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avenger286 said:
Good luck tomorrow. Mate who has an MK1 Escort that I work on is up there today.
Thanks. Jack's co-driver was navigating in a Mk1 Escort - they finished as quickest 2 wheel drive on the Saturday.Our first weekend now done and dusted. A quick run down: -
13 Juniors had entered. 8 have done a couple of seasons already. of the remaining 5 classed as rookies, 2 had completed a rally or 2 last season. 3 completely new including Jack.
He was seeded 9th which surprised us a bit. car behind him was faster with a driver that had experience. Not sure how that happened. The Lad seeded 12th had to withdraw. Licence issues.
Results wise, he was running 11th after the first couple of stages but pulled it back to 10th after stage 4. Finished 9th with the help of a retirement. So no great surprises. He knew he wasn't going out to win anything or be the fastest, but inwardly he was still a little disappointed with his times. Lots of encouragement from all around that he was doing well for his first time out and making steady progress as the day went on.
Really pleased the car made it through the day unscathed (other than the scrapes of a hay bale all down one side, but nothing bent or broken
). We did have a bit of an issue the end of stage 6. Just before the end, there was a small jump - he landed well, but hard. 100 yards later, at the finish line the car stopped. Electrics completely dead. A push back to the service area cut into our 20 minutes before the next stage. I was checking battery connections, fuses, relays but not really getting anywhere when two guys from another team came running over and helped find a dodgy connection. car then started but wouldn't stay running. another couple of minutes and they had that sorted - so a big thanks to them (Team JMR), We couldn't have finished the day without them.Big thanks also to his navigator - keeping us right all the way from scrutineering til the end of the day.
Costs - £40 championship entry fee and around £20 fuel for the car and £40 travel / food.
Sounds like a good day and result and I am sure you both learned a thing or two during the day.
THE Escort was 8th oa till the last stage when the diff went so got that to sort this week.
I was seeded 151on my first rally and ended up 67th oa and was pleased with that but looks like another year without Mull again this year so no rallying for me this year I doubt. As long as I get my new car logbooked this year before all the changes hit I will be happy.
Keep up with all the updates.
THE Escort was 8th oa till the last stage when the diff went so got that to sort this week.
I was seeded 151on my first rally and ended up 67th oa and was pleased with that but looks like another year without Mull again this year so no rallying for me this year I doubt. As long as I get my new car logbooked this year before all the changes hit I will be happy.
Keep up with all the updates.
Now booked up for his second rally at Kames (regs if anyone is interested - http://www.eastayrshirecc.co.uk/rallies )
He has uploaded a couple of the stages from Ingliston - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLSr-wKGL0c
Really need to find a better location for the camera!
Costs so far:
Event/Competition Fees - £495.00
Championship Entry Fee £40.00
Ingliston Rally £250.00 + £20 fuel for Micra, £40 Travel/Food
Kames Rally £145 plus travel
Equipment - £3955.00
Car £2000
New Seats/Harnesses (£700 less £240 selling old ones) £460
Steering Wheel £60
Trailer £900
Re-new trailer bed £300 (4 x 18mm marine ply and 5L non slip paint)
Tie down straps £45
Intercom System for car £160
Foot Pump + Gauge £30
Repairs/Maintenance - £645.00
Competition Tyres x 6 £520
Driveshafts £100
Drivebelts £25
Clothing / Safety - £950.00
Racesuit, Gloves, Boots, Balaclave
Helmet (with Added Comms)
HANS device
Helmet Bag with Hans Storage £40
Training - £890.00
£135 - Rally day at Knockhill (27th Jan)
£85 Test day at car club, 30th Dec, (Travel £30, Fuel for car £20 & £35 fee)
£15 - Autotest 20th Jan
£85 Test day at car club, 28th Jan, (Travel £30, Fuel for car £20 & £35 fee)
£180 - 1 to 1 training at Knockhill (£165 training, £15 Travel)
£65 Test day (£30 travel, £35 fee)
£325 - BARS test
Miscellaneous - £550.00
Towbar £400
Numberplate £10
Car Club Membership £30 (for us both)
New tyre for trailer £65
MSA Logbook £45
TOTAL £7485
He has uploaded a couple of the stages from Ingliston - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLSr-wKGL0c
Really need to find a better location for the camera!
