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Smollet

10,602 posts

190 months

Monday 29th May 2023
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Dal3D said:
Well that was the first indy 500 we've watched start to finish. Think we now understand what all the fuss is about. The atmosphere must have been amazing trackside.
Plan to go next year if we can.
Well that’s guaranteed a no yellow/flag event. Has that ever happened?

Sandpit Steve

10,066 posts

74 months

Monday 29th May 2023
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Smollet said:
Well that’s guaranteed a no yellow/flag event. Has that ever happened?
The record is two cautions. The commentator cursed the race by mentioning that with 20 laps to go yesterday, it was on course to be the quickest race ever. Five minutes before the mayhem started!

LukeBrown66

4,479 posts

46 months

Monday 29th May 2023
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I gave up in the end, like I gave up watching NASCAR many years ago, trying to get a bunch of petulant little kids to race cleanly is almost impossibe as they all think they can win, and this is what happens, I simply got bored sorry.

Petrus1983

8,744 posts

162 months

Monday 29th May 2023
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I really enjoyed watching it last night - they were unbelievably lucky with the flying wheel though that could have so easily ended things differently.

paulguitar

23,463 posts

113 months

Monday 29th May 2023
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Petrus1983 said:
I really enjoyed watching it last night - they were unbelievably lucky with the flying wheel though that could have so easily ended things differently.
Yep, that was really worrying. Thankfully all it hit was a car.


Sandpit Steve

10,066 posts

74 months

Monday 29th May 2023
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Petrus1983 said:
I really enjoyed watching it last night - they were unbelievably lucky with the flying wheel though that could have so easily ended things differently.
That’s the sort of accident that causes technical rule changes, they need to take a good look at that car, to understand how the wheel departed at speed and wasn’t held by the tethers.

Looking back on it the morning after, it was a very lucky escape for Indy, the race could easily have been leading the news this morning for all the wrong reasons. That wheel was feet from going into the stand, with a potentially fatal outcome.

I guess that’s why they have the bishop read a prayer before the start, because someone was looking down on that track yesterday. Even that car doesn’t look too badly damaged, although some poor bugger is going to have to try and explain it to a rental or insurance company!

Petrus1983

8,744 posts

162 months

Monday 29th May 2023
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There's a video of the wheel flying -

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGJx8jtDD/

paulguitar

23,463 posts

113 months

Monday 29th May 2023
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Petrus1983 said:
There's a video of the wheel flying -

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGJx8jtDD/
They might have slightly overdone it with the dramatic music there. laugh

Petrus1983

8,744 posts

162 months

Monday 29th May 2023
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paulguitar said:
Petrus1983 said:
There's a video of the wheel flying -

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGJx8jtDD/
They might have slightly overdone it with the dramatic music there. laugh
I hadn't noticed and now it's all I focus on laugh

Driver101

14,376 posts

121 months

Monday 29th May 2023
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paulguitar said:
Petrus1983 said:
There's a video of the wheel flying -

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGJx8jtDD/
They might have slightly overdone it with the dramatic music there. laugh
Don't have the speakers up loud when pressing play. biglaugh

entropy

5,443 posts

203 months

Monday 29th May 2023
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Sandpit Steve said:
That’s the sort of accident that causes technical rule changes, they need to take a good look at that car, to understand how the wheel departed at speed and wasn’t held by the tethers.
Wheel tethers aren't indestructable. These cars are racing on superspeedways at 225-240mph.

I'm in two minds. The finish was on the knuckle and Indy dodged a bullet this year. The final red flag should a have been called earlier and race control seemed a bit unsure of themselves and correct me if I'm wrong but Ferrucci's penalty seemed to be made up on the spot so as not to ruin the show if Santino won.

markbigears

2,272 posts

269 months

Tuesday 30th May 2023
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The wheel ended up hitting a car … they found the owner and invited her in to the pit lane. Cracking race.

Muzzer79

10,011 posts

187 months

Tuesday 30th May 2023
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LukeBrown66 said:
I gave up in the end, like I gave up watching NASCAR many years ago, trying to get a bunch of petulant little kids to race cleanly is almost impossibe as they all think they can win, and this is what happens, I simply got bored sorry.
It does seem like some of the drivers (not looking at anyone in particular......O'Ward) make it their objective to try and win the race whatever the consequences, rather than thinking about championship. It's as if this one race is the equal in status of the Indycar title itself. Something is wrong if that is the case.

But I don't subscribe to it being boring. It was dramatic, if nothing else and the alternative is a load of drivers thinking they can't win and subsequently not trying or a processional finish. I know what I'd prefer.

FourWheelDrift

88,542 posts

284 months

Tuesday 30th May 2023
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Muzzer79 said:
It's as if this one race is the equal in status of the Indycar title itself. Something is wrong if that is the case.
It has always been, people remember the Indy 500 winner more than the champion for the year.

500TORQUES

4,498 posts

15 months

Tuesday 30th May 2023
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FourWheelDrift said:
Muzzer79 said:
It's as if this one race is the equal in status of the Indycar title itself. Something is wrong if that is the case.
It has always been, people remember the Indy 500 winner more than the champion for the year.
Indeed, the indy 500 win is far more valuable to a driver than the championship. Always has been.

It's like winning Le Mans, far more valuable than winning the WEC.

mat205125

17,790 posts

213 months

Tuesday 30th May 2023
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500TORQUES said:
FourWheelDrift said:
Muzzer79 said:
It's as if this one race is the equal in status of the Indycar title itself. Something is wrong if that is the case.
It has always been, people remember the Indy 500 winner more than the champion for the year.
Indeed, the indy 500 win is far more valuable to a driver than the championship. Always has been.

It's like winning Le Mans, far more valuable than winning the WEC
Perfect comparison.

Same as winning Bathurst is more valuable on a CV than the Aussie championships



mat205125

17,790 posts

213 months

Tuesday 30th May 2023
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paulguitar said:
Yep, that was really worrying. Thankfully all it hit was a car.

Looks like it ended up mounted on that car, given how slick that front left is wink

FourWheelDrift

88,542 posts

284 months

Tuesday 30th May 2023
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Honda smashes Chevrolet at Indy.

entropy

5,443 posts

203 months

Tuesday 30th May 2023
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Muzzer79 said:
But I don't subscribe to it being boring. It was dramatic, if nothing else and the alternative is a load of drivers thinking they can't win and subsequently not trying or a processional finish. I know what I'd prefer.
Even esteemed journalist Marshall Pruett said the first half was boring! Nothing much happened. It's about setting themselves up for the last 50 laps and nuances like sorting out the handling, aero, pit strategy.

Similar happens at Bathurst 1000. First half can seemingly be boring till caution breed cautions, rain and so forth.

MissChief

7,112 posts

168 months

Tuesday 30th May 2023
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500TORQUES said:
FourWheelDrift said:
Muzzer79 said:
It's as if this one race is the equal in status of the Indycar title itself. Something is wrong if that is the case.
It has always been, people remember the Indy 500 winner more than the champion for the year.
Indeed, the indy 500 win is far more valuable to a driver than the championship. Always has been.

It's like winning Le Mans, far more valuable than winning the WEC.
The 500 was worth double points up until this season so winning it could make your championship challenge as it did for Ericsson last season and ruined others as well. This season it was just normal points, as shown by O'Ward still being in the fight. If he'd taken third or fourth he'd likely be leading.