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Slow M

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2,737 posts

207 months

Friday 3rd November 2023
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ivanhoew said:
In case it helps Bernard , two other things i did to my car were ,i welded a tube connecting the ends nears the chassis on the front lower wishbones .this made the steering 176.485% lighter.
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regards
robert.
Do you have a photo of this mod? I can't picture it.

GAjon

3,737 posts

214 months

Friday 3rd November 2023
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This might be a consideration for you Bernard.

This is our Tuscan challenge chassis, in work.
The plates were solid, we’ve put the speed holes in to loose a bit of weight.


ivanhoew

978 posts

242 months

Friday 3rd November 2023
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Slow M said:
Do you have a photo of this mod? I can't picture it.
like so ....



Slow M

Original Poster:

2,737 posts

207 months

Friday 3rd November 2023
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GAjon said:
This might be a consideration for you Bernard.

This is our Tuscan challenge chassis, in work.
The plates were solid, we’ve put the speed holes in to loose a bit of weight.

I've been thinking about doing that in a few places, but as I don't currently have access to a hydraulic hole punch, as I once did, or a plasma cutter, or a cutting torch, the sheets would be heavier than I'd like. (No Swiss cheese)

I've also been considering taco gussets, for a few more challenging places.

GAjon

3,737 posts

214 months

Friday 3rd November 2023
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Plasma cutter! Hydraulic hole punch???

What’s up with a good old hole saw?

Taco gussets are tremendously strong, but watch out for corrosion hot spots on a road car.

Slow M

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2,737 posts

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Friday 3rd November 2023
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Slow M said:

Slow M

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2,737 posts

207 months

Friday 3rd November 2023
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ivanhoew said:
like so ....

AH! Thanks, will beef mine up in the same way. Do you remember roughly what gauge? I've been using 14ga 1", for the frame bracing pieces.

I had someone else do these for me, ages ago (before I had confidence in my own welds).

Slow M

Original Poster:

2,737 posts

207 months

Friday 3rd November 2023
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GAjon said:
Plasma cutter! Hydraulic hole punch???

What’s up with a good old hole saw?

Taco gussets are tremendously strong, but watch out for corrosion hot spots on a road car.
Caused by the hot sauce?

GAjon

3,737 posts

214 months

Friday 3rd November 2023
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Slow M said:
aused by the hot sauce?
Now we’re talking! I’m gonna be on the phone to the takeaway !

ivanhoew

978 posts

242 months

Saturday 4th November 2023
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Slow M said:
AH! Thanks, will beef mine up in the same way. Do you remember roughly what gauge?
i think it was quite thick , probably an old bit of roll cage or gas pipe !

this would have been done in 1995 ish .

i was very surprised at the instant super light stearing , and i realised , the way the wishbone is connected normally , under the shock absorber , means any weight on the shock will push the two halves of the wishbone down , twisting them at both the trunnion end and the chassis end .

this puts a side force on the trunnion and so creates friction .

Slow M

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2,737 posts

207 months

Tuesday 7th November 2023
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Dropped this baby off at its mama's house (Barnes Systems) this morning, as they're only 25 minutes from home. They'll evaluate it, perform any required maintenance/rebuild, or tell me it's trash. At first glance, the tech said it looked pretty good.

ivanhoew

978 posts

242 months

Tuesday 7th November 2023
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bet those aren't cheap new bernard .


why so many stages ?

Slow M

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2,737 posts

207 months

Wednesday 8th November 2023
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Scavenge - Two at the crankcase, one each head (spring oilers), one at the lifter valley.

I'm running timing gears, as opposed to a chain. Wonder how different the lubrication requirements are.

Slow M

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2,737 posts

207 months

Wednesday 8th November 2023
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Right side frame mods done.

GTRene

16,620 posts

225 months

Wednesday 8th November 2023
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love the wheels, just noticed fronts 5 bolts, rear 4 bolts.

Slow M

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2,737 posts

207 months

Wednesday 8th November 2023
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GTRene said:
love the wheels, just noticed fronts 5 bolts, rear 4 bolts.

Thanks Rene,

Fronts are per Mazda RX7 turbo.



Rears are per Nissan 240SX.


Edited by Slow M on Thursday 9th November 07:02

GTRene

16,620 posts

225 months

Wednesday 8th November 2023
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nice finds :-)
the spindles es well?

I mean sometimes it seem to be hard to find new original ones, although some people made a few sets new for TVR classics in Alu.
but if you can find ready to use from other cars, and upgraded the same time, and say plenty enough parts from those other brands to find, then thats a plus.

Slow M

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207 months

Thursday 9th November 2023
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The front spindles are machined from 1018 steel, with diameters to match the Mazda bearings, but with the taper to fit the Alford & Alder style upright as made by Triumph. The front hubs are factory Mazda Aluminum units, so are those finned Aluminum calipers and vented rotors.

Edited by Slow M on Thursday 9th November 18:07

Slow M

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2,737 posts

207 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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Moto

1,240 posts

254 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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With the ideas around adding in additional chassis tubes, what is your objective for doing this?

When I rebuilt my chassis I found both top rails had cracked behind the engine mounts. I believe this was due to the twisting torque of the engine, so I added a stay bar from the top rail to the bell housing to spread the load then inserted & welded smaller diameter tubes inside the top tubes to strengthen them.

I'd be interested to know peoples thoughts on how forces from hard cornering act on the chassis.

Moto