Three Wheelers - Your opinions and expertise wanted!

Three Wheelers - Your opinions and expertise wanted!

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fuoriserie

4,560 posts

270 months

Thursday 28th April 2011
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qdos said:
mud gaurds over the wheels and a bonnet and that should do it really. Lights need moving a bit
and ultimately these slight modifications could improve the looks of the front end...

stig mills

1,208 posts

207 months

Thursday 28th April 2011
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Not quite that easy Qdos but all doable I guess
qdos said:
mud gaurds over the wheels and a bonnet and that should do it really. Lights need moving a bit

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 29th April 2011
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The three wheeler that appealed to me many years ago was the Badsey Bullet.



Bit more about it here
http://www.badsey.com/html/badsey_bullet.html

fuoriserie

4,560 posts

270 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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guy_spyder550 said:
The three wheeler that appealed to me many years ago was the Badsey Bullet.



Bit more about it here
http://www.badsey.com/html/badsey_bullet.html
I agree with you and it still looks futuristic to this day and was inspiration for some of my old three wheeler design...smile

It would be nice to see a modern update of the same concept...cool, but this one looks close, or has a similar cockpit layout, the electric the Peugeot EX1, eventhough it has an extra wheel...
http://www.leblogauto.com/2010/09/peugeot-le-conce...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgNCJQ_dm9s&fea...

mikeveal

4,579 posts

251 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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Dave,
Have you looked at the French marque Secma? I think they are imported to the UK under the Qpod brand. The Fun Runner is almost a trike - with a full windscreen, heater and wipers. May give you some ideas.

dave de roxby

Original Poster:

544 posts

196 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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mikeveal said:
Dave,
Have you looked at the French marque Secma? I think they are imported to the UK under the Qpod brand. The Fun Runner is almost a trike - with a full windscreen, heater and wipers. May give you some ideas.
Ta Mike! All ideas gratefully received and will be chewed upon.

ceebmoj

1,898 posts

262 months

Thursday 5th May 2011
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qdos said:
Generally found in quadricycles I have one in the Zest which I import, they are petrol and put out 15kw (21 horse) this is the maximum power for heavy quadricycles in Europe but they could be tuned.
The Zest is very interesting, what sort of mpg does it get and how much do they cost?

qdos

825 posts

211 months

Thursday 5th May 2011
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ceebmoj said:
The Zest is very interesting, what sort of mpg does it get and how much do they cost?
about 60mpg on a run as with most things it depends on the traffic you are in really but it's a lot cheaper to run than a regular car on short journeys for sure. Sadly though they are not cheap as with most of the micro cars E 11,500 these days

dave de roxby

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544 posts

196 months

Thursday 5th May 2011
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qdos said:
about 60mpg on a run as with most things it depends on the traffic you are in really but it's a lot cheaper to run than a regular car on short journeys for sure. Sadly though they are not cheap as with most of the micro cars E 11,500 these days
Wonder what a batch would cost straight from Lombardi - engines + CVT that is??

qdos

825 posts

211 months

Thursday 5th May 2011
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dave de roxby said:
Wonder what a batch would cost straight from Lombardi - engines + CVT that is??
I can get some if you are genuinely interested in some. I'll have to find out the prices for the engines and gearboxes on their own if you want to use them. There's a photo of the set up in the Zest on the Qdos Cars website

ceebmoj

1,898 posts

262 months

Thursday 5th May 2011
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qdos said:
about 60mpg on a run as with most things it depends on the traffic you are in really but it's a lot cheaper to run than a regular car on short journeys for sure. Sadly though they are not cheap as with most of the micro cars E 11,500 these days
Shame about the price, I was ready to make an impulse purchase. I guess the price is a large reason why they have not taken off in larger numbers.

qdos

825 posts

211 months

Thursday 5th May 2011
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How much would be right for the impulse? We are considering building something else along similar lines.

fuoriserie

4,560 posts

270 months

Friday 6th May 2011
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dave de roxby said:
Wonder what a batch would cost straight from Lombardi - engines + CVT that is??
A few years ago I was involved in the design of a Quadricycle and the engines that were considered were the following:


For Quadricycle/Microcars engines you can only choose from these three major manufacturers that supply 90% of the market:

Lombardini
http://www.lombardinigroup.it/en_US/lombardini-pro...

Kubota:

http://www.kubota.fr/Kubota-in-the-world?lang=en

Yanmar

http://www.yanmaritaly.it/


I also know that Mitsubishi used to supply engines to Casalini, one of the Italian manufacturer of microcars.

dave de roxby

Original Poster:

544 posts

196 months

Friday 6th May 2011
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Thanks qdos and Italo. This is all of great interest. My house sale finally looks to be going through but I don't want to count my chickens just yet! But seems like I may have the finance I need quite soon. Everything on hold until then.

ceebmoj

1,898 posts

262 months

Friday 6th May 2011
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qdos said:
How much would be right for the impulse? We are considering building something else along similar lines.
To be completely honest, I don't know. For me something small, light, basic and 1 + 1 or 2 seats. Would be very interesting. I guess when I looked at the car I was thinking a new one would be around 5K with some asembely required. Having said that I have just looked at the price of a new cheap cars and I would say im just out of touch with new car prices.

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/grouptests...

I know that your product has much more caricter but if i'm looking form something cheap to make the commute / town driving barable it has to at least partly stack up against other small stuff.


fuoriserie

4,560 posts

270 months

Monday 16th May 2011
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The New Morgan Three Wheeler website with build photos of the prototype:

http://www.morgan3wheeler.co.uk/news.php?id=15

fuoriserie

4,560 posts

270 months

Monday 16th May 2011
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Some interesting pictures of the design, with a sketch and two cad images





Edited by fuoriserie on Monday 16th May 11:11

fuoriserie

4,560 posts

270 months

Monday 16th May 2011
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For those interested on the Liberty Ace Three wheeler( Morgan..) here are some very good images showing the build of the original vehicle and spot some of the differences with the new Morgan.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joncallas/page41/

Sam_68

9,939 posts

246 months

Monday 16th May 2011
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fuoriserie said:
Some interesting pictures of the design, with a sketch and two cad images
Twin rear rear dampers? Why?

And I don't think much to the wishbone mounting positions on the front dampers - big bending load on wishbone.

Meh... not exactly the last word in lightweight engineering purity, is it?

thescamper

920 posts

227 months

Monday 16th May 2011
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Sam_68 said:
Twin rear rear dampers? Why?
Probably because with a single rear damper the top mount would need to be much higher and would need the chassis adjacent to the roll bars significantly changing to provide a suitably braced mounting or the swing arm would need to be longer accomodate a single shock thus changing the wheelbase.

I suppose a single offset monoshock and spring could have been used but that would mean a stiffer swingarm design along with stiffer swingarm mounts to counter the twist. The twin shock solution keeps it relatively simple.