VNUK insurance nonsense

VNUK insurance nonsense

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stevieturbo

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17,263 posts

247 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
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I know there are other threads, but couldnt find one in this section, and although probably pointless anyway, it does need to get to as wide an audience as possible.

I suppose this should be updated of the MSA trying to do something

http://www.the-mia.com/Vnuk-Update

dhutch

14,388 posts

197 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
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Yes indeed.

Deadline is the 20th Oct.


Daniel

Edited by dhutch on Sunday 15th October 16:12

dig123

339 posts

116 months

Saturday 14th October 2017
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I believe the MSA have emailed all members asking them to respond, and we all should. Having just completed the questionnaire it will impact on motor sport and I believe over the top.

carl_w

9,181 posts

258 months

Sunday 15th October 2017
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dig123 said:
I believe the MSA have emailed all members asking them to respond, and we all should. Having just completed the questionnaire it will impact on motor sport and I believe over the top.
So have I but the MSA tells you to follow the MIA guidance, but the guidance is for companies so you need to fill in the "as an individual" part and answer the right questions accordingly. It's simple, but you can't just follow the MIA guidance (unless you do operate a motor-related company).

stevieturbo

Original Poster:

17,263 posts

247 months

Sunday 15th October 2017
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carl_w said:
So have I but the MSA tells you to follow the MIA guidance, but the guidance is for companies so you need to fill in the "as an individual" part and answer the right questions accordingly. It's simple, but you can't just follow the MIA guidance (unless you do operate a motor-related company).
They maybe want everyone to fill in as a business....because maybe the fktards in the EU might listen to the destruction of lots of businesses...before the annoyance of lots of private individuals.

Although we all know anyone involved with insurance at any level listen to no sense or give a fk about the general public...nevermind car enthusiasts or motorsport.

confucuis

1,303 posts

124 months

Sunday 15th October 2017
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Looking in from the outside, should this not really effect the UK because of Brexit? We're probably fked over here in Ireland cause well the powers at be view us as pariahs!

carl_w

9,181 posts

258 months

Sunday 15th October 2017
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confucuis said:
Looking in from the outside, should this not really effect the UK because of Brexit?
Except UK Govt says that on day 1 they'll copy and paste EU laws into the UK constitution, then worry about which ones need repealing later. Can't see this one being high up on their list.

OTOH, surely some of this is bluster from the MIA? Are the EU really going to effectively ban all motorsport including F1 and Le Mans? I realize that this is an unintended consequence of the new law but surely they see that something needs to be done?

stevieturbo

Original Poster:

17,263 posts

247 months

Sunday 15th October 2017
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carl_w said:
Except UK Govt says that on day 1 they'll copy and paste EU laws into the UK constitution, then worry about which ones need repealing later. Can't see this one being high up on their list.

OTOH, surely some of this is bluster from the MIA? Are the EU really going to effectively ban all motorsport including F1 and Le Mans? I realize that this is an unintended consequence of the new law but surely they see that something needs to be done?
F1 and LeMans may be able to self insure, if there is enough money backing them...depends what sort of level /value of risk is assigned to it all. If that's even possible.

But it goes far beyond motorsport, the ruling effectively applies to any motorised vehicle, even lawnmowers etc !

Erich Stahler

2,878 posts

270 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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carl_w said:
confucuis said:
Looking in from the outside, should this not really effect the UK because of Brexit?
Except UK Govt says that on day 1 they'll copy and paste EU laws into the UK constitution, then worry about which ones need repealing later. Can't see this one being high up on their list.

OTOH, surely some of this is bluster from the MIA? Are the EU really going to effectively ban all motorsport including F1 and Le Mans? I realize that this is an unintended consequence of the new law but surely they see that something needs to be done?
Carl_w, that is a very good point, so it definitely is important people respond to this consultation before we all sleep walk into a disaster.

rev-erend

21,415 posts

284 months

Tuesday 17th October 2017
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I followed the MSA guidance .. and mentioned loads of loss of jobs etc .. in UK and Europe.

ill informed idiots.

Another good reason to be leaving the EU, shame really as at its core it was kind of a good idea.

RegMolehusband

3,960 posts

257 months

Sunday 21st February 2021
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We’ve scrapped it. This was one of the tipping points for me when voting leave.

dhutch

14,388 posts

197 months

Sunday 21st February 2021
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Technically only proposed to scrap it, as yet.

I'd still rather be in than out.

Graham

16,368 posts

284 months

Monday 15th March 2021
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The only issue i can see is now when we do scrap it, if the EU dont have some sort of exemption for motorsport. it will kill uk club racing in europe so no more spa.. on the plus side sending my car to the USA for a year and flying over to do a few races is looking cheaper than europe will be!!!