2019 Rallying Thread (WRC, ERC and all other)!

2019 Rallying Thread (WRC, ERC and all other)!

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epom

11,565 posts

162 months

Monday 24th June 2019
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Yep very sad news from Donegal. RIP Manus.

GravelBen

15,710 posts

231 months

Monday 24th June 2019
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Sad to hear, RIP frown

Better weekend here at Rally South Canterbury, over 200km of gravel stages in one day is good value. Nice to be out watching with my dad and brother on some of the roads I learnt to drive on too. Dominated by Hayden Paddon as expected (but you won't see him listed in championship results because he isn't contesting the title this year), here is an in-car of one stage with him:

https://www.facebook.com/haydenpaddonwrc/videos/47...

New co-driver in training was a bit hesitant at times in there, but she is young and it is a fair step up in pace from the Mk2 Escort she usually co-drives so I expect she will adjust well with a bit more time.

And some event highlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjpY0LT_Ook


Edited by GravelBen on Monday 24th June 11:43

thepawbroon

1,154 posts

185 months

Tuesday 25th June 2019
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Craig Breen & Paul Nagle have been announced as driving for Hyundai on Rally Finland!

Allyc85

7,225 posts

187 months

Tuesday 25th June 2019
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After the events of the weekend, it’s great to have some positive news for Irish rallying.

Big Robbo

319 posts

147 months

Tuesday 25th June 2019
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Hyundai playing the squad game. Their driver roster is getting larger by each event yet they let Paddon go..... strange buch these koreans

Pericoloso

44,044 posts

164 months

Tuesday 25th June 2019
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That is a strange decision.....confused

Is Paddon still on their books or completely out the door ?

Allyc85

7,225 posts

187 months

Tuesday 25th June 2019
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All the news reports on Hyundai's driver line up have stated that he isn't interested in one off drives, but from what he has tweeted today that might not have been the case!

I don't think there is much between Breen and Paddon Tbh and either would have been a good choice.

Edit: I've had a reply from Hayden's Twitter account, he says he was never offered the drive!!

Edited by Allyc85 on Tuesday 25th June 21:29

A FM Langheck

835 posts

130 months

Wednesday 26th June 2019
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Great news for Craig & Paul;

Sounds as though Hayden has been treated pretty shabbily, not a great reflection on the man management of Hyundai.
And, it seems that even in 2019, were you are from has a massive impact on whether you can get/ keep a drive. Shouldn't still be like this.
Coming from NZ hasn't stopped talents like Dixon, Bamber, Hartley and others. Maybe circuit racing is a bit more forward thinking than the smaller world of rallying.

thepawbroon

1,154 posts

185 months

Wednesday 26th June 2019
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A FM Langheck said:
Great news for Craig & Paul;

Sounds as though Hayden has been treated pretty shabbily, not a great reflection on the man management of Hyundai.
And, it seems that even in 2019, were you are from has a massive impact on whether you can get/ keep a drive. Shouldn't still be like this.
Coming from NZ hasn't stopped talents like Dixon, Bamber, Hartley and others. Maybe circuit racing is a bit more forward thinking than the smaller world of rallying.
I don't think there's very much to chose between Breen and Paddon, perhaps Paddon is as good as he's going to get, having had 3 more years in WRC than Breen,who might be still improving? Perhaps Hyundai know all they need to know about Paddon, and are testing Breen out before making driver choices for 2020?


Allyc85

7,225 posts

187 months

Wednesday 26th June 2019
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Rovanpera gets a full season in a Yaris for 2020! yikes

thepawbroon

1,154 posts

185 months

Wednesday 26th June 2019
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Allyc85 said:
Rovanpera gets a full season in a Yaris for 2020! yikes
Wow - can't deny that he has deserved it, he's been very good in WRC2 this year.

