Murtaya

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p1doc

2,494 posts

115 months

Saturday 2nd January 2010
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sorry to hear good luck with sale
i dont suppose you know spec of td05 20g??
pm sent
martin

SA boy

661 posts

121 months

Thursday 14th January 2010
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Hi Gnits
I am still waiting for mine as well. Still have not decided on colour. I was going to go white but changed my mind. Post box red or very dark like yours. Happy to hear that you enjoy the car so much. Its been over a year now waiting for mine, (not without issues that need resolving) at least I know it may be worth the wait.
Sorry to hear you need to sell.

Edited by SA boy on Friday 15th January 11:06

p1doc

2,494 posts

115 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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at moment engine tuner are putting in S206 turbo Roger Clark motorsport manifolds and FMIC with IVA planned for 28/01 so some light at the end of the tunnel lol-any time plan for yours yet?
martin

SA boy

661 posts

121 months

Saturday 16th January 2010
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You must be so excited. Mine is due mid February but I am thinking end of February more likely. Steve reckons he has 2 weeks of work on the car and paint takes about 2 weeks.IVA and tuning still need doing. Perhaps even longer lol.

Let me know when you get yours.

Cheers
Ian

p1doc

2,494 posts

115 months

Saturday 16th January 2010
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i will let everone know lol
martin
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Gnits

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825 posts

132 months

Saturday 16th January 2010
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Are you guys going to do any sprints?

p1doc

2,494 posts

115 months

Monday 18th January 2010
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night do some 1/4 miles at crail but maily knockhill fast road and nurburgring
martin

SA boy

661 posts

121 months

Monday 18th January 2010
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I would give that a try. I will be doing track days. I did Nurburg in a 1997 RX7. Wouldn’t mind doing that trip again in the Murtaya.

300bhp/ton

34,414 posts

121 months

Monday 18th January 2010
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Gnits said:
Some of you have asked questions about the Murtaya so I thought a thread on it would be best:

I had a VXT and then a VXR and I believe I saw a thread on the VX220 forum about the Murtaya a Subaru based kit car. I went down to Newquay where the company Adrenaline Motorsport is based and had a go in the demo car and was really very impressed, Neil the MD, can REALLY pedal a car but even when I had a drive I could get a good turn of speed out of it. Getting back into the VXR seemed like I was getting into a cheaper, rattlier less well made vehicle with real wind noise problems!
A few months later I was gently following a lady in her Scoob wagon around a roundabout in the rain and as she went around it I had one of those 'moments'! I pretty much decided that I had had my time in the VXR and did not want to be the t*sser who crashes one of only 65 cars.

So I got a Murtaya.

Delivery took a while but I was prepared for that and made it clear that delays were no bother while I had something to trundle about in (Mondeo). Plus the guys would send pics over every now and then of how my car was doing. I went down for a 'fitting' for seat position etc and to make sure I was happy with the car. I did take a LONG time to decide on colour, in the end it was between dark green and dark blue. I wanted something that would not say to the Bib "Hello, please nick me!". It ended up being blue that I chose!

So what is it like:
Well some of the issues are the same as the VX -
- Water tightness is more of a very nearly but not quite at the moment
- Getting in and out is nearly identical
- Passenger door has dropped a little bit but that now seems sorted
- I end up thinking of reasons to go for a drive just cos...


However,
- Boot has great access and is larger
- 4wd makes cornering in the wet and with standing water much less pant threatening
- The alarm does not go off when someone rings the neighbours doorbell
- Modifications are pretty much expected and there is a very lively Subaru modifying scene
- I don't hit the horn when going round a corner
- I don't have a dent in my head from holding up the bonnet
- The sound is really incredible
- Tax and especially Insurance are MUCH cheaper.

So what is it?
It is a GRP composite monocoque with a 2.5l race spec Subaru block with lightened flywheel, Steel crank and Forged pistons. The donor Subaru was a type RA and so I had the DCCD torque split control and type RA gearbox from that which has now been replaced by a WR1 box still with the DCCD. The hard top lifts off and even when travelling at speed with the top off wind noise is incredibly low.
The whole things weighs about 900kg and now has ~370+bhp and 395 lb/ft with a switchable map to 'economy'. 'Economy' power can be translated as insane and the full lot is bonkers³ in the extreme - the AMS demo car weighed more than mine and had less power (340bhp) and managed a timed run to 60 of 3.5s with two gear changes.