Costs so far:
Event/Competition Fees - £495.00
Championship Entry Fee £40.00
Ingliston Rally £250.00 + £20 fuel for Micra, £40 Travel/Food
Kames Rally £145 plus travel
Equipment - £3955.00
Car £2000
New Seats/Harnesses (£700 less £240 selling old ones) £460
Steering Wheel £60
Trailer £900
Re-new trailer bed £300 (4 x 18mm marine ply and 5L non slip paint)
Tie down straps £45
Intercom System for car £160
Foot Pump + Gauge £30
Repairs/Maintenance - £645.00
Competition Tyres x 6 £520
Driveshafts £100
Drivebelts £25
Clothing / Safety - £950.00
Racesuit, Gloves, Boots, Balaclave
Helmet (with Added Comms)
HANS device
Helmet Bag with Hans Storage £40
Training - £890.00
£135 - Rally day at Knockhill (27th Jan)
£85 Test day at car club, 30th Dec, (Travel £30, Fuel for car £20 & £35 fee)
£15 - Autotest 20th Jan
£85 Test day at car club, 28th Jan, (Travel £30, Fuel for car £20 & £35 fee)
£180 - 1 to 1 training at Knockhill (£165 training, £15 Travel)
£65 Test day (£30 travel, £35 fee)
£325 - BARS test
Miscellaneous - £550.00
Towbar £400
Numberplate £10
Car Club Membership £30 (for us both)
New tyre for trailer £65
MSA Logbook £45
TOTAL £7485
Another Autotest done for some seat time before the Kames rally next weekend. Cost wise, £15 fee and £20 travel.
He has uploaded a couple of quick videos of the Autotest. Great fun for £15. Would recommend for any junior wanting to get involved in Motorsport.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q0PoRbeiloM
He has uploaded a couple of quick videos of the Autotest. Great fun for £15. Would recommend for any junior wanting to get involved in Motorsport.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q0PoRbeiloM
Highs and lows yesterday for round 2 of the Junior Ecosse Challenge.
Seeded 11th with 14 starters. 16 stages.
By stage 12 he had battled up to 5th place (helped with a couple of broken driveshafts from the faster, more experienced lads).
At the end of stage 13, the car was visibly slower and had a distinctive bottom end knock.
Got the car back in the queue for stage 14 while debating if it should actually go back out (he desperately wanted to finish the day). Sort of thinking he could back off a bit on the final stages and nurse it home for a finish, the car cut out a couple of times while waiting and then refused to even turn over!
A disappointing end to an exciting day. Lots of positives to take away though.
Seeded 11th with 14 starters. 16 stages.
By stage 12 he had battled up to 5th place (helped with a couple of broken driveshafts from the faster, more experienced lads).
At the end of stage 13, the car was visibly slower and had a distinctive bottom end knock.
Got the car back in the queue for stage 14 while debating if it should actually go back out (he desperately wanted to finish the day). Sort of thinking he could back off a bit on the final stages and nurse it home for a finish, the car cut out a couple of times while waiting and then refused to even turn over!
A disappointing end to an exciting day. Lots of positives to take away though.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=spzE9ls7mvk
Some new video uploaded. Quite short.
This was the stage before the engine failed.
Some new video uploaded. Quite short.
This was the stage before the engine failed.
I don't really know enough about what I'm doing to teach him to re-build an engine!
Maybe time for us both to learn.
Got it started when back in storage and this is what it's sounding like. Also spitting oil out the exhaust.
https://vimeo.com/266157071
Maybe time for us both to learn.
Got it started when back in storage and this is what it's sounding like. Also spitting oil out the exhaust.
https://vimeo.com/266157071
It's been a hectic few weeks since the last update, and quite a hit on the budget!
It's a steep learning curve for both Jack driving and me in service.
