3000S - good thing or bad?

3000S - good thing or bad?

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WorGC

Original Poster:

336 posts

230 months

Monday 21st March 2005
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I've been offered a '78 3000S, which has been fully rebuilt. It was a prototype for the gent who owned TVR at the time (a Mr.Lilley?) Is this a car I can use or are they trouble? I know they only built about 250 of them so I'm worried about parts and maintenance.

taimar78

681 posts

263 months

Monday 21st March 2005
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Reliability is directly proportional to the quality of the car you buy and how well you maintain it or have it maintained. If you check the car out thoroughly(or have a specialist check it out for you), that is a start. These are usually very reliable cars. I've been driving older TVRs(Pre-90's) for almost 30 years and have found them to be pretty reliable cars overall.

WorGC

Original Poster:

336 posts

230 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2005
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Thanks for that - I'll fine-tooothed-comb the thing.

Rob Mk2a

30 posts

230 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2005
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I believe that Martin Lilley's original prototype was made in around 73/74. I used to own one of the two production prototypes which differs from the production models as access to the boot was via the parcel shelf. When I had it the wheels had been changed and it had been resprayed Blue from the original white.

At that time the car was tired but still quick,it was difficult to place accurately on the road due to the low seating position.

Who knows it may be the same car.

Rob

daftlad

3,324 posts

242 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2005
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Gareth,
Is it the one at HHC?
If so, its had a lot of refurbishment, and you get the benefits of buying from a dealer.

We've had a few 3000s over the years, and top down and screens off, they an excellent convertible.

Respectable performance and solid predictable handling.

I'm sure you would enjoy the ownership experience.

WorGC

Original Poster:

336 posts

230 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2005
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Aye, that's the one. Tony at HHC said the thing's been rebuilt so it's like new. Trouble is I've been gifted a 2.8V6 S1, which I thought was dead. It needs £100 spending on it to get it's MOT so it looks like I won't need to shell out. I'll see how it runs before I consider the 3000s.

Re the colour change - the HPi on it said it used to be black and white - but is now Bright Red. Hmmm....

Rob Mk2a

30 posts

230 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2005
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Ive had a look at the HHC site - its a different registration to mine. So it's probably the other prototype.

Rob

Terminator

2,421 posts

285 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2005
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Rob, your car was one of three very early cars, (pre-production) that were made without boots and were sold by TVR to a hire company in Lexham Mews, London SW1. In 1981, the blue car was owned by a guy who lived round the corner to me in Woodford Green, Essex. He had it resprayed from white and had different wheels, from what I recall.

The one that Hexham have was an even earlier car and you can clearly see the TR6 rear lamps, as opposed to the Lucas/Scimitar units that the production 3000Ss had. Nothing wrong with the car as far as I know and I do know that Tony wouldn't sell it if it wasn't genuine.

TVR must have re-registered it in 1978, hence the S suffix. I have a 3000S that is a March 1981 car (according to the logbook) although it was built in 1979, went to the USA, sat in the FBI compound for 18 months, then was shipped back to TVR.

daftlad

3,324 posts

242 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2005
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Sir,
I bow to your superior knowledge of dross.

Rob Mk2a

30 posts

230 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2005
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Whilst I'm not a mark specialist - didn't Martin Lilley's car have Aero screens and no weather equipment.

Rob

Terminator

2,421 posts

285 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2005
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John, TVR knowledge isn't dross, it's.... well, ok, dross if you like, but I didn't get to where I am today by learning nuffink

The car did originally have aero fly-screens but was later fitted with a cut-down Jensen Healey front screen and side-screens based on an early Mini side window frame. It never leaked water when it rained and it took three TVR employees two years to get it to consistantly leak, a feat sucessfully repeated on all production cars. I recall it being sold to a Harry Johnson in Warwickshire in the late 1970s/early 80s.

Going to lie down now before my neural net processor overloads

daftlad

3,324 posts

242 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2005
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Terminator said:
John, TVR knowledge isn't dross, it's.... well, ok, dross if you like, but I didn't get to where I am today by learning nuffink


Nuff said knowledgable one - Are you going to Zolder this year?

Terminator

2,421 posts

285 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2005
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daftlad said:

Are you going to Zolder this year?
What's at Zolder?

Terminator

2,421 posts

285 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2005
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(always answer a stupid question with another)

heightswitch

6,318 posts

251 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2005
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Terminator said:
Tony wouldn't sell it if it wasn't genuine



Here Here. I have just purchased a 500 griff from Tony at hexham and it is the first time I have ever enjoyed parting with 20K. TVR's sell themselves and the sales pitch and aftersales from Tony reflects that.

Neil.

Rob Mk2a

30 posts

230 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2005
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Don't get me wrong - I never questioned the car's providence or the integrity of HHC - I was only interested to see whether it was my old car. Thanks to Colin I have been corrected on it's history and it appears it was not a prototype but a pre production model.

Regards

Rob

heightswitch

6,318 posts

251 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2005
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Don't take it the wrong way Rob. No one was criticising.
I was merely vouching for Tony at HHC. tony is an enthusiast as well as a dealer.

thats the trouble with t'internet. it is all to easy to misinterperate.

best.
Neil.

krispy

500 posts

285 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2005
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Is it just me, or does the car look a little meaner with the TR6 rear lights......

Kris..

bugsy

1,371 posts

237 months

Saturday 26th March 2005
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I love the 3000S's I had a very early one that had gone back to the factory to have a boot fitted, got lost and finally got registered in 81, I believe it was the number 2 car.
The only trouble I had was the offset pedals with me being 6'3" and size 11 feet.

I was warned though that the screen frames rot and getting another Jensen Healey frame cut down would have been a nightmare and probably impossible

>> Edited by bugsy on Saturday 26th March 00:30

adrian@

4,314 posts

283 months

Saturday 26th March 2005
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Thats the trouble with t'internet. it is all too easy to misinterperate. (I was warned though that the screen frames rot and getting another Jensen Healey frame cut down would have been a nightmare and probably impossible AND just so the comment does not get set in stone!)
So the 7 screen frames that I made/supplied/fitted this last year dom't count then.
Adrian