What's it like to drive?
It is not as numb as I thought 4wd and power steering would be at all, it is very much a car you pick up and throw down the road hooligan style and I get the impression it would be much happier if I went sideways everywhere. The power is really insane, it is just SO quick and feels more like a motorbike in terms of overtaking. The whole thing is very planted and solid feeling.

I did not want to build the car myself so instead I asked for some stuff to be left not finished so that while I can drive around there are still things I can do so that I can tinker about in a pathetic kind of way, so little bits of trim here and there get done every now and then which is nice to do knowing that I am not messing with a 'standard' car and no-one will tell me I should have done this or that.

I did love the VXs a lot, they really are very pretty cars too, I know the Murtaya isn't (to guys anyway) ALL the girls I know say the Murtaya is much better looking than the VX but then, what do girls know? The performance in the Murt is unbelievable, 'epic' as the Clarkson would say so I am happy with my choice.
Plus no more Vauxhall dealers!!
Lovely, lovely car biggrin it looks fab in that colour too.

Really like these, but sadly not financially viable for me at this time, else I'd be so tempted!

Cheers for the good right up smile

p1doc

2,494 posts

115 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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SA boy said:
I would give that a try. I will be doing track days. I did Nurburg in a 1997 RX7. Wouldn’t mind doing that trip again in the Murtaya.
i have taken my last 2 scoobies modified 03 sti and remapped 09diesel wrx around ring for last 5 years with friends and trackmasters-good fun! murtaya was supposed to be ready for may last year and had planned european driving trip in september to ring/stelvio passes/lake como so had to take diesel scooby instead-had a great time still though!
martin

SA boy

661 posts

121 months

Wednesday 20th January 2010
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So you know the Nurburgring quiet well then. I practiced on my sons play station before going over. Cant say it helped much,just too many corners.lol I would love to do trip through the mainland like you described, its just finding the time to do it. Diesel scooby hey, is that the wife's car? I am stuck driving the family wagon while I wait.

I see you went for a different turbo. What made you decide against the TD05? I am just asking as I just had the 20g one fitted and was wondering what the difference was.

p1doc

2,494 posts

115 months

Wednesday 20th January 2010
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there are a lot of bad 20g's out there esp chinese forced performance knock offs which dont give good boost/bhp S206 is only £300 more but futue proof as capable of 500bhp and more,once FMIC fiited you would have to remove/alter to replace turbo so more hassle-hence why i got headers done at same time-is your IVa booked yet as you may need letter from neil as did i in order to book it!
martin

p1doc

2,494 posts

115 months

Thursday 21st January 2010
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and diesel scooby is mine lol 18"prodrive alloys remapped to 180bhp 340lbs/ft torque with 6 speed gearbox and quad exhaust-faster than any of our murtayas at the moment lol
martin

SA boy

661 posts

121 months

Thursday 21st January 2010
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By the sound of it , it could be faster than my Murtaya period. I have a 20g on mine, I hope like hell it doesnt say: MADE IN CHINA lol

Neil has contacted me and he did say he will do me a letter. No date for IVA yet. Mine is getting prepared for paint and the engine is being put together with all its bits. They say about 4 weeks. So probably more like 6.

p1doc

2,494 posts

115 months

Thursday 21st January 2010
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my IVA is now 11/02 due to delays with FMIC pipework so at this rate may be ready for may=1 year overdue lol
best Td05 generally come from andy forrest-generally a 370-390bhp turbo,knock off ones tend to have spooling issues and boost creep which can be a b*gger to sort out
martin

Edited by p1doc on Thursday 21st January 16:18

911hillclimber

486 posts

126 months

Thursday 21st January 2010
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I had a forrest supplied 20G on my hillclimb/road Impreza and it was really nice (but also mapped by Andy)

Still on the car sold 2 years ago and running sweetly.

Gnits

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825 posts

132 months

Thursday 21st January 2010
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How can you tell if you have a duff turbo - any serial numbers to check?
Mine is making over 370 at the mo I am guessing it is the proper job.

p1doc

2,494 posts

115 months

Thursday 21st January 2010
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if you got from jase at scoobybits he should be able to tell you where he sourced it from-andy forrest scoobyclinic ebay etc or it should be on receipt,i am not that much of a geek to know serial numbers but if you post on sidc someone will know!

hi 911-remember your project threads on scoobynet-very interesting small world eh!
martin

SA boy

661 posts

121 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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I bought my turbo off of e-bay so dread having to look. lol

brandonesterer

31 posts

102 months

Tuesday 26th January 2010
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heres my dads- built last year- carbon. no interior yet. more picks soon