At Leuchars, early in the day the exhaust got caught on a kerb on the way to start stage 2. Due to other problems out on the stage we had a 15 minute 'emergency' service to patch him up and get him back out. Thanks to a loan of a grinder from another team, we managed to chop the mangled exhaust up and at least re-fit the back box under the middle of the car! At least he finished the day after the disappointment of Kames
Crail passed relatively incident free with another finish.
We have a bit of a break now until the next rally at Solway but a busy month none the less. Test night this week with a training day at the weekend and a further 1 to 1 training day the following weekend.
I've splurged a bit on some new tools too, learning as I go what we need in Service.
Bought a new High Lift, low entry Jack £260. A battery powered grinder £70 for the bare unit. (i have batteries already) and a whole selection of sundries including Jubilee clips of all sizes, a selection box of Tek screws, some cutting discs, gloves etc..
Costs so far:
Event/Competition Fees - £1110.00
Championship Entry Fee £40.00
Ingliston Rally £250.00 + £20 fuel for Micra, £40 Travel/Food
Kames Rally £145 plus £30 travel
Leuchars Rally £225.00 plus £60 travel/food and £20 fuel for the car
Crail Rally £200 plus £60 travel and another £20 petrol in the car
Next stop Solway
Equipment - £4285.00
Car £2000
New Seats/Harnesses (£700 less £240 selling old ones) £460
Steering Wheel £60
Trailer £900
Re-new trailer bed £300 (4 x 18mm marine ply and 5L non slip paint)
Tie down straps £45
Intercom System for car £160
Foot Pump + Gauge £30
Hi-lift Jack £260
Grinder £70
Repairs/Maintenance - £1620.00
Competition Tyres x 6 £520
Driveshafts £100
Drivebelts £25
Replacement engine and fitting £350
New custom stainless exhaust £450
2 new tyres £175
Clothing / Safety - £950.00
Racesuit, Gloves, Boots, Balaclave
Helmet (with Added Comms)
HANS device
Helmet Bag with Hans Storage £40
Training - £890.00
£135 - Rally day at Knockhill (27th Jan)
£85 Test day at car club, 30th Dec, (Travel £30, Fuel for car £20 & £35 fee)
£15 - Autotest 20th Jan
£85 Test day at car club, 28th Jan, (Travel £30, Fuel for car £20 & £35 fee)
£180 - 1 to 1 training at Knockhill (£165 training, £15 Travel)
£65 Test day (£30 travel, £35 fee)
£325 - BARS test
Miscellaneous - £600.00
Towbar £400
Numberplate £10
Car Club Membership £30 (for us both)
New tyre for trailer £65
MSA Logbook £45
Screws, clips, cutting discs £50
TOTAL £9455
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4 events down and 4 still to go. Looks like we will be bursting through the original budget!
You can follow his progress on his page https://www.facebook.com/JackHallMotorsport/
Support and encouragement welcomed.
It's a steep learning curve for both Jack driving and me in service.
At Leuchars, early in the day the exhaust got caught on a kerb on the way to start stage 2. Due to other problems out on the stage we had a 15 minute 'emergency' service to patch him up and get him back out. Thanks to a loan of a grinder from another team, we managed to chop the mangled exhaust up and at least re-fit the back box under the middle of the car! At least he finished the day after the disappointment of Kames
Crail passed relatively incident free with another finish.
We have a bit of a break now until the next rally at Solway but a busy month none the less. Test night this week with a training day at the weekend and a further 1 to 1 training day the following weekend.
I've splurged a bit on some new tools too, learning as I go what we need in Service.
Bought a new High Lift, low entry Jack £260. A battery powered grinder £70 for the bare unit. (i have batteries already) and a whole selection of sundries including Jubilee clips of all sizes, a selection box of Tek screws, some cutting discs, gloves etc..
