RE: New operator for Mallory Park
Discussion
Look guys we should stop the Nimby nonsense once and for all this isn't the Daily Wail!
Lets celebrate that common sense has triumphed and that a decent operation appears to have taken on the operations.
Yes it has been there before the houses , that doesn't mean it can be a lousy neighbour and run illegal numbers and noise limits of events. Noise is an issue we all have to take responsibility for from operators and staff to competitors and participants and residents and councils.
You only have to look at threads on here about Network rail doing repairs to know what an issue it is and how operations need to be conducted sensibly and with empathy towards locals to realise none of us would want constant disturbance with no restrictions or curbs.
So PLEASE lets move on to more constructive debate like what type of events the New operation should run . Personally Id like to see the 1000 bikes back and a Goodwood style festival of vintage racing and demos (yes it will be loud!), rallies and rallycross, lots of bike trackdays and would love the idea of a Sunday service commemoration of the start of 2 litre F2 , there are loads of cars still around from that era.
Lets celebrate that common sense has triumphed and that a decent operation appears to have taken on the operations.
Yes it has been there before the houses , that doesn't mean it can be a lousy neighbour and run illegal numbers and noise limits of events. Noise is an issue we all have to take responsibility for from operators and staff to competitors and participants and residents and councils.
You only have to look at threads on here about Network rail doing repairs to know what an issue it is and how operations need to be conducted sensibly and with empathy towards locals to realise none of us would want constant disturbance with no restrictions or curbs.
So PLEASE lets move on to more constructive debate like what type of events the New operation should run . Personally Id like to see the 1000 bikes back and a Goodwood style festival of vintage racing and demos (yes it will be loud!), rallies and rallycross, lots of bike trackdays and would love the idea of a Sunday service commemoration of the start of 2 litre F2 , there are loads of cars still around from that era.
Hear hear; I wonder if the 'bloody nimby ' brigade would be quite so vociferous when presented with a nuisance in their own back yard ? Race circuits , like everybody else, have to operate within the law.And I do wonder how many of the moaners have ever been there-as whenever I go to Mallory the crowds are not huge .
Anyway..,.F2 historics would be great . I was there for the Dave Morgan win in '72(was it ?) and also hugely enjoyed watching F5000s and Aurora F1s race there. Over to you HSCC !
Anyway..,.F2 historics would be great . I was there for the Dave Morgan win in '72(was it ?) and also hugely enjoyed watching F5000s and Aurora F1s race there. Over to you HSCC !
Oh for vehicle access to the paddock during the day! Wonderful idea.TopOnePercent said:
CBR JGWRR said:
You are aware what happened was because Mallory Park was ignoring already established noise restrictions, not NIMBYs?
You are aware that Mallory was a race circuit before anyone bought a house near it?What makes Kirkby-Mallory unique, as far as I can tell, is that unlike everywhere else, as a village it embraced and enjoyed the circuit - within certain parameters that were clearly laid out in 1985 and - for ~30 years caused no trouble at all. Then BARC took over and, it seems, ruined it for everyone.
But of course, you already knew that, having read the previous threads on this subject, and the history of Mallory Park itself on their website; and clearly your apparent total ignorance of the situation is merely a momentary blip, a lapse of memory if you will.
smilo996 said:
Really glad to see nimbies foiled for the moment. Mallory is a scary track and deserves a future.
Scary? Only the last corner is scary, and only if you're taking it flat & you hit the bump.... then it's briefly very scary as you're in the air heading straight for the pointy end of the pit wall....Cadwell.... now that's a scary track....
TopOnePercent said:
CBR JGWRR said:
You are aware what happened was because Mallory Park was ignoring already established noise restrictions, not NIMBYs?
You are aware that Mallory was a race circuit before anyone bought a house near it?TopOnePercent said:
Munter said:
There's a village somewhere, that's missing someone by the seem of it.
Regrettably, kirby-Mallory seems to have more than one idiot in village. Say the rules are that anyone can make over x db of noise between 07:00 and 20:00. And you buy a house next to someone. They make x db of noise in the permitted hours. You're happy with the arrangement and know you'll get any input into changes to the noisy hours should any changes be requested (and you're prepared to be a bit flexible). Then they start continuing the noise to 21:00, then 22:00, then starting at 06:00, all without asking you. No "would you mind if we change the rules?" nothing, they just went ahead and breached the rules around noise.
You'd be happy would you?
TopOnePercent said:
AdeV said:
No, it wasn't. The village was there first.
FFS.Yes the village was there, but none of you f
king nimby asshats lived there then did you?!If you don't like the noise a motorsport racing circuit makes, don't f
king buy a house next to one you dumb fk.2) I don't live in Kirkby-Mallory.
3) I'm not a brain-dead moron who comes shouting the odds on a car-nut website without checking my facts first.
The "rules" of which you speak were instigated by whinging nimbys. You can't cite them as your defence while chanting "I'm not a nimby".
It comes down to only one issue - was there a motor racing circuit there before you bought your house? Yes, or no.
If it's yes, and it is, then you should have expected that the circuit would get busier and louder over time.
