Tuscan Challenge Road Car (at the moment) build project

Tuscan Challenge Road Car (at the moment) build project

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NTEL

5,051 posts

240 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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schimg said:
Dave,

Just looked at your profile...now that is a car to aspire to mate...and the right colourclap

Did you ever have a tamora in your family that colour?
Thanks for that Steve. The Tuscan is painted in Norfolk mustard (lotus yellow). The missus used to have a very nice halcyon Midas pearl Tamora.

schimg

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1,923 posts

253 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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NTEL said:
Thanks for that Steve. The Tuscan is painted in Norfolk mustard (lotus yellow). The missus used to have a very nice halcyon Midas pearl Tamora.
Norfolk mustard....good colour...from memory (which ain't brill!), is your good ladies name Dorothy?

We have met before ...can't think where though ...did you have a tuscan s?

Seen the chap who has the tamora it now a a couple of times recently....cracking trim job on that car...

NTEL

5,051 posts

240 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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schimg said:
Norfolk mustard....good colour...from memory (which ain't brill!), is your good ladies name Dorothy?

We have met before ...can't think where though ...did you have a tuscan s?

Seen the chap who has the tamora it now a a couple of times recently....cracking trim job on that car...
Yes Steve, we have met a few times. Last time was at Autosport in January smile

You are quite right, my missus is Dorothy although she will black your eye if you call her that hehe Its DOT! I do, indeed, have a spectraflair Tuscan 2 which doesn't really get out much these days.

Dot sold her car a coupling of years ago to a guy in Crewe. Ant I think his name is. It was a bloody great car that (hope it still is) Dot spent a fortune on the interior, engine bay, etc etc and it was the best sounding speed six on the planet after I had played with the exhaust a bit wink

Anyway, we will be at Oulton with #24 on Saturday, so swing by and have a chat.........

Dave

schimg

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1,923 posts

253 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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NTEL said:
Yes Steve, we have met a few times. Last time was at Autosport in January smile

You are quite right, my missus is Dorothy although she will black your eye if you call her that hehe Its DOT! I do, indeed, have a spectraflair Tuscan 2 which doesn't really get out much these days.

Dot sold her car a coupling of years ago to a guy in Crewe. Ant I think his name is. It was a bloody great car that (hope it still is) Dot spent a fortune on the interior, engine bay, etc etc and it was the best sounding speed six on the planet after I had played with the exhaust a bit wink

Anyway, we will be at Oulton with #24 on Saturday, so swing by and have a chat.........

Dave
Best not upset the ladies mate...that would not be good!
Ant sounds about right ..he loves the car and is very proud of it...quite right too..

Definatly say hello mate be rude not to should be good, I know my son George is looking forward to it!

Chuggaboom

1,152 posts

248 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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schimg said:
I will be up at Oulton Park for the race Saturday....are you going?
No, sorry....bit far for just watching. One day a TD perhaps though.

schimg

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Friday 12th October 2012
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Chuggaboom said:
No, sorry....bit far for just watching. One day a TD perhaps though.
Hi Grant,

Sent you an email e specification ....and the mini van!

schimg

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253 months

Tuesday 6th November 2012
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Quick update...took the wheels apart 44 bolts a go...that was fun...



After spending some time with a decent stripper ..I felt frustrated as I was getting nowhere...thought it was going to cost me....as I risked damaging these precious items...

Got them treated at a local wheel place, they came out grey all over..but more importantly with no drama's or underlying problems, (this was not anticipated as they came from a reliable source) but nice to see that following some sound advice.... I spent literally 1 hour on one of the rims with some autosol and some stuff I picked up from overseas..and they started to shine a bit...







Not sure on the centre colour yet....if I do the car Cadbury purple.(which is a sound TVR colour, plus Ginny likes it!...) ..might be nice to co-ordinate...or bright chrome / silver ...so that I can go any colour on the body?


Moving on I think I have sourced the 40 odd ball joint spacers...and will go for high quality Mcgills Ultra Quality rose joints ...

So will need new bolts...

Been advised that they are all UNF 3/8...best go for socket capheads...@ a minimium of 12/9 grade hi tensile?

I understand that the majority are 2.5 ins - 3.0 ins
Does anyone know the number I need and at what length?

I'd like to get a dry build on the wishbones before chrimbo.....yeah right!



Edited by schimg on Tuesday 6th November 21:32


Edited by schimg on Tuesday 6th November 21:37

schimg

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253 months

Tuesday 6th November 2012
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schimg said:
Thanks for the advice sounds like a piece of work...was hoping to get away without splitting them...but want to do it properly..........will have a look for the sockets....
Just looking back over this thread...thanks for the input..out of interest I had a couple of mates (one of which had a set of OZ split rims on his 400se) look at the wheels before I unbolted them...we were convinced they were two piece items!

I know you have seen my front hubs (Oulton). that's the next thing I will be looking at...need to take them apart and see what bearings and version I have...shame they are not a matching pair, even though they are the same flippin casting! ...plus they are "old style" bearings be a challenge to get them right! hey ho all good clean funbiggrin

Appreciate aany thoughts on the best way forward?

Steve

Edited by schimg on Tuesday 6th November 21:39

Graham

16,368 posts

284 months

Tuesday 6th November 2012
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I think I've got a list of all the suspension bolts, I had a few sets made up for my chassis ill have a look

wadsapple

3,346 posts

187 months

Tuesday 6th November 2012
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I can give you the part number for the bearings when i get home tomorow.Those wheels are going to look special.

schimg

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1,923 posts

253 months

Tuesday 6th November 2012
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Graham said:
I think I've got a list of all the suspension bolts, I had a few sets made up for my chassis ill have a look
Thanks G,

that would be handy thanks

Will be manning the tvrcc classic show stand from Thursday to Monday starting next week...but then will have a bit of free time to concentrate on this I'd like to start putting a few bits together after that ..what days are you doing...you know I will keep an eye on the car whilst you aren't there...

what did you tell me about creating the rear hubs...I have the "triangle" carriers...I understand they are Granada items..if I get them will that do the job?

