get a few ideas....
http://www.flickr.com/groups/bubblecars/pool/page1...
I'm sure you can get a few ideas....
Bumping up this thread...for all those tha like Retro Microcars, check and download this PDF
http://www.rmauctions.com/digitalcatalogs/2013/BW1...
Enjoy....
http://www.rmauctions.com/digitalcatalogs/2013/BW1...
Enjoy....
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