Costs so far:
Event/Competition Fees - £1110.00
Championship Entry Fee £40.00
Ingliston Rally £250.00 + £20 fuel for Micra, £40 Travel/Food
Kames Rally £145 plus £30 travel
Leuchars Rally £225.00 plus £60 travel/food and £20 fuel for the car
Crail Rally £200 plus £60 travel and another £20 petrol in the car
Next stop Solway
Equipment - £4285.00
Car £2000
New Seats/Harnesses (£700 less £240 selling old ones) £460
Steering Wheel £60
Trailer £900
Re-new trailer bed £300 (4 x 18mm marine ply and 5L non slip paint)
Tie down straps £45
Intercom System for car £160
Foot Pump + Gauge £30
Hi-lift Jack £260
Grinder £70
Repairs/Maintenance - £1620.00
Competition Tyres x 6 £520
Driveshafts £100
Drivebelts £25
Replacement engine and fitting £350
New custom stainless exhaust £450
2 new tyres £175
Clothing / Safety - £950.00
Racesuit, Gloves, Boots, Balaclave
Helmet (with Added Comms)
HANS device
Helmet Bag with Hans Storage £40
Training - £890.00
£135 - Rally day at Knockhill (27th Jan)
£85 Test day at car club, 30th Dec, (Travel £30, Fuel for car £20 & £35 fee)
£15 - Autotest 20th Jan
£85 Test day at car club, 28th Jan, (Travel £30, Fuel for car £20 & £35 fee)
£180 - 1 to 1 training at Knockhill (£165 training, £15 Travel)
£65 Test day (£30 travel, £35 fee)
£325 - BARS test
Miscellaneous - £600.00
Towbar £400
Numberplate £10
Car Club Membership £30 (for us both)
New tyre for trailer £65
MSA Logbook £45
Screws, clips, cutting discs £50
TOTAL £9455
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4 events down and 4 still to go. Looks like we will be bursting through the original budget!
You can follow his progress on his page https://www.facebook.com/JackHallMotorsport/
Support and encouragement welcomed.
Thanks.
We smashed through the projected budget and I eventually stopped counting. Lol.
But I now have a proper selection of service tools and a fighting chance wiyh knowledge gained to keep him running.
We built a Yaris rally car over the winter (build thread to come) and actually today just sold the Micra.
Two events into this season already. 4th place in the Scottish championship at Ingliston and he was running 4th at RM Condor last week when the Diff exploded and put a few holes invthe Gearbox!
Its been a fantastic journey and i would urge anyone to give it a go. It can be done much cheaper than i have done it.
We smashed through the projected budget and I eventually stopped counting. Lol.
But I now have a proper selection of service tools and a fighting chance wiyh knowledge gained to keep him running.
We built a Yaris rally car over the winter (build thread to come) and actually today just sold the Micra.
Two events into this season already. 4th place in the Scottish championship at Ingliston and he was running 4th at RM Condor last week when the Diff exploded and put a few holes invthe Gearbox!
Its been a fantastic journey and i would urge anyone to give it a go. It can be done much cheaper than i have done it.
JZZ30 said:
Pleased to report the BARS test was passed and he now holds a junior MSA Licence.
A nice little confidence boost in the afternoon Autotest too. He got 3 trophies. Fastest in section 1, fastest in section 2/3 and fastest junior time of the day!
Costs so far:
Good work, dipped out but enjoying following this.A nice little confidence boost in the afternoon Autotest too. He got 3 trophies. Fastest in section 1, fastest in section 2/3 and fastest junior time of the day!
Costs so far:
JZZ30 said:
Thanks.
We smashed through the projected budget and I eventually stopped counting. Lol.
But I now have a proper selection of service tools and a fighting chance wiyh knowledge gained to keep him running.
We built a Yaris rally car over the winter (build thread to come) and actually today just sold the Micra.
Two events into this season already. 4th place in the Scottish championship at Ingliston and he was running 4th at RM Condor last week when the Diff exploded and put a few holes invthe Gearbox!
Its been a fantastic journey and i would urge anyone to give it a go. It can be done much cheaper than i have done it.
Good work.We smashed through the projected budget and I eventually stopped counting. Lol.
But I now have a proper selection of service tools and a fighting chance wiyh knowledge gained to keep him running.
We built a Yaris rally car over the winter (build thread to come) and actually today just sold the Micra.
Two events into this season already. 4th place in the Scottish championship at Ingliston and he was running 4th at RM Condor last week when the Diff exploded and put a few holes invthe Gearbox!
Its been a fantastic journey and i would urge anyone to give it a go. It can be done much cheaper than i have done it.
Daniel
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