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hobson

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102 posts

241 months

Wednesday 14th September 2005
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I really love that yellow one, looks like a new car. Out of my price range and.... I just couldn't live with the colour.

I'm very able to grease a few nipples , but much beyond that I need a mechanic. That's partly why the Alpine needs to go, there's only about 3 specialists in the south and most places won't touch it.

pamelahaswell

56 posts

227 months

Thursday 15th September 2005
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hobson said:

I really love that yellow one, looks like a new car. Out of my price range and.... I just couldn't live with the colour.

I'm very able to grease a few nipples , but much beyond that I need a mechanic. That's partly why the Alpine needs to go, there's only about 3 specialists in the south and most places won't touch it.



Hi Hobson

There is a white Vixen on TVRCC - £3.500 - says it drives but will need a little work to get it through MOT plus, it is a V6???
-Pam

daftlad

3,324 posts

242 months

Thursday 15th September 2005
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pamelahaswell said:

hobson said:

I really love that yellow one, looks like a new car. Out of my price range and.... I just couldn't live with the colour.

I'm very able to grease a few nipples , but much beyond that I need a mechanic. That's partly why the Alpine needs to go, there's only about 3 specialists in the south and most places won't touch it.



Hi Hobson

There is a white Vixen on TVRCC - £3.500 - says it drives but will need a little work to get it through MOT plus, it is a V6???
-Pam

Pam,
Its a Tuscan, not a Vixen, and without seeing it or knowing what the MOT work is, seems cheap.

bugattiqueen

111 posts

241 months

Thursday 15th September 2005
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Rotten chassis, converted vixen, rats been eating non original interior, exhaust blowing, glass sunroof. Apart from that !!!!!!

daftlad

3,324 posts

242 months

Thursday 15th September 2005
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bugattiqueen said:
Rotten chassis, converted vixen, rats been eating non original interior, exhaust blowing, glass sunroof. Apart from that !!!!!!

So its probably not cheap then............

pamelahaswell

56 posts

227 months

Thursday 15th September 2005
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daftlad said:

[quote=pamelahaswell]
Pam,
Its a Tuscan, not a Vixen, and without seeing it or knowing what the MOT work is, seems cheap.



Whoops - sorry, so it is! Basically same car/chassis though? Rare. I would think it would be worth doing - but at a price. Another 'interesting' car just went on Ebay for £3,000 - Vixen 2500 - not a runner! All these cars appearing looking for a good owner would be worth doing - if only I could do it myself!

hobson

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102 posts

241 months

Thursday 15th September 2005
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It's amazing what desire combined with lack of funds can do. I knew a guy when I wuz a lad who took a Lotus Elan S2 that had chickens living in it and turned in into a show winner. He did everthing himself, even the paint and he knew nothing about cars before.

The rider is, he definately had some latent talent and I seem to remember he was close to a nervous breakdown at one point.

pamelahaswell

56 posts

227 months

Thursday 15th September 2005
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pamelahaswell said:


Rare.



By 'rare' I mean 19 made in 1971. I remarked to son the other day that you never see a Tuscan from that era for sale. Hobson I have enough nervous breakdowns with DIY in house never mind cars. Have you looked at this website? http://members.tripod.com/nigel_warner/tvrhist.html

hobson

Original Poster:

102 posts

241 months

Thursday 15th September 2005
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Thanks for the link, sometimes I get confused with all the models, marks and revisions. And from what I hear, even then each car is unique in terms of parts.

pamelahaswell

56 posts

227 months

Thursday 15th September 2005
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I've several books, but confusing? - tell me about it. I've just decided you could do a Masters degree in early TVR's bearing in mind how the story complicates even more with 'exports!' The Tuscan and the Vixen were basically the same car, with the dimensions of the Tuscan V8 changing a bit, for export. I'm sure you know all this. My friend in US refers to his Vixen 2 as 'my Tuscan Vixen!'

pamelahaswell

56 posts

227 months

Thursday 15th September 2005
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daftlad said:

bugattiqueen said:
Rotten chassis, converted vixen, rats been eating non original interior, exhaust blowing, glass sunroof. Apart from that !!!!!!


So its probably not cheap then............


Whoops - sorry again, I didn't read that - not a great idea after all then!

heightswitch

6,318 posts

251 months

Thursday 15th September 2005
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Hello Pamela.

don't let some of the "I think I know it all" brigade put you down. from a builder of Vixens and griff replca racing cars, your info has thus far been more accurate than most on this topic.

I have had a long chat with a nice guy tonight and we have established that the car is probably a mid series 3 Vixen. It isn't a Tuscan, but that would be splitting hairs (101 produced as opposed to 168.)

