Murtaya

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p1doc

3,124 posts

185 months

Thursday 11th February 2010
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i will wait till your reply neil but as you can see i am not too happy about present situation at all
martin

p1doc

3,124 posts

185 months

Thursday 11th February 2010
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My car build was paid upfront and so where most of the other customers. The article makes it sound like we were supposed to loose our cars to creditors (No! my car was paid for and belonged to me.) or that Neil had contracted all work out so he could keep the money or make money. This is not the case as Neil is making nothing off of my build and don't think he is making anything off of anybody else's who has been "contracted out". I am out of pocket because of this fiasco. Neil is however trying to help me where he can.

if the cars had been in adrenaline when it went into administration i would be up to the owners to prove the cars were theirs and not the companies as i understand it
i am left as are several others with having to get someone else to finish the car and im my particular position to rebuy parts i had paid for,neil has kept in touch by email but nil else but as singlecoil has said the longer it goes on the less chance of getting any money back
i would be interested to se how neil can pay the several owners tthe money back as well as paying for subcontractors..??
martin


singlecoil

33,698 posts

247 months

Thursday 11th February 2010
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p1doc said:
as singlecoil has said the longer it goes on the less chance of getting any money back

That wasn't me that said that.


It may well be true, but it wasn't me. Where is your car at the moment, BTW?

p1doc

3,124 posts

185 months

Thursday 11th February 2010
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Moogle said:
I've got the separate magazine from CKC for the Murtaya, lovely to read.

Just curious about the latest stuff in both magazines, are we talking December and January issues or January and February? Or where the forum is (if it's not the one I linked).lol the kit car and complete kit car out at the moment and last month's kit car-always confusing when march issue comes out in feb etc

So I'm guessing the facilities down in Cornwall are no longer? I guess Arden is closer to London.

Has anyone actually weighed their car? Especially the carbon fibre one? I'm wondering how close to the specified weights they actually are.
supposed to be 925kg for normal and 850kg for carbon fibre although one carbon fibre one has weighed in over100kg according to it's owner??!!

martin

p1doc

3,124 posts

185 months

Thursday 11th February 2010
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singlecoil said:
p1doc said:
as singlecoil has said the longer it goes on the less chance of getting any money back

That wasn't me that said that.


It may well be true, but it wasn't me. Where is your car at the moment, BTW?
sorry for misquoting
my car is at engine tuner at the moment having had to get front mount intercooler as supplied tmic was not adequate,also needed a new clutch as original donor clutch has only lasted 2 dyno sessions and i have not even driven it yet lol it then goes back to arden for IVA and rest or rebuild/build-complicated lol
martin

Moogle

257 posts

171 months

Thursday 11th February 2010
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p1doc said:
supposed to be 925kg for normal and 850kg for carbon fibre although one carbon fibre one has weighed in over100kg according to it's owner??!!

martin
This is what I am afraid of, sure would be nice to see some completed cars on weighing scales.

911hillclimber

486 posts

196 months

Thursday 11th February 2010
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When I looked into the Mutaya for hillclimbs using by 370 bhp Sti as the doner, the cost of shedding the 100Kg or so was quite high in comparison to the fibreglass version.
Almost cheaper to tweek the engine more to get the same/better power-to-weight.

The key thing that made me hesitate with the car was the rear subframe onto the f'glass tub direct, ie no backbone to the car, or have I miss something?

I am sure it would make a rocket of a hillclimb car.

p1doc

3,124 posts

185 months

Thursday 11th February 2010
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i think the rear subframe does bolt onto the grp mould but it is strong enough-wekk i hope lol
geoff-has a murt he uses for hillsprints down in cornwall i think
martin

Gnits

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920 posts

202 months

Thursday 11th February 2010
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The major 6 speed box differences I have found are:
- You spend less time changing gears - the STI 5 speed with the kind of power in mine means that it is so fast in gear that you probably spend most of the acceleration with the clutch down. Now you could probably launch in 2nd and still make it to 60 in just that gear.
- It also means that in 6th that the turbo is not even spooling up until about 95 mph ... apparently. The STI RA box I had was so short that 75 sounded too much in top.

Neil no probs at all, any excuse for a play!

p1doc

3,124 posts

185 months

Thursday 11th February 2010
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i loved my 6 speed gearbox in my sti but is bottom of my list of things t oget after recent expenses-FMIC new clutch exhaust new trim rewiring of dash lol
martin

Gnits

Original Poster:

920 posts

202 months

Thursday 11th February 2010
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Exhaust - you will LOVE that! The sound when you take the roof off and go through a tunnel - oh my god!
I started my car in a car-park on Thurs and it sounded SO SO good!