Or do they need to be fettled, I have a grinding wheeel!



Graham

16,368 posts

284 months

Tuesday 6th November 2012
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I must get the Tuscan ready for the nec and chat about getting Jamie's taz there.

You need to grind the caliper mounts off the Granada hub carriers

If using Tuscan bells you need to put the hubs in a lathe and take them down a bit too

Graham

16,368 posts

284 months

Tuesday 6th November 2012
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I must get the Tuscan ready for the nec and chat about getting Jamie's taz there.

You need to grind the caliper mounts off the Granada hub carriers

If using Tuscan bells you need to put the hubs in a lathe and take them down a bit too

schimg

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Tuesday 6th November 2012
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wadsapple said:
I can give you the part number for the bearings when i get home tomorow.Those wheels are going to look special.
Thanks Perry,

Don't go out of your way mate, this will all take time but appreciated tho...Will do my best over the wheels (plus the rest)..don't want to make them too "bling" ...we know they need to be just right ...wrong timing but right choice in many ways..

.think "high silver" is the safe way...as I am stuck until I can source a decent "purple" that hits the "wow" factor spot..without being hard to repaint if the car needs front end repaints...it will be need to be used ...pointless otherwise..

schimg

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Tuesday 6th November 2012
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Graham said:
I must get the Tuscan ready for the nec and chat about getting Jamie's taz there.

You need to grind the caliper mounts off the Granada hub carriers

If using Tuscan bells you need to put the hubs in a lathe and take them down a bit too
Off Topic my Mundano has a tow bar...not sure where Jamie is or where his car is...I am in work from 07:30 Thursday on the set-up day ..leave at midday straight to the NEC for set-up...then it begins..but if you are stuck...things can move

Are you doing the curry Friday night?...there are 30 of us doing it...you'd be welcome sir!

So for starters...I need new grenada hub carriers?..makes sense because the rear hub housing appears to have mounting points....what normally goes on there?



Edited by schimg on Tuesday 6th November 22:44


Edited by schimg on Wednesday 7th November 07:56

Mr Tank

5,797 posts

275 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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schimg said:
Will be manning the tvrcc classic show stand from Thursday to Monday starting next week..what days are you doing...you know I will keep an eye on the car whilst you aren't there...
Graham

I will be there for all three days so I will also be happy to keep an eye on your car for you as it may be next to my SEAC!

Andy

schimg

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Tuesday 13th November 2012
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Started to clean up the front hubs on Sunday....both front bearings look A1, hard to check play when they are clamped in a vice though..but they just look "new"....

Both of the hub nuts have a yellow "insert"....IF I remember correctly my Chimaera hub nuts were coloured green and yellow? Assume that the hubs might be handed then?...which might mean that I have two nearside ...or off side?

Any clarification appreciated...



teamHOLDENracing

5,089 posts

267 months

Tuesday 13th November 2012
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Front hubs are handed, you should be able to tell if you have a pair by inspecting the thread to see if one is left handed and one right.

The front uprights are interchangeable, it is the hub flanges that are handed.

The hubs have been known to shear off. Not a nice failure as you lose your steering quickly followed by your brakes - and this type of failure caused the death of a spectator at Castle Combe some years ago when an errant wheel flew off and hit him in the chest. I had a similar failure in 2003 - but fortunately my wheel did not depart and I stopped without hitting anything.

If you don't know the history of the hubs (i.e. how many hours they have done since new or since last tested) then you should replace them or have them magnaflux crack tested. Which I'm afraid means stripping them and putting in new bearings when done. Sorry frown

wadsapple

3,346 posts

187 months

Tuesday 13th November 2012
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Hi Steve

I use TIS in Bristol to test my hubs Technical inspection services on 01275 871130 see this thread earlier in year..

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...


please change the bearings anyhow they are about £20 not worth taking the risk ,i will send you the part number i just got reminded by this post

schimg

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Wednesday 14th November 2012
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teamHOLDENracing said:
Front hubs are handed, you should be able to tell if you have a pair by inspecting the thread to see if one is left handed and one right.

The front uprights are interchangeable, it is the hub flanges that are handed.

The hubs have been known to shear off. Not a nice failure as you lose your steering quickly followed by your brakes - and this type of failure caused the death of a spectator at Castle Combe some years ago when an errant wheel flew off and hit him in the chest. I had a similar failure in 2003 - but fortunately my wheel did not depart and I stopped without hitting anything.

If you don't know the history of the hubs (i.e. how many hours they have done since new or since last tested) then you should replace them or have them magnaflux crack tested. Which I'm afraid means stripping them and putting in new bearings when done. Sorry frown
Hey not a problem...don't want to have an issue that wouldn't be good, I will be taking y son George in th car, so safety is first end of....just finding this a bit frustrating ...still no diff mounts or spacers for the rose joints ....I can't justify having a set made as costs would be silly....

Even though they appear to have had v.little / no use I will get the hubs apart and get them crack tested, a pita but couldn't live with myself if I didn't and something went wrong.


I will check "handedness" tonight I am sure the hub nuts shouldn't be the same colour...hope I havent got two from the same side...


Thanks for posting advice and thanks for the emails with info too, appreciated

Edited by schimg on Wednesday 14th November 06:24