The Official Korean GP thread (WITH SPOILERS)

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Vettel sets fastest 3rd sector of the race on the last lap.........

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Well the highlight of that race was Newey in ski goggles for the champagne

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Mojocvh said:

Sam Michael quite managerial over the suspension failure.....

Extremely defensive isn't he.

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Teppic said:

Yes, McLaren are totally useless because of a mechanical problem that they couldn't predict happening...

But inboard suspension is basic stuff. They can't predict it, but it should be a part of the car that just works letting them focus on set up.

They have such a fast car but they don't know how to use it properly. That's why they are useless.

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FloppyRaccoon said:

MGJohn said:

Mid-Late season school report ... 4/10 for Mercedes and Mclaren ... could do better ~ they have the kit, drivers, resources and brains but, must try harder.

Still, Lewis can tease the guy he will replace next season:~

"Today, I went backwards more places than yow" ..

I too was quite happy after watching Buttons start, he certainly had good pace in P2 so I think a solid result was on the cards. A bit of inexperience being shown by both Sauber drivers early on. Still rate both of them highly.

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Inexperience? That would be a debatable comment on Perez but Kobyashi has 55 or so races behind him. How many do you need to do to be called experienced?

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If anyones feeling flush. http://www.jameslist.com/cars/marussia/other/f1-ca...

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Engine and Gearbox because the Hydraulic system to use the original supplied gearbox is very complex and expensive however im sure if you went to Cosworth and Xtrac and waved the cheque book you could get a working engine and gearbox.

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It is strange how he has all of a sudden found the extra tenth or two of pace but its nice to see. Maybe he understands the tyres better now or something.

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MGJohn said:

hairyben said:

MGJohn said:

I am one of the exceptions ~ I'm pleased he's got a further extension to his eight years with Ferrari.

Am I the only one who believes his recent improvement in form is because in earlier races this season, did he have first call on the best bits, best car or upgrades... or did the No. 1 driver always have that?

Some enthusiasts believe that the two cars in a team are exactly the same .... simply not true. Rarely ever the case. Usually No 1 driver having first call on the best bits.

Anyone watching the grid walk by DC this past weekend would have noticed the differences he pointed out between Grosjean's and Raikkonen's cars.

With the fairest and best will in the world, it's almost impossible to have two exactly identical cars.

Are those "bits" really worth that much though? Maybe in the 60's a "new bit" cost a team a lot and they only had the one, but in the modern era any new bit they so much as think might give half a tenth will be airmailed in triplicate. Is my understanding at least.

And if they conspired to give massa a slightly lesser car... so he'd be unable to challenge the team leader... wouldn't that defeat the whole logic of having a superstar no.1 driver?

No conspiracy at all. Cleanse your mind of such irrelivant stuff. It only clouds the issue.

Over the past few seasons, unless I heard wrong, there were several reports where very last minute upgrades flown to the circuits were SINGLE items only!

Hence the "My wing is slower than your'n" mallarkey .. not just wings of course, lots of unseen stuff. ...

That's how I have always seen these things. If it doesn't fit in with Alonso is a Driving God and Massa is useless mindsets so prevalent on this website in recent years .... TOUGH!

FloppyRaccoon said:

There's got to be at least some truth in this. You can guarantee if there was only one new version of any particular part, Fernando would get it. With Ferrari in a rush to develop their cars, maybe they focused on just the one to begin with? Possibly it's only now things have started to balance out.

Nailed it!

You seriously think so?

Well let's wait and see what sort of queue forms for Massa's services in 2014..........

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MGJohn said:

Bedazzled said:

Massa's stats at Ferrari...



I think that tells us something. I hope his recent form may turn this around, he's a nice guy and it would be great to see him win a race or at least get a podium.

When did Alonso ( No. 1) arrive on the scene in that table?

Did I imagine the Alonso ... is ... faster ... than ... you business ?

Of course you didn't imagine it. Clearly Alonso is faster than Massa.

Basic 'logistics' (sic).........