SA boy

661 posts

191 months

Thursday 11th February 2010
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Is that all you needed to replace, man my list is much longer:
New top end for engine, new ancillaries for engine,clutch,fly wheel, new turbo,exhaust, brakes I am sure I am forgetting stuff.lol At least it will go on a new plate, since everything is new.

I have the v spec gearbox which is supposed to be longer legged. Hopefully it will suffice. I believe that the 5 speeds are a bit weak and that the power that the car will put out may chew it up? Guess I will go for the anti lag instead of the launch control option then.

Ian

Gnits

Original Poster:

920 posts

202 months

Thursday 11th February 2010
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Ian,
Don't forget that your Murt will be lighter than the Impreza - you will probably get more clutch than anticipated!
Most of my Murtaya turned out to be new, just how things turned out, but I think that the clutch is still original. I would choose launch over Anti-lag given the £. I don't have either although I could do given my ECU but at the end of the day Anti-lag EATS turbos. I don't full bore launch either and that may cost me on sprints but I have to drive home in the same car so I don't care!
If I had the £ then I would have both, Anti-lag sounds SO great I would almost have if for that alone!

pfedwards

72 posts

226 months

Thursday 11th February 2010
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neilrallying said:
I saw his news editorial on Sunday. It is factually incorrect and is edited to imply things which are simply untrue.
I have no involvement with Kit Car or Adrenaline but do tell us more.

What exactly was incorrect in the News item?

(I guess you owe them money for unpaid advertising which probably doesn't help?)

p1doc

3,124 posts

185 months

Friday 12th February 2010
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Gnits said:
Ian,
Don't forget that your Murt will be lighter than the Impreza - you will probably get more clutch than anticipated!
Most of my Murtaya turned out to be new, just how things turned out, but I think that the clutch is still original. I would choose launch over Anti-lag given the £. I don't have either although I could do given my ECU but at the end of the day Anti-lag EATS turbos. I don't full bore launch either and that may cost me on sprints but I have to drive home in the same car so I don't care!
If I had the £ then I would have both, Anti-lag sounds SO great I would almost have if for that alone!
you can get antilag and launch as deal and not true antilag lol my original clutch has given out despite the fact i have not driven it and has only had 2 dyno sessions so donor parts dont seem that good quality to me-waiting to hear back from jase re this ,i dont have the original turbo or speedo as these went "missing"-still waiting for jase to get me a speedo as obviously this was included as part of the donor money i paid lol
still no word from neil either
martin

SA boy

661 posts

191 months

Friday 12th February 2010
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Hi Martin
So its not true anti lag as you get in the rally cars? Sounds awesome, but if does nothing except eat the turbo then I suppose it would be silly to opt for it. I intend putting in a 6 speed dccd later once I have gotten use to the car's performance. Launch control would be OK with the 6 speed I believe. Still the occasions that would call for that kind of violent take off would be few and far between unless I use it for 0-60 type trials.


p1doc

3,124 posts

185 months

Friday 12th February 2010
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as far as i understand it it is not true rally style antilag lol but still sounds nice
i will be likely getting 6 speed in future either with or without dccd as can be adapted using external controller but need to get car running first
it should have a type-r 5 speed gearbox which should be fine for 300bhp and occasional 370bhp blasts... or i could convert to PPG gearbox!
IVA is due 25/02 and am coming down to see it at arden on 22/02 to look at the paint damage trim and exhaust that need replacing
martin

p1doc

3,124 posts

185 months

Friday 12th February 2010
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normally 6 speed gearbox makes 0-60 slightly slower as have to change to third gear just before 60 whilst 5 speed gearbocx gets you to 60 in second but much louder and not as strong as 6 speed gearbox-horses for courses as they say
martin

911hillclimber

486 posts

196 months

Friday 12th February 2010
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The 6'er is very heavy V the 5'er
I had a Type R in my Sti hillclimber and it was very nice. Had an RA before and that was horrible, just tooooooooooooo low geared.

The last of the 5'ers were stronger than the first ones.

It is torque that kills the 5'er.

p1doc

3,124 posts

185 months

Friday 12th February 2010
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what sort of levels of torque are you "torqing" about lol?
martin