Three Wheelers - Your opinions and expertise wanted!

Three Wheelers - Your opinions and expertise wanted!

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stig mills

1,208 posts

206 months

Thursday 21st April 2011
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Just remembered that motor on the top is a belt drive starter that pulls the car along then kicks the engine in at a pre set pedal position. Like a Prius.

dave de roxby

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544 posts

195 months

Friday 22nd April 2011
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stig mills said:
I had a very serious look at golf car engines, they use 2 cyl eco engines in a very compact layout with CVT as shown. Take off the gov and they shift too. Ideal for a lightweight single person commute. They have drum brakes and a mech reverse gear on the trans. There are always lots for sale that are 3 years old ex hire for around £6-£800.
The track width could be considered too narrow but it is fairly easy to alter and complete the layout with a single front wheel/headstock from a scooter.
Very interesting. I hadn't thought of these before. Thanks Stiggy! Wonder if it would be possible to adapt the final drive to independant? Needs a closer look.

qdos

825 posts

210 months

Friday 22nd April 2011
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Funnily enough I was looking under one of these this week too at Monkey World. The engine is situated under the floor just in front of the rear axle. I was wondering how the carts were sometimes running on electric and sometimes not.

fuoriserie

4,560 posts

269 months

Friday 22nd April 2011
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stig mills said:
I had a very serious look at golf car engines, they use 2 cyl eco engines in a very compact layout with CVT as shown. Take off the gov and they shift too. Ideal for a lightweight single person commute. They have drum brakes and a mech reverse gear on the trans. There are always lots for sale that are 3 years old ex hire for around £6-£800.
The track width could be considered too narrow but it is fairly easy to alter and complete the layout with a single front wheel/headstock from a scooter.
It is a good idea and perfect for a four wheeler too:

http://www.brenhamyamaha.com/g-max_4-pass_gas_2007...


dave de roxby

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544 posts

195 months

Friday 22nd April 2011
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fuoriserie said:
stig mills said:
I had a very serious look at golf car engines, they use 2 cyl eco engines in a very compact layout with CVT as shown. Take off the gov and they shift too. Ideal for a lightweight single person commute. They have drum brakes and a mech reverse gear on the trans. There are always lots for sale that are 3 years old ex hire for around £6-£800.
The track width could be considered too narrow but it is fairly easy to alter and complete the layout with a single front wheel/headstock from a scooter.
It is a good idea and perfect for a four wheeler too:

http://www.brenhamyamaha.com/g-max_4-pass_gas_2007...
But no suspension (apparently?) unless the whole engine and subframe go up and down, pivoted at the front??
I dunno! Maybe it's totally solid, relying on bush compliance?? Fine for a 5mph golf-cart I suppose.

I know a new, clean sheet design for small engine/transaxle would be prohibitively expensive but I'm thinking a re-design/adaptation of some existing engineering might be possible??





stig mills

1,208 posts

206 months

Saturday 23rd April 2011
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golf cars tend to have coil overs in each corner. Some have leaf springs

dave de roxby

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544 posts

195 months

Saturday 23rd April 2011
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stig mills said:
golf cars tend to have coil overs in each corner. Some have leaf springs
Thanks, I must have a proper look. Can't quite work out from the photo how the axle is attached but the package certainly looks to have applications for other small vehicles.

However, I've come to the conclusion that what I am actually seeking for my three wheeler design is a more modern interpretation of the 2CV! BMW flat twin + Audi transaxle perhaps but I'm open to suggestions. I don't rule out a bit of re-engineering to get what I want.

Edited by dave de roxby on Saturday 23 April 17:15

stig mills

1,208 posts

206 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
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You could always stick one of these in

dave de roxby

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544 posts

195 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
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stig mills said:
You could always stick one of these in
Hey mate! What's that from? Looks interesting. Ah, I see it now!! The answer to my earlier question re the golf cart final drive!

Let me say thanks again. I know there must be some existing technology out there to suit my design aspirations. But it is difficult for one guy to be aware of it all. Thank goodness for the internet and helpful guys like you! Cheers Mate.

Edited by dave de roxby on Tuesday 26th April 09:34

Wonder what the performance parameters are? Is it petrol or diesel, by the way? I can see applications in a small commuter buggy ..??!!

Edited by dave de roxby on Tuesday 26th April 09:39

qdos

825 posts

210 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
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dave de roxby said:
Wonder what the performance parameters are? Is it petrol or diesel, by the way? I can see applications in a small commuter buggy ..??!!
Generally found in quadricycles I have one in the Zest which I import, they are petrol and put out 15kw (21 horse) this is the maximum power for heavy quadricycles in Europe but they could be tuned.

dave de roxby

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544 posts

195 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
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qdos said:
Generally found in quadricycles I have one in the Zest which I import, they are petrol and put out 15kw (21 horse) this is the maximum power for heavy quadricycles in Europe but they could be tuned.
Thanks Qdos!

21 hp in a micro vehicle is still very usable! Had a good look at your website and share many of your views.

Boy, you certainly dabble at both ends of the spectrum! Well done and good luck.

qdos

825 posts

210 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
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dave de roxby said:
Thanks Qdos!

21 hp in a micro vehicle is still very usable! Had a good look at your website and share many of your views.

Boy, you certainly dabble at both ends of the spectrum! Well done and good luck.
LOL yes we do and they are each great fun. Where you get the fun from is taking a car to it's limits and pushing it. So 20 horse power on the roads can give you such a buzz when you manage to actually overtake something with 5 times the power. Of course it's all legal too as you can barely break the speed limit. The other cars we tend to take out on the track for that kind of fun. Different kinds of cameras come into play there wink

dmulally

6,194 posts

180 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
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I built a cafe racer for a bike build off last year (competition to build the most with the least...lost to a 50k chrome plated everything Harley...awesome :-/ )

Anyway, I used a postie bike...or Honda CT110 engine. 7 horsepower and it zips around quite nicely. My old Hillman Imp was 35hp on the dyno and that zipped around so 20 horsepower on something light should be a scream.

Oh, and here is the postie bike.



dave de roxby

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544 posts

195 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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First Class!

fuoriserie

4,560 posts

269 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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A Three Wheeler Hot Rod....

http://www.knfilters.com/video/KN_NationalGuard.ht...

link to the site

http://www.rookecustoms.com/designs.html


Images of the three wheeler:
http://justacarguy.blogspot.com/2010/11/rooke-cust...

Edited by fuoriserie on Wednesday 27th April 12:11

fuoriserie

4,560 posts

269 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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A few pictures..










thescamper

920 posts

226 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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fuoriserie said:
A few pictures..

How the hell would you get that thro' MSVA.

dmulally

6,194 posts

180 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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thescamper said:
How the hell would you get that thro' MSVA.
Go to America I would imagine. Its like the set of mad max over there. smile

fuoriserie

4,560 posts

269 months

Thursday 28th April 2011
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thescamper said:
How the hell would you get that thro' MSVA.
I have no idea but would be nice to know if it would work...I guess the front end would need some smoothing and adding bodywork.

qdos

825 posts

210 months

Thursday 28th April 2011
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mud gaurds over the wheels and a bonnet and that should do it really. Lights need moving a bit