The asking price for a S3 vixen in reasonable re-buildable condition with good body and an easily repairable chassis (minor outrigger rot) is not unreasonable for what it is, maybe a little on the high side.

As per my earlier mail though these cars rarely come up much cheaper and when they do they are far worse usually bodily due to crasing and impact damage.

Pamela have you a budget in mind for a car? IE Purchase and restore or buying a fully built car? It seems that this car could be repaired and ran or fully re-built depending upon how far or how much someone wanted to go.

if you are in the NW then you are surrounded by some VERY knowledgable TVR builders. (I am not talking about me here, far from it.)

Neil.

thegamekeeper

2,282 posts

283 months

Thursday 15th September 2005
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Neil, I hope you know me well enough by now to understand the following without thinking I am getting into the original/replica discussion because I am not. Pamela, and anyone else with a dream always remember it is not what you pay for it, it is what it costs you that is the real cost. If you can do the work yourself, from a value when finished point of view, you cant afford it. If you cant do the work yourself then from a value for money point of view you REALLY CANT AFFORD IT.
Its a bit like the Irish guy being asked the way to somewhere and him saying "if I was going there I wouldn't start from here". If you are going to build a Vixen it will cost a lot more to start with a butchered Vixen than one that is basiclly original. If you want a Tuscan then starting with a butchered Vixen will only ever result in a Tuscan made from a butchered Vixen. Which ever way you go then in real terms it will always cost more to do it than to let someone else do it and then buy it. Although Alans Vixen may not be the most original Vixen in the world it will not seem expensive at the end of the day compared to paying someone to restore a project for you. sTeVeR

pamelahaswell

56 posts

227 months

Thursday 15th September 2005
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thegamekeeper said:
Although Alans Vixen may not be the most original Vixen in the world it will not seem expensive at the end of the day compared to paying someone to restore a project for you. sTeVeR


To Neil - Ahhh, thank you for those kind words.
To sTeVeR - That had me giggling! Spadge said with total honesty to me that whatever he did to his Vixen it would still only be worth £....(I can't say, in fairness to Spadge, but less!) but that presumably plenty of people will go ahead; he knows a lady who is having a Vixen restored and the figure to date is also unmentionable here, since the lady might be reading this thread, and as yet she has no car. So, since Allan has now reduced his car to £8,700, it is looking like a good buy. I'm here to help Hobson, though. I've decided that since I have a bright yellow classic car with a hard top, I should hold out for a soft top, but had that Tuscan have been a genuine £3.500 Tuscan, I'd have looked long and hard, because you've already said chassis can be got, and let's face it, a V6 has to be tempting! I think the prices for these 70's cars have 'bottomed' now, and you have to look at a starting price of a couple of thousand pounds - for the log book - providing that the rats haven't eaten it!

heightswitch

6,318 posts

251 months

Friday 16th September 2005
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As usual Steve has wise words. there are 2 types of car people. Those that do and those that dream.
Alans car is excellent value for what it is and probably the best available at present. ( I am buying a new house Steve, and Lisa gave me that dont you dare look)

The Vixen S3 will cost of the order of £3000 plus rectification work to make it back to what it was. (Steve its an S3 with transplanted engine and all std apparently) If it had been a tuscan then it would have been mine tonight.

The guys that buy the baskets usually do the work themselves. Even in doing so the build cost will be higher than Alans car to do properly.

as it stands though as an S3 with good shell and a repairable chassis I don't think the guy is being unreasonable with his price.

If only we could get them for the price Bernie paid??

I think I have possibly pursuaded the owner to keep it anyhow.

Where are all the S1's

daftlad

3,324 posts

242 months

Friday 16th September 2005
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heightswitch said:

don't let some of the "I think I know it all" brigade put you down.

Sorry for having an opinion based upon experience and the facts as they were presented.

heightswitch

6,318 posts

251 months

Friday 16th September 2005
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Sorry John. Comments weren't aimed at you. I should amend to say "Dont let one "I think I know it all" person put you down Pamela."

Neil.

daftlad

3,324 posts

242 months

Friday 16th September 2005
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heightswitch said:
Sorry John. Comments weren't aimed at you. I should amend to say "Dont let one "I think I know it all" person put you down Pamela."

Neil.

Paranoid me ..............cheers Neil

hobson

Original Poster:

102 posts

241 months

Friday 16th September 2005
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You guys need to get out more.

pamelahaswell

56 posts

227 months

Friday 16th September 2005
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hobson said:

You guys need to get out more.


LOL But I'm glad you are back Hobson, because this is all to help you!! Have YOU come to a decision about a budget given that you've implied you couldn't do the work yourself?