2019 Rallying Thread (WRC, ERC and all other)!
Discussion
chunder27 said:
Why would I want to organise rallies, I have no interest whatsoever in doing so.
It's not for everyone, that's for sure........you never know, you might enjoy it and be good at it.Are we contradicting ourselves here?:
chunder27 said:
I am aware that the ability for people to spectate is not to do with the MSA,
versuschunder27 said:
the MSA have basically banned or made it utterly pointless for specs to attend single venues, like airfields etc. That is clear
Anyway, to answer this:chunder27 said:
but they could make efforts to help surely?
I think Motorsport UK are heading in that direction, they now acknowledge that their role is to promote the sport as well as govern. It's summarised in this press release. https://www.motorsportuk.org/Motorsport-UK-the-new...
chunder27 said:
It's usually to do with insurance, lack of marshals and simply not wanting anyone there because basically it's a ball ache you could do without?
From events I'm aware of, it's a combination of all these. There is plenty to do just getting a viable event off the ground. But to be honest, there is very little immediate benefit to the organisers from the presence of spectators. The benefits are all long-term (e.g. getting more people into the sport, exposure for sponsors, boost for affected local businesses etc). It's pretty rare that any event income is derived from spectators. Where there is a ticket charge (e.g. MSV Circuit rallies) it generally goes to venue.Even so, organisers have to plan for safe spectating. Lucky there are plenty of volunteers doing that, to enable others to enjoy competing or spectating.........
chunder27 said:
I have advocated a pass system for years. Whereby fans can register, attend training courses, marshal days and be what most of us were, marshals passing by at times. It's still always hard to police an airfield, but this at least would allow those fans that want to attend rallies like that, safely, with the knowledge theya re at risk, the chance.
Didn't we show you in this thread, or maybe the last one, why this couldn't work?Pericoloso said:
Perhaps Corsica could replace Sweden as the annual snow rally.....
Was it Corsica that ran a few years ago and was WET beyond comprehension ?
2015 that was. Elfyn Evans outshone everyone other than JML and bagged 2nd place. That year it was run in October tho.Was it Corsica that ran a few years ago and was WET beyond comprehension ?
Meeke quickest on shakedown
One of the juniors had a big hit during shakedown!
chunder27 said:
Mull I would not expect to be herded.
There will be designated, planned and controlled spectator areas in places where large crowds are expected. Other places won’t be “advertised” as such but of course people know where to go as they have been, generally safely, for 50 years. Some dangerous areas will be cordoned off. I think it’s an inaccuracy to say that you’re not permitted to watch outside the “pens” on other rallies. You are of course not legally allowed to walk on the closed road or on private land without permission. But as long as you’re in a safe place, you’ll be fine. If you’re in a dangerous place you’ll be asked to move. If you don’t move, the stage may be cancelled. That’ll make you very unpopular.
The issue for popular closed roads and forests is that they have to plan for spectator access and parking. Parking on the verge of public roads is not really accepted nowadays, so designated and advertised spectator areas have to take that into account. Hence there were only a few areas advertised on eg Clacton and North West Stages.
Some councils (Aberdeenshire) also require your spectator area to have an event licence, which means toilets, security, paramedics, risk assessments etc.
Who’d want to be a rally organiser, eh?
RyanTank said:
My Corsica prediction Meeke, Ogier, Tänak. I think. I’ve changed that configuration about 4 times so I’m trying this one.
Ogier for the win, Tanak 2nd and Evans 3rd. Meeke will be on rally winning pace but something really unlucky will befall him and he’ll be 4th. Loeb 5th, Sordo 6th. Neuville retire with broken suspension, JML and Sunninen off but contiune with Rally 2. Lappi engine failure. 
Allyc85 said:
Brilliant day from Evans, carrying on his form from Mexico. I don't think he'll be able to maintain his lead over Tanak, but it is an event he has gone well on in the past.
Meeke back to his usual up and down self!
Enjoyed the order day highlights. Can’t belibeb what Meeke did, at least the organisers were sensible about it.Meeke back to his usual up and down self!
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