Latvala or Meeke making way for him?

rastapasta

1,866 posts

139 months

Thursday 27th June 2019
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A FM Langheck said:
Great news for Craig & Paul;

Sounds as though Hayden has been treated pretty shabbily, not a great reflection on the man management of Hyundai.
And, it seems that even in 2019, were you are from has a massive impact on whether you can get/ keep a drive. Shouldn't still be like this.
Coming from NZ hasn't stopped talents like Dixon, Bamber, Hartley and others. Maybe circuit racing is a bit more forward thinking than the smaller world of rallying.
Im not sure there has or have been too many more Irish WRC drivers as Kiwi's. If it comes down to car sales, from the sounds of it Paddon and Hyundai are joined at the hip domestically. Someone else here made the point that Paddon has been in the WRC alot longer than Breen maybe the thinking is that Paddon is as good as he's ever going to be. Either way this is going to be a big weekend for Breen.

Rovenpara to Toyota? Im guessing it will be Meeke getting the chop considering his age and the fact that he seems to have gone backwards after presumably been told to keep the panel beater bills to a minimum this year.

DelicaL400

516 posts

112 months

Thursday 27th June 2019
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rastapasta said:
Im guessing it will be Meeke getting the chop
Depends if Tanak goes back to M-Sport I suppose. Latvala's contract is up too I think?

Pericoloso

44,044 posts

164 months

Thursday 27th June 2019
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DelicaL400 said:
Depends if Tanak goes back to M-Sport.
Is that a possibility ?

It's like musical chairs.

df76

Original Poster:

3,641 posts

279 months

Thursday 27th June 2019
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Pericoloso said:
DelicaL400 said:
Depends if Tanak goes back to M-Sport.
Is that a possibility ?

It's like musical chairs.
And Toyota management has made it clear that they’re not happy with latvala or Meeke.. pressure on. Japanese driver coming in for a couple of WRC events.

Slippydiff

14,862 posts

224 months

Thursday 27th June 2019
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Pericoloso said:
Is that a possibility ?

It's like musical chairs.
Why would Tanak even contemplate moving back to MSport ?? confused

Slippydiff

14,862 posts

224 months

Thursday 27th June 2019
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thepawbroon said:
Allyc85 said:
Rovanpera gets a full season in a Yaris for 2020! yikes
Wow - can't deny that he has deserved it, he's been very good in WRC2 this year.

Latvala or Meeke making way for him?
In all fairness, Rovanpera has been mightily impressive.

Allyc85

7,225 posts

187 months

Thursday 27th June 2019
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Slippydiff said:
Why would Tanak even contemplate moving back to MSport ?? confused
Because the Yaris keeps on letting him down?

I was lucky enough to have a tour of the Toyota service area in Sardinia, and our guide admitted the car was designed for speed for outright speed, and they don’t carry spares to save weight!

sanf

673 posts

173 months

Thursday 27th June 2019
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df76 said:
And Toyota management has made it clear that they’re not happy with latvala or Meeke.. pressure on. Japanese driver coming in for a couple of WRC events.
It looks like Takamoto Katsuta will do 2-3 WRC events this year, plus Japan (which I think is a candidate event this year, ready for next year), and then potentially a full season in the WRC car next year, but run separate from the main team - as Hanninen was at the last event. So potentially 4 Yaris out on events next year.

I can't believe Tanak is really thinking about moving to M-Sport unless Ford have offered some serious reassurances about the future, M-Sport seem to be on a yearly existence, and especially as Tanak seems to be settled and going so well in the Toyota.

Apart from Ogier & Neuville (and Loeb) I think all other drivers have contracts up - but with Tanak being the main man the market could revolve around, him and could see loads of moves or none at all!! Hyundai are an example - rumours of Evans possibly joining them.....or they stay exactly the same!!

Looking forward to seeing Kalle Rovanperä in a Toyota - think it should be really interesting.

df76

Original Poster:

3,641 posts

279 months

Friday 28th June 2019
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Ypres rally starts this afternoon. Very good entry list, including Breen and neuville. Large historic entry also. I’ll make an effort to go next year.