If it bothers you, then since the circuit was there first, and it can't be moved, then you move. What you don't do is try to destroy another part of the nations heritage so you can have a little more quiet.
Mallory Park circuit brings more enjoyment and quality of life to those that use it than it could ever do harm to those nimbys hell bent on closing it. It pre-dates you and its more important to the nation. Seriously, get over yourselves. * mod edit, as above *
It comes down to only one issue - was there a motor racing circuit there before you bought your house? Yes, or no.
If it's yes, and it is, then you should have expected that the circuit would get busier and louder over time.
If it bothers you, then since the circuit was there first, and it can't be moved, then you move. What you don't do is try to destroy another part of the nations heritage so you can have a little more quiet.
Mallory Park circuit brings more enjoyment and quality of life to those that use it than it could ever do harm to those nimbys hell bent on closing it. It pre-dates you and its more important to the nation. Seriously, get over yourselves. * mod edit, as above *
Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 5th December 12:47
AdeV said:
1) I race cars, and have raced many times at Mallory Park.
2) I don't live in Kirkby-Mallory.
3) I'm not a brain-dead moron who comes shouting the odds on a car-nut website without checking my facts first.
1 & 2 may or may not be true, but your posting history puts the lie to number 3.2) I don't live in Kirkby-Mallory.
3) I'm not a brain-dead moron who comes shouting the odds on a car-nut website without checking my facts first.
TopOnePercent said:
The "rules" of which you speak were instigated by whinging nimbys. You can't cite them as your defence while chanting "I'm not a nimby".
If the rules are there before you buy the house. Do keep up dear chap. You don't instigate them. They already exist.If the rules were not there, you would not buy the house. But they are and based on them being reasonable (and with no intention of changing them), you then buy the house.
If you can't grasp the difference, I wonder how you get through the day.
Munter said:
If the rules are there before you buy the house. Do keep up dear chap. You don't instigate them. They already exist.
If the rules were not there, you would not buy the house. But they are and based on them being reasonable (and with no intention of changing them), you then buy the house.
If you can't grasp the difference, I wonder how you get through the day.
Irrelevant. That's like saying "But Heathrow only had one runway when I bought this house!"If the rules were not there, you would not buy the house. But they are and based on them being reasonable (and with no intention of changing them), you then buy the house.
If you can't grasp the difference, I wonder how you get through the day.
Does the nurse help you dress in a morning?
TopOnePercent said:
Munter said:
If the rules are there before you buy the house. Do keep up dear chap. You don't instigate them. They already exist.
If the rules were not there, you would not buy the house. But they are and based on them being reasonable (and with no intention of changing them), you then buy the house.
If you can't grasp the difference, I wonder how you get through the day.
Irrelevant. That's like saying "But Heathrow only had one runway when I bought this house!"If the rules were not there, you would not buy the house. But they are and based on them being reasonable (and with no intention of changing them), you then buy the house.
If you can't grasp the difference, I wonder how you get through the day.
Does the nurse help you dress in a morning?
You still can't see the difference. I still wonder how you operate in society.
An unusual view of Mallory :-
Ford Anglia - RAC Rally 195?
Ford Anglia - RAC Rally 195?
Edited by threespires on Thursday 5th December 12:32
Munter said:
You think the runways were built illegally? Or did they go through the planning process? That's all that was needed here. For the circuit operator to use the planning process rather than ignore it and ask for forgiveness later. That's not how the law works.
You still can't see the difference. I still wonder how you operate in society.
The number of landings, hours of operation, weight of aircraft have all changed. It's called progress.You still can't see the difference. I still wonder how you operate in society.
Circuits, like airports, roads, and railways, will get busier and noisier as time goes by.
More people means more users means more noise.
Nimbys having an agreement made in the 80s cannot possibly expect that over 30 years later there should be no expansion. Based on population growth alone they should have expected 30% growth in circuit usage by now.
But wait, it gets better. In another 30 years, the population will have risen to 50% more than when the agreement was made, so you need to expect at least 150 days use per year. Plan appropriately.
Or do you expect to set Heathrow flight numbers back to what they were last time a runway was built? FFS.
Maybe we should reset the traffic on the A1 back to 80s levels because other nimbys may have bought on that basis?
Or, and I know its a radical idea, we could tell them to stfu or move?
Fantastic news!
I have very fond memories of MP having done 4 seasons in the XR Challenge from 2001 - 2004. I had a fair few podiums but my one and only victory was at Mallory and it was without doubt the best race I ever drove, I still remember going into that 1st corner, on the outside of the leader and thinking this is either going to go very well or very badly, fortunately he bottled it before I did!
I know the noise thing has been done to death on here but my 2p......if you don't like the sound of an engine, don't move near a fking race track!
I have very fond memories of MP having done 4 seasons in the XR Challenge from 2001 - 2004. I had a fair few podiums but my one and only victory was at Mallory and it was without doubt the best race I ever drove, I still remember going into that 1st corner, on the outside of the leader and thinking this is either going to go very well or very badly, fortunately he bottled it before I did!
I know the noise thing has been done to death on here but my 2p......if you don't like the sound of an engine, don't move near a f
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