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Ecclescakes has just described the BRDC, "As a gentleman's club, a bit short of gentlemen"
Who does he think he is? Why does he want £9 million?
Answer
£8 million for his bank account and another £1 million for Blaire.
Message to Ecclestone
"The BRDC is made up of real gentlemen; who care about sport and not ripping people off!"
Who does he think he is? Why does he want £9 million?
Answer
£8 million for his bank account and another £1 million for Blaire.
Message to Ecclestone
"The BRDC is made up of real gentlemen; who care about sport and not ripping people off!"
Why does he want 9 million.
Err, because that's the price he's set for the promotion rights to a GP. And, seeign as how every other GP promoter across the globe is willing to pay that, why should that price be any different for the BRDC?
James, it's basic business. If people elsewhere are prepared to pay the asking price, why drop it for one customer. He can definately get that amount from another country to hist a race. Why should he worry?
Err, because that's the price he's set for the promotion rights to a GP. And, seeign as how every other GP promoter across the globe is willing to pay that, why should that price be any different for the BRDC?
James, it's basic business. If people elsewhere are prepared to pay the asking price, why drop it for one customer. He can definately get that amount from another country to hist a race. Why should he worry?
I think the UK should collectively tell Bernie to go 
himself personally.
His greed has pretty much killed off F1 as a spectacle.
His version of F1 has nothing to do with the F1 we feel we know. Bernies vision of F1 is wrapped up in a world of politics, heads of state, and multi billion dollar construction projects in developing countries.
We still think of F1 as something with links to the past. We think of Surtees and Moss and Mansell and Hunt, driving bravely and living a life on the edge. We think of these boyhood heroes and their "fighter pilot " outlook on life.
Bernies F1 is nothing like that, and never will be again.
If F1 leaves the UK, so be it. Bernies vision of F1 is not something I will miss.
himself personally. His greed has pretty much killed off F1 as a spectacle.
His version of F1 has nothing to do with the F1 we feel we know. Bernies vision of F1 is wrapped up in a world of politics, heads of state, and multi billion dollar construction projects in developing countries.
We still think of F1 as something with links to the past. We think of Surtees and Moss and Mansell and Hunt, driving bravely and living a life on the edge. We think of these boyhood heroes and their "fighter pilot " outlook on life.
Bernies F1 is nothing like that, and never will be again.
If F1 leaves the UK, so be it. Bernies vision of F1 is not something I will miss.
As I have said before on here (and some other forums), a totally unrestricted formula (like Can Am of the mid to late 60s) is totally out of the question in this day and age. Technology has moved on immeasureably since 1966-70. There is no circuit in the world which could contain a car like that today - or no driver could restrain such a car either. Imagine a car with maximum dowmforce allowed, 2,000 bhp plus turbo engine? It would be a 350 mph wheeled missile.
Eric Mc said:
As I have said before on here (and some other forums), a totally unrestricted formula (like Can Am of the mid to late 60s) is totally out of the question in this day and age. Technology has moved on immeasureably since 1966-70. There is no circuit in the world which could contain a car like that today - or no driver could restrain such a car either. Imagine a car with maximum dowmforce allowed, 2,000 bhp plus turbo engine? It would be a 350 mph wheeled missile.
Errr, cool
Eric Mc said:
But there's nowhere on earth where such cars could run, apart from maybe Bonneville salt flats or Black Rock Desert, Nevada. Not particularly traditional F1 venues.
I've always fancied a limited fuel series. Anything goes, but you only have a limited quantity of fuel per race.
srider said:
But there's nowhere on earth where such cars could run, apart from maybe Bonneville salt flats or Black Rock Desert, Nevada. Not particularly traditional F1 venues.
I've always fancied a limited fuel series. Anything goes, but you only have a limited quantity of fuel per race.
Me too, but with differing fuel levels for different types of fuel - so aviation fuel would be handicapped against electric for example.
Apart from that, no rules.
Frik said:Can't see that happening myself, I think self-preservation would kick in first. The driver would be the limiting factor, not groves in teh tyres or some other rubbish. Everyone raves about Superbikes and how it is so much more exciting than F1 so ask yourself why...
Why not? If they have brakesa and a steering wheel let teh driver decide how fast to go...
I wonder what Jackie Stewart would have to say
So what would the benefit of unlimited technology bring to the "sport" if the technology could not be utilised?
My argument is that we have arrived at a point in race car technology where putting every piece of car design knowledge into a racing car results in a car that cannot utilise the technology. That was not the case back in the 60s - although even then the limits were becoming obvious.
Now we should be tailoring the cars to put on maximum "show" for the spectators, not maximum use of technology. If you want hi-tech stuff, watch a rocket launch.
My argument is that we have arrived at a point in race car technology where putting every piece of car design knowledge into a racing car results in a car that cannot utilise the technology. That was not the case back in the 60s - although even then the limits were becoming obvious.
Now we should be tailoring the cars to put on maximum "show" for the spectators, not maximum use of technology. If you want hi-tech stuff, watch a rocket launch.
Eric Mc said:Err Eric, think about it. It's like Scalextric, you can easily make your car fly off the circuit but you don't win do you! So the teams would design cars that stayed on the track and could win. Easy really. Rich...
So what would the benefit of unlimited technology bring to the "sport" if the technology could not be utilised?
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